... Seems reasonable, Jack. [Joe:] ... But I think Paul's theology, i.e. divine sonship (in a stronger sense implying adoption as "the chosen son") at the...
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Andrew Smith
asmith@...
Aug 10, 2000 5:00 pm
... This gives a nice context to #71, 71) Jesus said, "I shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to rebuild it." Jesus must have said it during a...
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odell mcguire
omcguire@...
Aug 10, 2000 6:34 pm
Dear Mike, Rick, Tim and other contributors to the House of 71 and Davies Point #3 threads: Kevin Johnson, also a member of this list, and I have been engaged...
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DaGoi@...
Aug 10, 2000 9:32 pm
In a message dated 8/9/0 9:43:50 AM, Odell McGuire wrote: << Because if, as some critics believe, a major point of his program in Acts is the reconciliation of...
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RSBrenchley@...
Aug 10, 2000 9:56 pm
Jack Kilmon writes: < The "Son of God" was very Jewish in origin. The "bareh d'alaha" <emerges from 2nd temple Daniel/Enochian subsets of Judaism and <can...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Aug 10, 2000 11:51 pm
... From: <RSBrenchley@...> To: <gthomas@egroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 2:56 PM Subject: [gthomas] Re: Early Christology ... have a ... the ...
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odell mcguire
omcguire@...
Aug 11, 2000 12:54 pm
... First--I agree completely. I should have expressed the point differently. Secondly-- Here I was not expressing my own view but what I imagined to be that ...
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tmwestbury@...
Aug 11, 2000 4:59 pm
Thanks very much Mike for the elucidation of the Temple history. It is fascinating and many of things mentioned in the NT can be seen in a new light with the...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 11, 2000 7:40 pm
... fabrication ... that ... But of course Crossan believes that Jesus *was* a peasant, so he would evidently not be among those regarding the term 'carpenter'...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 11, 2000 8:47 pm
Careful readers may have noticed that, altho recent discussions of the history of early Xianity may have brought us closer to understanding *some* Thomas...
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RSBrenchley@...
Aug 11, 2000 10:06 pm
Hi Jack. Thankyou very much for your post, which is really helpful. Where can I get hold of New Testament Abstracts 8 and a translation of the Testimonies of...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 12, 2000 12:46 pm
"Is circumcision beneficial to us?" ask the disciples/students in 53.1. To which J is made to respond in 53.2: "If it (lit., he) were beneficial, their father...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku@...
Aug 12, 2000 6:18 pm
... Yes, Mike, these are interesting. ... Yes, indeed this is what they imply. ... I doubt that this is so. See below. ... I wouldn't take them too seriously,...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Aug 13, 2000 2:25 am
I respond to the Mon, 07 Aug 2000 post by "Scott M. Williams": Scott, Well, at least you helped me clarify in my mind what Critical Realism is about. I have...
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Scott M. Williams
smatthew@...
Aug 13, 2000 8:13 am
... IF this is true about the list, I will defer my comments to another setting, but if it is not, then I will continue this thread until it has run its...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Aug 13, 2000 3:30 pm
In response to the Sun, 13 Aug 2000, post by "Scott M. Williams": Now you have introduced "New Historicism," which you describe (quoting Louis Montrose) as the...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 13, 2000 5:47 pm
... My analysis of Steve's "point #3" brought me to realize that beyond the particular weaknesses of his argument, there seems to be a general weakness in...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 14, 2000 3:22 am
... wanted to ... made ... So "the Hellenists" wanted to kill Saul even after his conversion, for having (years?) earlier had a significant role in Stephen's...
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joe lieb
joelieb@...
Aug 14, 2000 9:24 am
Joe Lieb wrote: <<Robert, the concept of 'the messiah' is Jewish in origin and the concept <<of 'the son of God' is Roman in origin. Christianity has combined...
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odell mcguire
omcguire@...
Aug 14, 2000 12:44 pm
... more important thing is to take into account what the Markians were ... You might be interested (and gratified) to know that the // in Ep. Barnabas ...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Aug 14, 2000 4:26 pm
... From: "joe lieb" <joelieb@...> To: <gthomas@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [gthomas] Early Christology ... two ...
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RSBrenchley@...
Aug 14, 2000 10:25 pm
Joe Lieb writes: << It appears that everyone on this list thinks that the 'son of God' concept <arose entirely from the Jewish tradition with virtually no...
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Jim Bauer
jbauer@...
Aug 14, 2000 11:02 pm
Elaine Pagel's wrote a book called _The Origins of Satan_. I do not have the book or have read it but she's a pretty erudite scholar so her opinion should be...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku@...
Aug 15, 2000 12:26 am
Mike, I posted a summary of Loisy's views because they seemed relevant to the discussion in progress. Perhaps I did not summarise his views adequately or...
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Steve Allison
dermarc@...
Aug 15, 2000 1:43 am
... One of the Nag Hammadi texts, the Apochryphon of John, actually cites the book of Zoroaster as if its an authoritative source. It is in a section ...
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David C. Hindley
dhindley@...
Aug 15, 2000 2:39 am
... cites the book of Zoroaster as if its an authoritative source. It is in a section discussing the names of angels. Even though Apoch John is a third...
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Michael Grondin
mgrondin@...
Aug 15, 2000 12:55 pm
... True enough, my reply went in several directions at once, and as I said at the time, it wasn't particularly well-organized. But these issues are all ...
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odell mcguire
omcguire@...
Aug 15, 2000 2:30 pm
... having (years?) earlier had a significant role in Stephen's execution and the driving of the others (including Philip) out of Jerusalem. And yet after he...
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Rick Hubbard
rhubbard@...
Aug 15, 2000 4:02 pm
Y. Kuchinsky wrote the following on 14 Aug 2000: "I don't really know what the 'factions view' is, or on what it is based, so I cannot comment on this." The...
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Jacob Knee
jknee@...
Aug 15, 2000 5:32 pm
I wonder if anyone is willing to conjecture the size of the 'christian' community at say, 10, 20 and 30 years after the death of Jesus. (cf the work of Rodney...
