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#4 From: "jhorstmn" <jenny@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:26 am
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Hi List members,
  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke with
Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding other
people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town last
weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.

I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire about
the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class. They
are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant shoot
at Gary's this fall?
Jenny

#5 From: "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker" <zwicker@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:31 am
Subject: Placer not listening! jenniferzwicker
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Okay, a little longer note. Two nights ago, I had Placer out for a run, she found a couple grouse and a lovely pond to get wet and mucky. About an hour after our run, I called her in to the van to go home. She wouldn't come, she took off!! She's never done that before! I knew she would start eventually. I just started up the van and started to drive slowly out of the gravel pit. (Gravel pits here always have great trails, good grouse cover and small ponds in the back). She came out of the bush and then came when I called her.

Now I'm wondering if some formal training is in order. Perhaps some heel work and a SLOW start to FF. Just work on the hold for now. Obviously some formalized work on "come" with the new whistle Jenny gave me, thank you again Jenny. I don't think I want to introduce the e-collar yet. I feel Placer is still too young for that and I don't feel confident of myself yet either. I would like to see a couple training videos and some specifically on e-collar training before I take the plunge. As a sometime auto mechanic, I feel a lot better if a tool is in the tool box and never needed than needing it and not having it. Makes for a multi-thousand dollar tool chest but they ARE fun toys. LOL But using it properly is very important.

Placer has started to really attack the water. She'll jump right in then spin around and try to bite the splashes she makes. It appears as though the wonderful Alaskan weekend has really boosted her confidence, now I need to keep it biddable confidence without fostering dependence, a lovely small line to walk. I think, for myself, I would prefer to keep her cooperation high over anything else. A slow, low pressure curriculum with a lot of bonding may be the ticket?

Good luck all and a very heartfelt congratulations to all Utility prizes, and Michael, that dog is perfect no matter what he does in front of strangers. I wish I could've seen how its supposed to be done. I hope your breed test goes outstanding Jenny. Jeff and Judy, think about the Invitational, a northern upstart is just what they need down there. I sometimes dream of having my pup that high but I will be very happy to have a lot of bird to eat and help a few people find their lost moose. A dog great with kids, protective of the house and dribbles the water all over the floor is just what I always wanted, I just didn't know I needed it.

Again Jenny, thank you for having us during a stressful time and give me warning if and when you're coming over. I had given some moose to a couple friends last year and I believe they still have some, I'll grab some for a few dinners.

Jen and Placer

#6 From: Sher Schwartz <goldeneye@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! redfor1518
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Jen:
What you have experienced with Placer we experienced with darling Ouzel at
12 to 14 weeks. As a matter of fact we have had continual problems with
Ouzel wanting to get in the car -- out of the car, and with the command
come. The day before we came to the test, she ran away from Bruce in the
marina parking lot right as he stooped down to pick her up to put her into
the kennel. She was gone for 10 minutes. he was very upset, and I heard a
lot of " a lab would never do that."

You all don't know this, but we are really fortunate Ouzel did as well as
she did at the test, because I've heard a lot of "a lab would never do
that" these past ten weeks.  It's been a huge adjustment for Bruce to go
from 20 years of field trial labs to a new animal all together.
Thankfully, she is slowly working her way into his heart and his level of
respect.

That said.

I am working with a check cord. I put it on her and let her drag it around
in the yard before we take our morning hikes, which involve a car ride.
Then I call come, toot the whistle, and if she just looks at me (which
happens 50 % of the time) I lead her in.  We are now hiking trailing the
check cord, and I frequently blow the whistle for sit (we have chosen to
teach sit) and I also call her to come. I am working on the check cord when
she retrieves dummies in the field, because she has been refusing to bring
the dummy back to us. We are seeing some improvement.

ouzel is smart and talented and very extroverted and SUPER confident. We
have our hands and our brains full.yesterday she cracked us up by grabbing
her lead, running up onto the whoah table and standing at a perfect whoah!
All by herself without a command.  yes, we've got a lot to do to stay ahead
with this one.

have you tried the check cord?

Sher

#7 From: zwicker@...
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! jenniferzwicker
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> I have used the CC quite often but a 30 foot trailing CC does no good
when she's 100 yards out. I still want her to get out there and learn
how to pin those birds. That night she did something that gives me hope.
A grouse was stirring in the bush next to the trail we were walking.
Placer ran hard down the trail then jumped into the bush so that the
bird was between me and Placer. She pushed the bird into me then pointed
until it busted. She should figure out sometime just how much pressure
she can put on a bird; I can't teach her that. I only want to shoot a
bird when she handles it well. If I only get 5 birds this season, its 2
more than I had last year.
I guess I'll have to put the CC on her 10 minutes or so before we actually
head for the van and I'll keep a hold of it. I've just been worried about
real formal training making her too close and dependent.
>
>
>
> Jen:
> What you have experienced with Placer we experienced with darling Ouzel at
> 12 to 14 weeks. As a matter of fact we have had continual problems with
> Ouzel wanting to get in the car -- out of the car, and with the command
> come. The day before we came to the test, she ran away from Bruce in the
> marina parking lot right as he stooped down to pick her up to put her into
> the kennel. She was gone for 10 minutes. he was very upset, and I heard a
> lot of " a lab would never do that."
>
> You all don't know this, but we are really fortunate Ouzel did as well as
> she did at the test, because I've heard a lot of "a lab would never
> do
> that" these past ten weeks.  It's been a huge adjustment for Bruce to
> go
> from 20 years of field trial labs to a new animal all together.
> Thankfully, she is slowly working her way into his heart and his level of
> respect.
>
> That said.
>
> I am working with a check cord. I put it on her and let her drag it around
> in the yard before we take our morning hikes, which involve a car ride.
> Then I call come, toot the whistle, and if she just looks at me (which
> happens 50 % of the time) I lead her in.  We are now hiking trailing the
> check cord, and I frequently blow the whistle for sit (we have chosen to
> teach sit) and I also call her to come. I am working on the check cord
> when
> she retrieves dummies in the field, because she has been refusing to bring
> the dummy back to us. We are seeing some improvement.
>
> ouzel is smart and talented and very extroverted and SUPER confident. We
> have our hands and our brains full.yesterday she cracked us up by grabbing
> her lead, running up onto the whoah table and standing at a perfect whoah!
> All by herself without a command.  yes, we've got a lot to do to stay
> ahead
> with this one.
>
> have you tried the check cord?
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> Sher
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Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! jenniferzwicker
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> I have used the CC quite often but a 30 foot trailing CC does no good
when she's 100 yards out. I still want her to get out there and learn
how to pin those birds. That night she did something that gives me hope.
A grouse was stirring in the bush next to the trail we were walking.
Placer ran hard down the trail then jumped into the bush so that the
bird was between me and Placer. She pushed the bird into me then pointed
until it busted. She should figure out sometime just how much pressure
she can put on a bird; I can't teach her that. I only want to shoot a
bird when she handles it well. If I only get 5 birds this season, its 2
more than I had last year.
I guess I'll have to put the CC on her 10 minutes or so before we actually
head for the van and I'll keep a hold of it. I've just been worried about
real formal training making her too close and dependent.
>
>
>
> Jen:
> What you have experienced with Placer we experienced with darling Ouzel at
> 12 to 14 weeks. As a matter of fact we have had continual problems with
> Ouzel wanting to get in the car -- out of the car, and with the command
> come. The day before we came to the test, she ran away from Bruce in the
> marina parking lot right as he stooped down to pick her up to put her into
> the kennel. She was gone for 10 minutes. he was very upset, and I heard a
> lot of " a lab would never do that."
>
> You all don't know this, but we are really fortunate Ouzel did as well as
> she did at the test, because I've heard a lot of "a lab would never
> do
> that" these past ten weeks.  It's been a huge adjustment for Bruce to
> go
> from 20 years of field trial labs to a new animal all together.
> Thankfully, she is slowly working her way into his heart and his level of
> respect.
>
> That said.
>
> I am working with a check cord. I put it on her and let her drag it around
> in the yard before we take our morning hikes, which involve a car ride.
> Then I call come, toot the whistle, and if she just looks at me (which
> happens 50 % of the time) I lead her in.  We are now hiking trailing the
> check cord, and I frequently blow the whistle for sit (we have chosen to
> teach sit) and I also call her to come. I am working on the check cord
> when
> she retrieves dummies in the field, because she has been refusing to bring
> the dummy back to us. We are seeing some improvement.
>
> ouzel is smart and talented and very extroverted and SUPER confident. We
> have our hands and our brains full.yesterday she cracked us up by grabbing
> her lead, running up onto the whoah table and standing at a perfect whoah!
> All by herself without a command.  yes, we've got a lot to do to stay
> ahead
> with this one.
>
> have you tried the check cord?
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> Sher
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#9 From: "hgoodnight" <hgoodnight@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:35 pm
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Just had J�ger back on the check cord for the "come" command again.
seems like if you can't reenforce your command they pick up on it
quick! A few times on the cord then he is good for a week or two then
he gets lazy. I also found he is very responsive if I put a piece of
rope about a foot long on him. I would only do this where it can not
get hung up some where though. Well the hunt is on so I have to go!
Bud

#10 From: Sher Schwartz <goldeneye@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! redfor1518
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Jen -- maybe the check cord work will tune her up, so that she will respond
better out. But, I am NO epxert.Perhaps some of the other members can give
you advice.  Good luck, Sher

>> I have used the CC quite often but a 30 foot trailing CC does no good
>when she's 100 yards out. I still want her to get out there and learn
>how to pin those birds. That night she did something that gives me hope.
>A grouse was stirring in the bush next to the trail we were walking.
>Placer ran hard down the trail then jumped into the bush so that the
>bird was between me and Placer. She pushed the bird into me then pointed
>until it busted. She should figure out sometime just how much pressure
>she can put on a bird; I can't teach her that. I only want to shoot a
>bird when she handles it well. If I only get 5 birds this season, its 2
>more than I had last year.
>I guess I'll have to put the CC on her 10 minutes or so before we actually
>head for the van and I'll keep a hold of it. I've just been worried about
>real formal training making her too close and dependent.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jen:
>> What you have experienced with Placer we experienced with darling Ouzel at
>> 12 to 14 weeks. As a matter of fact we have had continual problems with
>> Ouzel wanting to get in the car -- out of the car, and with the command
>> come. The day before we came to the test, she ran away from Bruce in the
>> marina parking lot right as he stooped down to pick her up to put her into
>> the kennel. She was gone for 10 minutes. he was very upset, and I heard a
>> lot of " a lab would never do that."
>>
>> You all don't know this, but we are really fortunate Ouzel did as well as
>> she did at the test, because I've heard a lot of "a lab would never
>> do
>> that" these past ten weeks.  It's been a huge adjustment for Bruce to
>> go
>> from 20 years of field trial labs to a new animal all together.
>> Thankfully, she is slowly working her way into his heart and his level of
>> respect.
>>
>> That said.
>>
>> I am working with a check cord. I put it on her and let her drag it around
>> in the yard before we take our morning hikes, which involve a car ride.
>> Then I call come, toot the whistle, and if she just looks at me (which
>> happens 50 % of the time) I lead her in.  We are now hiking trailing the
>> check cord, and I frequently blow the whistle for sit (we have chosen to
>> teach sit) and I also call her to come. I am working on the check cord
>> when
>> she retrieves dummies in the field, because she has been refusing to bring
>> the dummy back to us. We are seeing some improvement.
>>
>> ouzel is smart and talented and very extroverted and SUPER confident. We
>> have our hands and our brains full.yesterday she cracked us up by grabbing
>> her lead, running up onto the whoah table and standing at a perfect whoah!
>> All by herself without a command.  yes, we've got a lot to do to stay
>> ahead
>> with this one.
>>
>> have you tried the check cord?
>>
>> Sher
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#11 From: "Jane Nelson" <janenelson71@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! janenelson71
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We had the same problem with Sadie, and we tried EVERYTHING.  It got so that her
safety was at risk.  One time she didn't come when she was running after a car,
another when she saw a moose .. so we finally went to a shock collar, but I must
emphasize that she is the type of dog that needed it, and we didn't get one
until she
was a year old.  I don't know the recommended age is.
Other methods we heard, besides the checkcord, was to take a leash and cut it to
about a foot, so it's not dragging behind, but they still think they could be
corrected
with it.  Now that didn't work for us either, but it was just something else one
of our
obedience trainers said has worked in the past.

#12 From: "Sher" <goldeneye@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:49 pm
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If any of you experience a double post when you first post to this
list -- it happens on yahoo groups from time to time. We don't know
why, but it should stop shortly.

A double post is where you post a message and it shows up in duplicate
to the group.

Sher

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#13 From: Sher Schwartz <goldeneye@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Placer not listening! redfor1518
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Jane:
Does she "come" reliably now after using the shock collar? Can you depend
on her? How old is she? Sher


>We had the same problem with Sadie, and we tried EVERYTHING.  It got so
>that her
>safety was at risk.  One time she didn't come when she was running after a
>car,
>another when she saw a moose .. so we finally went to a shock collar, but
>I must
>emphasize that she is the type of dog that needed it, and we didn't get
>one until she
>was a year old.  I don't know the recommended age is.
>Other methods we heard, besides the checkcord, was to take a leash and cut
>it to
>about a foot, so it's not dragging behind, but they still think they could
>be corrected
>with it.  Now that didn't work for us either, but it was just something
>else one of our
>obedience trainers said has worked in the past.
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#14 From: "Steve Graham" <sdgraham@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:40 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Placer not listening! sdgrahamap
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Remember that back in the old days, the means of correcting a dog was by dusting it off with a shotshell loaded with rice and if it was too far off, birdshot was used.

Electronic collars are a vast improvement.

One professional trainer here starts with pups with a collars as soon as they can comfortably carry it. He's very gentle with it, but the dogs never learn the fun of running off to the tune of their frantic handler helplessly shouting "here, here."

Steve Graham

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Jane: Does she "come" reliably now after using the shock collar? Can you depend on her? How old is she? Sher >We had the same problem with Sadie, and we tried EVERYTHING. It got so >that her >safety was at risk. One time she didn't come when she was running after a >car, >another when she saw a moose .. so we finally went to a shock collar, but >I must >emphasize that she is the type of dog that needed it, and we didn't get >one until she >was a year old. I don't know the recommended age is. >Other methods we heard, besides the checkcord, was to take a leash and cut >it to >about a foot, so it's not dragging behind, but they still think they could >be corrected >with it. Now that didn't work for us either, but it was just something >else one of our >obedience trainers said has worked in the past. > > > >Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western Canada > > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ><http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129p2ap3p/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group >s/S=1707421145:HM/EXP=1092948348/A=2319498/R=0/SIG=11thfntfp/*http://www.netflix >.com/Default?mqso=60185352&partid=5285298> > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlandnavhda/>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/g >reatlandnavhda/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ><mailto:greatlandnavhda-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe>greatla >ndnavhda-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the ><http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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#15 From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:18 pm
Subject: Re: Placer not listening! rkhull2k
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Jen,
    At this age, Placer will test you at frequent opportunities, just
like kids will. Not coming when called is probably the most common
form of adolescent defiance. The trick is to anticipate the
behavior, minimize the opportunities for her to disobey, and
reinforce the behavior you want to see.
    It only takes one or two violations of the rule "Never give a dog
a command you aren't prepared to enforce" to make your dog look
forward to the fun of being called and chased.
    I have found it most effective to look for the first slight
indications of hesitation by your dog to respond to a "come"
command, then set them up for retraining. If Bramble looks at me for
a couple of seconds before heading in my direction, I'll put him on
a 50-ft check cord and give him a good half dozen repetitions in
series. Whoa him, walk to the end of the CC, give him a "come"
command, correct him briskly with the CC if the response isn't
instantaneous, praise him, whoa him again, walk to the end of the
CC, repeat, repeat.
     If he ever "runs big" I resist the urge to call him at all, or
maybe only once. I then either walk away until he follows or I find
a way to physically connect and then immediately launch into a
lesson with the CC.
    The training techniques you mention are all useful and necessary,
but they may not directly address the issue of coming when called.
Heeling, force fetching and e-collars all have their place, and the
appropriate time and age for introduction can vary.
    Pro trainers are all over the map with advice on how to use e-
collars (and whether to use them). Most will agree that the best use
of one is to reinforce a skill that has already been taught by other
means. Very few will advise using an e-collar to teach a new skill
(other than the e-collar manufacturers).
    I doubt if there are any of us who haven't dealt with this
problem, so you are likely to get many other suggestions for dealing
with a consistently faithful pup who suddenly gives you a quick look
with one eyebrow raised, sees an opportunity and decides to head for
the hills.
    Best of luck,
      Roger

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> Okay, a little longer note. Two nights ago, I had Placer out for a
run, she found a couple grouse and a lovely pond to get wet and
mucky. About an hour after our run, I called her in to the van to go
home. She wouldn't come, she took off!! She's never done that
before! I knew she would start eventually. I just started up the van
and started to drive slowly out of the gravel pit. (Gravel pits here
always have great trails, good grouse cover and small ponds in the
back). She came out of the bush and then came when I called her.
>
> Now I'm wondering if some formal training is in order. Perhaps
some heel work and a SLOW start to FF. Just work on the hold for
now. Obviously some formalized work on "come" with the new whistle
Jenny gave me, thank you again Jenny. I don't think I want to
introduce the e-collar yet. I feel Placer is still too young for
that and I don't feel confident of myself yet either. I would like
to see a couple training videos and some specifically on e-collar
training before I take the plunge. As a sometime auto mechanic, I
feel a lot better if a tool is in the tool box and never needed than
needing it and not having it. Makes for a multi-thousand dollar tool
chest but they ARE fun toys. LOL But using it properly is very
important.
>
> Placer has started to really attack the water. She'll jump right
in then spin around and try to bite the splashes she makes. It
appears as though the wonderful Alaskan weekend has really boosted
her confidence, now I need to keep it biddable confidence without
fostering dependence, a lovely small line to walk. I think, for
myself, I would prefer to keep her cooperation high over anything
else. A slow, low pressure curriculum with a lot of bonding may be
the ticket?
>
> Good luck all and a very heartfelt congratulations to all Utility
prizes, and Michael, that dog is perfect no matter what he does in
front of strangers. I wish I could've seen how its supposed to be
done. I hope your breed test goes outstanding Jenny. Jeff and Judy,
think about the Invitational, a northern upstart is just what they
need down there. I sometimes dream of having my pup that high but I
will be very happy to have a lot of bird to eat and help a few
people find their lost moose. A dog great with kids, protective of
the house and dribbles the water all over the floor is just what I
always wanted, I just didn't know I needed it.
>
> Again Jenny, thank you for having us during a stressful time and
give me warning if and when you're coming over. I had given some
moose to a couple friends last year and I believe they still have
some, I'll grab some for a few dinners.
>
> Jen and Placer

#16 From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
Date: Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:24 pm
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Jenny,
    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
Any thoughts on dates?
    Thanks,
      Roger

--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
wrote:
> Hi List members,
>  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
with
> Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
other
> people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
last
> weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
>
> I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
about
> the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
They
> are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
shoot
> at Gary's this fall?
> Jenny

#17 From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
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Jen,
    Placer is plenty old enough to start table training. Doing that
doesn't necessarily imply starting force fetching, but I certainly
would not hesitate to start working on "whoa", heeling on and off
the table, and sit-stay (if you choose to teach that).
    Roger


--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker"
<zwicker@y...> wrote:
> This can be much easier!!
>
> Now that people more experienced than I, have seen Placer I am
wondering just when to start training on the table. I will soon be
working only three days a week. Sept 1 is 15 days away. I do plan to
take her out often. I hope we can shoot a couple birds over a good
point.
> Just a quick note while banking and getting kids ready for bed,
school has started today so bedtime is NOT sunset! LOL
> Jen

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> Good, hubby has a project this weekend! LOL I'm working too much with
the boss gone to Ontario
>
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>
> Jen,
>    Placer is plenty old enough to start table training. Doing that
> doesn't necessarily imply starting force fetching, but I certainly
> would not hesitate to start working on "whoa", heeling on and
> off
> the table, and sit-stay (if you choose to teach that).
>    Roger
>
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer and Loren
> Zwicker"
>>zwicker@y...< wrote:
> < This can be much easier!!
> <
> < Now that people more experienced than I, have seen Placer I am
> wondering just when to start training on the table. I will soon be
> working only three days a week. Sept 1 is 15 days away. I do plan to
> take her out often. I hope we can shoot a couple birds over a good
> point.
> < Just a quick note while banking and getting kids ready for bed,
> school has started today so bedtime is NOT sunset! LOL
> < Jen
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She is 26 months now.  She comes quite reliably, yesterday she was chasing ducks
and came immediately.  But you need to use only the command "COME" not come
here, or anything else.
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> Jane:
> Does she "come" reliably now after using the shock collar? Can you depend
> on her? How old is she? Sher
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> >We had the same problem with Sadie, and we tried EVERYTHING.  It got so
> >that her
> >safety was at risk.  One time she didn't come when she was running after a
> >car,
> >another when she saw a moose .. so we finally went to a shock collar, but
> >I must
> >emphasize that she is the type of dog that needed it, and we didn't get
> >one until she
> >was a year old.  I don't know the recommended age is.
> >Other methods we heard, besides the checkcord, was to take a leash and cut
> >it to
> >about a foot, so it's not dragging behind, but they still think they could
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#20 From: "Jane Nelson" <janenelson71@...>
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I also want to add, that we did try EVERYTHING first, and she was good at
coming, say
90% of the time, but we had enough instances with her that she needed that
additional reinforcement to ensure her safety.  And I agree with Roger, that the
skill/
command should be introduced 1st without the e-collar collar.  It shouldn't be
used
as a short-cut. And I want her to obey even if she doesn't have the e-collar on,
which
she is doing. (Ok, I'd better be quiet, because she will probably prove me
wrong!)
-jane

#21 From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:52 am
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Wow I've been away from my computer! You are doing great helping each other
:^)  I would like to invite someone to join our list. Cj Walton, he has
written articles on  http://www.trader.co.nz/versatiledogs/page1.htm
  and this article http://www.algonet.se/~rospigan/r.scent.pointing.htm
He might accept the invitation, look at his articles an let me know if you'd
like
to discuss some of these questions with him. (He is a NAVHDA judge) maybe
there are some others we could invite to? Jenny
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas


> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> >  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
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#22 From: "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker" <zwicker@...>
Date: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:16 pm
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Hi Bud!

How's the salmon running? I figure I have it pretty good here but you guys.....have heaven on earth, I'm only in paradise. That four letter word again, but at least I love my job! LOL

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To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:35 PM

Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Hey Im here!

Just had J�ger back on the check cord for the "come" command again. seems like if you can't reenforce your command they pick up on it quick! A few times on the cord then he is good for a week or two then he gets lazy. I also found he is very responsive if I put a piece of rope about a foot long on him. I would only do this where it can not get hung up some where though. Well the hunt is on so I have to go! Bud

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#23 From: "Harry Goodnight" <hgoodnight@...>
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Easy limits on the silvers every day! Although I am shifting to hunting so I think last night was the last day of fishing for me this year........ok I might fish during the day in between hunts. I am heading out to camp to night for the opener tomorrow. I hope you all are getting out. I am still in MANIC mode till the snow flies so I'll talk to you next week let you know how I did!

Bud

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>Reply-To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com

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>Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Hey Im here!

>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:16:20 -0700

>Hi Bud!

>How's the salmon running? I figure I have it pretty good here but you guys.....have heaven on earth, I'm only in paradise. That four letter word again, but at least I love my job! LOL

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: hgoodnight

> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:35 PM

> Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Hey Im here!

> Just had J�ger back on the check cord for the "come" command again.

> seems like if you can't reenforce your command they pick up on it

> quick! A few times on the cord then he is good for a week or two then

> he gets lazy. I also found he is very responsive if I put a piece of

> rope about a foot long on him. I would only do this where it can not

> get hung up some where though. Well the hunt is on so I have to go!

> Bud

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#24 From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
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Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas


> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> >  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
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Canada
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>
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#25 From: "Keith Woodworth" <Woodwor@...>
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:03 am
Subject: RE: Re: Ideas Woodwor@...
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I'm interested.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenny Horstman [mailto:jenny@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:39 AM
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas

Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas


> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> >  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
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Canada
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>





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#26 From: "Sandidge, Jason M" <jsandidge@...>
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:15 pm
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Greetings Everybody,

Just wanted to express my interest in the dog training course and the pheasant
shoot.  I also wanted to pick the groups brain for a good place to hunt
ptarmigan.  I would really like to find some places nearby with out driving all
the way to Paxon.  Any suggestions out there?

//Jason Sandidge

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       2. Re: Hey Im here!
            From: "Harry Goodnight" <hgoodnight@...>
       3. Re: Re: Ideas
            From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
       4. RE: Re: Ideas
            From: "Keith Woodworth" <Woodwor@...>


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    Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:16:20 -0700
    From: "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker" <zwicker@...>
Subject: Re: Hey Im here!

Hi Bud!
How's the salmon running? I figure I have it pretty good here but you
guys.....have heaven on earth, I'm only in paradise. That four letter word
again, but at least I love my job! LOL
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: hgoodnight
   To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:35 PM
   Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Hey Im here!


   Just had J�ger back on the check cord for the "come" command again.
   seems like if you can't reenforce your command they pick up on it
   quick! A few times on the cord then he is good for a week or two then
   he gets lazy. I also found he is very responsive if I put a piece of
   rope about a foot long on him. I would only do this where it can not
   get hung up some where though. Well the hunt is on so I have to go!
   Bud



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    From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Ideas

Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas


> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> >  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
Canada
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>
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Message: 4
    Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:03:31 -0800
    From: "Keith Woodworth" <Woodwor@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Ideas

I'm interested.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenny Horstman [mailto:jenny@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:39 AM
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas

Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas


> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> >  Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
Canada
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>





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#27 From: Roger Hull <rhull@...>
Date: Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:50 pm
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Jason,

�� Try the Petersville Road, at the far end near the mine, or Turnagain Pass just beyond the rest area at the top. Also, with enough people to fill a charter flight, you can find ptarmigan in lots of areas you can get to only by airplane where there is water and cover. Anyplace that is nearby and readily accessible by paved road gets hunted out quickly.

�� We'll let everyone know when we set up the pheasant shoot.

�� Roger

��

From: Sandidge, Jason M [mailto:jsandidge@...]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:16 PM
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [greatlandnavhda] Digest Number 1

Greetings Everybody,

Just wanted to express my interest in the dog training course and the pheasant shoot. I also wanted to pick the groups brain for a good place to hunt ptarmigan. I would really like to find some places nearby with out driving all the way to Paxon. Any suggestions out there?

//Jason Sandidge

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      1. Re: Hey Im here!
           From: "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker" <zwicker@...>
      2. Re: Hey Im here!
           From: "Harry Goodnight" <hgoodnight@...>
      3. Re: Re: Ideas
           From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
      4. RE: Re: Ideas
           From: "Keith Woodworth" <Woodwor@...>

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Message: 1
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:16:20 -0700
   From: "Jennifer and Loren Zwicker" <zwicker@...>
Subject: Re: Hey Im here!

Hi Bud!
How's the salmon running? I figure I have it pretty good here but you guys.....have heaven on earth, I'm only in paradise. That four letter word again, but at least I love my job! LOL
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From: hgoodnight
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:35 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Hey Im here!

Just had J�ger back on the check cord for the "come" command again.
seems like if you can't reenforce your command they pick up on it
quick! A few times on the cord then he is good for a week or two then
he gets lazy. I also found he is very responsive if I put a piece of
rope about a foot long on him. I would only do this where it can not
get hung up some where though. Well the hunt is on so I have to go!
Bud

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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:28:37 -0800
   From: "Harry Goodnight" <hgoodnight@...>
Subject: Re: Hey Im here!

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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:39:18 -0800
   From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Ideas

Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas

> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> > Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
Canada
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:03:31 -0800
   From: "Keith Woodworth" <Woodwor@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Ideas

I'm interested.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jenny Horstman [mailto:jenny@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:39 AM
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas

Hi Roger,
How about a pheasant shoot anytime after Oct. 10th? I'm pretty sure ABDA is
having one in Sept. Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hull" <rhull@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Ideas

> Jenny,
>    I would be VERY interested in a fun pheasant shoot, even several
> of them, at Falcon Ridge. I was planning to do some on my own, but
> it would be a lot better with several people and more than one dog.
> Any thoughts on dates?
>    Thanks,
>      Roger
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi List members,
> > Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke
> with
> > Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old
> > drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding
> other
> > people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town
> last
> > weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test.
> >
> > I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire
> about
> > the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class.
> They
> > are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be
> > better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will
> > charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone
> > interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November?
> > Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant
> shoot
> > at Gary's this fall?
> > Jenny
>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
Canada
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
Canada
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#28 From: Brennerr <brennerr@...>
Date: Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:18 am
Subject: Re: Ideas brennerr50
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I think a Gun Dog training class would be a great thing to do with the dogs during the winter-time if they were on the weekend. I know that for me, living in Anchorage, it's rather hard to get home from work pack up the dogs and drive out toward Wasilla on a weekday evening. I would definitely support it for a weekend session.

Rita

Greg Boyd, Rita Brenner
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From: jhorstmn

To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:26 PM

Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Ideas

Hi List members, Well this should be a really good way to communicate! I spoke with Rita Brenner (Greatland member) today, she has a 5 month old drahthaar, lives in Anchorage, and she's interested in finding other people to train with in the Anchorage area. She was out of town last weekend so she missed the Handler Clinic and Test. I went to the Cook Inlet Kennel Club meeting tonite to inquire about the use of their building for a winter Gun Dog training class. They are looking to rent a new building near Trunk road which would be better since the building they rent now is in Big Lake. They will charge clubs 20.00 a hour for the use of the building. Is anyone interested in starting a Gun Dog obedience class in November? Possibly in Anchorage? Any chance we could have a fun pheasant shoot at Gary's this fall? Jenny

Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western Canada