Thanks to everyone for the info. The consensus seems to be there is
no need to start an interior chapter, but there appears to be
opportunities for interior folks to get together to train. I will
plan on contacting several of you this spring to get together. In
the meantime, if anyone else would like to test a pup please express
your interest here or to Roger Hull. Who knows, maybe we can come
up with 15 dogs this year or next.
Tom
--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, cheryl cavota
<snowydiamonds@...> wrote:
>
> BTW, John, did you see the pic I posted of Britta, my pup's "Aunt"
in The Netherlands? She is 10 years old now, and when I arrived
there to pick up Boris I was warned she is all business and not to
take Boris outside in the middle of the night as she would be loose
in the garage and fenced yard. She sniffed out the wolf ruff from
my parka I had hidden deep in a bag the first night, left it in the
middle of the kitchen floor and we were immediate friends. My
breeders were surprised;) European dogs are very well mannered in
public but not as friendly as most of our pets over all,
more serious, hunting dogs foremost.
>
> There are some weimaraners scattered from the Fairbanks area, most
if not all are treated more as lap dogs or poodles, the owner of the
bitch who was selling pups two years ago said his was for his wife
to sit and paint her nails...I tried to get them interested in
training as they were bred for hunting...Thankfully I haven't seen
any pups from those pups advertised for sale, so far. I am in favor
of responsible breeding, to be bred for the purpose the breed was
meant for. I cannot breed my dog nor entice others to want to breed
his line unless I prove he is worthy. Cheryl
>
> --- On Thu, 10/16/08, John Haddix <jhaddix@...> wrote:
>
> From: John Haddix <jhaddix@...>
> Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 8:33 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheryl and Tom
> I have a 1.5 year old Deutch Drahthaar. I was the vice president
for the group in Anchorage but now live in interior Alaska. I am in
Delta Junction monday through Friday and Fairganks on weekends.
During the spring and fall I work with my dog several times a week
and would love to meet up with other versatile dog owners to train.
Last year I trained with the interior Alaska Gun Dog Association, in
Fairbanks, which is a retriever group, on weekends, and during the
week I trained with spaniel folks in Delta Junction. There was also
the occasional short hair owner and Drahthaar owner that I trained
with. The NAVHDA group in Anchorage lost a lot of momentum because
we could not get folks involved in training days. We were often
lucky to get one person to show up for a training day. As far as
testing we found that we needed at least 15 dogs to test to be able
to make ends meet (paying for judges to travel from the lower 48
ect). We n ever had
> 15 dogs at a test so one of the officers paid the additional
costs out of his pocket. We tried a few things to generate funds to
pay for tests but were not able to get folks to show up. The few
training days that i set up out at Falcon Ridge on Pt McKinzie I had
very low or no attendance at all. I think that at this time it
would not be advisable to start another club in Fairbanks. There is
cost for insurance, you have to have enough officers to meet the
minimum offices, and i forget what else. Having said that though,
we could get together and do some trining sessions in Interior under
the umbrella of the NAVHDA group in Anchorage. If there is enough
interest we may even be able to generate some revenue and have a
test in Alaska. Just because the group is based out of Anchorage it
does not mean that tests have to be conducted there.
> John Haddix
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cheryl cavota <snowydiamonds@ yahoo.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:29 pm
> Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
> To: greatlandnavhda@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my
> > (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner
> > (neutered/unapprove d product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad"
> > and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the
> > website never has updated information and there are never
> > responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us
> > scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs
hunt
> > and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my
Long
> > Hair weim.
> >
> > I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is
> > hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is
an
> > International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire
is
> > a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I
admit
> > I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish
> > this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn
others
> > now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in
> > person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van
> > Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
> > To: greatlandnavhda@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started.
It's
> > going well.
> > I am curious if there would be any interest among members who
live
> > closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be
> > worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's
> > needs?
> > Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together
with
> > you
> > folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
There
are a few articles on the Greatland Chapter web site related to training, mostly
on what to expect in a test and some essentials on how to prepare for them.
However, there really is no substitute for a good hands-on clinic or one-on-one
session with an experienced handler when you’re trying to learn things
like how to force fetch a dog or encouraging a pup to cast properly during a
search.
We
really do suffer from geography in Alaska when it comes to group sessions, even
with people in and around the Anchorage Bowl. It must be much, much harder for
those of you in Nome or other outlying areas.
The
best solution appears to be a means of appealing to other people through a
forum like this discussion board for small-scale training opportunities on an
ad hoc basis. Something like, “Hey, I’m going to be at the local
pond on Saturday morning and could sure use a training partner who knows how to
do the NAVHDA “Retrieve of Duck” drill. Give a call!”
As
John Haddix pointed out in his recent post, putting together a larger training
session has proven to be exceptionally difficult over the years, and we have
tried lots of formats.
I
encourage you to get together with individuals in Nome whenever you can stimulate
the interest, and to call any of our members in Anchorage or Fairbanks whenever
you’re planning to be in the area. I join up with people several times a
year that do that.
We’ll
take another look at running a test next fall and will schedule one if we can
get sufficient interest.
From: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cheryl cavota Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:40 AM To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
Thank you, John:)
I agree the main group should stay and efforts
concentrated on making a go of it. Our state is so large and members
scattered, time, money and long distance travel makes it very hard to draw
together.
I'm wondering if computer type of guidance classes might
help bring enough members & dogs to a test? If only a loose type of
guidance class, say start and see how it went?
I would love to travel on weekends w/my dog(s) but costs
too much to go every weekend. There are times I must go to Fairbanks
for Veterinarian Assistant Classes (I take those in the winter but have not
started this year as I've been insulating bird coops).
Our prosecuting attorney here in Nome is John Earthman who
has two young dogs and he used to be very active in NAVHDA in the past with a
dog or dogs he used to have. He seemed unwilling to train together or
an active member when I spoke with him last year, only wanted to give me all
the books, paperwork he has from back then. I'm going to approach him
again, soon. I know there are many aspects of training dogs that all of
us need to work or practice on, his two young dogs are very unruly in public
and possibly he and I could trade off on what we'd like to see our dogs
become better at. (I've volunteered at the annual vaccination clinic in
December for the past 10 years so see a lot of dogs then but missed last year
as classes were ongoing.)
I shall keep in touch and try to work out a schedule
for meeting up w/you as much as possible.
BTW, John, did you see the pic I posted of Britta, my pup's "Aunt" in The Netherlands? She is 10 years old now, and when I arrived there to pick up Boris I was warned she is all business and not to take Boris outside in the middle of the night as she would be loose in the garage and fenced yard. She sniffed out the wolf ruff from my parka I had hidden deep in a bag the first night, left it in the middle of the kitchen floor and we were immediate friends. My breeders were surprised;) European dogs are very well mannered in public but not as friendly as most of our pets over all, more serious, hunting dogs foremost.
There are some weimaraners scattered from the Fairbanks area, most if not all are treated more as lap dogs or poodles, the owner of the bitch who was selling pups two years ago said his was for his wife to sit and paint her nails...I tried to get them interested in training as they were bred for hunting...Thankfully I haven't seen any pups from those pups advertised for sale, so far. I am in favor of responsible breeding, to be bred for the purpose the breed was meant for. I cannot breed my dog nor entice others to want to breed his line unless I prove he is worthy. Cheryl
--- On Thu, 10/16/08, John Haddix <jhaddix@...> wrote:
From: John Haddix <jhaddix@...> Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 8:33 AM
Cheryl and Tom
I have a 1.5 year old Deutch Drahthaar. I was the vice president for the group in Anchorage but now live in interior Alaska. I am in Delta Junction monday through Friday and Fairganks on weekends. During the spring and fall I work with my dog several times a week and would love to meet up with other versatile dog owners to train. Last year I trained with the interior Alaska Gun Dog Association, in Fairbanks, which is a retriever group, on weekends, and during the week I trained with spaniel folks in Delta Junction. There was also the occasional short hair owner and Drahthaar owner that I trained with. The NAVHDA group in Anchorage lost a lot of momentum because we could not get folks involved in training days. We were often lucky to get one person to show up for a training day. As far as testing we found that we needed at least 15 dogs to test to be able to make ends meet (paying for judges to travel from
the lower 48 ect). We n ever had 15 dogs at a test so one of the officers paid the additional costs out of his pocket. We tried a few things to generate funds to pay for tests but were not able to get folks to show up. The few training days that i set up out at Falcon Ridge on Pt McKinzie I had very low or no attendance at all. I think that at this time it would not be advisable to start another club in Fairbanks. There is cost for insurance, you have to have enough officers to meet the minimum offices, and i forget what else. Having said that though, we could get together and do some trining sessions in Interior under the umbrella of the NAVHDA group in Anchorage. If there is enough interest we may even be able to generate some revenue and have a test in Alaska. Just because the group is based out of Anchorage it does not mean that tests have to be conducted there.
John Haddix
----- Original Message ----- From: cheryl cavota <snowydiamonds@ yahoo.com> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:29 pm Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! To: greatlandnavhda@ yahoogroups. com
> I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my > (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner > (neutered/unapprove d product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" > and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the > website never has updated information and there are never > responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us > scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt > and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my Long > Hair weim. > > I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam
is > hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an > International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is > a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit > I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish > this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others > now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in > person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van > Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06 > > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com> wrote: > > From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com> > Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! > To: greatlandnavhda@ yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM > > > > > > > Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The
training has started. It's > going well. > I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live > closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be > worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's > needs? > Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with > you > folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I agree the main group should stay and efforts concentrated on making a go of it. Our state is so large and members scattered, time, money and long distance travel makes it very hard to draw together.
I'm wondering if computer type of guidance classes might help bring enough members & dogs to a test? If only a loose type of guidance class, say start and see how it went?
I would love to travel on weekends w/my dog(s) but costs too much to go every weekend. There are times I must go to Fairbanks for Veterinarian Assistant Classes (I take those in the winter but have not started this year as I've been insulating bird coops).
Our prosecuting attorney here in Nome is John Earthman who has two young dogs and he used to be very active in NAVHDA in the past with a dog or dogs he used to have. He seemed unwilling to train together or an active member when I spoke with him last year, only wanted to give me all the books, paperwork he has from back then. I'm going to approach him again, soon. I know there are many aspects of training dogs that all of us need to work or practice on, his two young dogs are very unruly in public and possibly he and I could trade off on what we'd like to see our dogs become better at. (I've volunteered at the annual vaccination clinic in December for the past 10 years so see a lot of dogs then but missed last year as classes were ongoing.)
I shall keep in touch and try to work out a schedule for meeting up w/you as much as possible.
I have a 1.5 year old Deutch Drahthaar. I was the vice president for the group in Anchorage but now live in interior Alaska. I am in Delta Junction monday through Friday and Fairganks on weekends. During the spring and fall I work with my dog several times a week and would love to meet up with other versatile dog owners to train. Last year I trained with the interior Alaska Gun Dog Association, in Fairbanks, which is a retriever group, on weekends, and during the week I trained with spaniel folks in Delta Junction. There was also the occasional short hair owner and Drahthaar owner that I trained with. The NAVHDA group in Anchorage lost a lot of momentum because we could not get folks involved in training days. We were often lucky to get one person to show up for a training day. As far as testing we found that we needed at least 15 dogs to test to be able to make ends meet (paying for judges to travel from the lower 48 ect). We n
ever had 15 dogs at a test so one of the officers paid the additional costs out of his pocket. We tried a few things to generate funds to pay for tests but were not able to get folks to show up. The few training days that i set up out at Falcon Ridge on Pt McKinzie I had very low or no attendance at all. I think that at this time it would not be advisable to start another club in Fairbanks. There is cost for insurance, you have to have enough officers to meet the minimum offices, and i forget what else. Having said that though, we could get together and do some trining sessions in Interior under the umbrella of the NAVHDA group in Anchorage. If there is enough interest we may even be able to generate some revenue and have a test in Alaska. Just because the group is based out of Anchorage it does not mean that tests have to be conducted there.
John Haddix
----- Original Message ----- From: cheryl cavota <snowydiamonds@...> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:29 pm Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
> I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my > (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner > (neutered/unapproved product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" > and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the > website never has updated information and there are never > responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us > scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt > and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my Long > Hair weim. > > I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is
> hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an > International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is > a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit > I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish > this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others > now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in > person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van > Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06 > > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> wrote: > > From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> > Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! > To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM > > > > > > > Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's
> going well. > I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live > closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be > worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's > needs? > Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with > you > folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I have a 1.5 year old Deutch Drahthaar. I was the vice president for the group in Anchorage but now live in interior Alaska. I am in Delta Junction monday through Friday and Fairganks on weekends. During the spring and fall I work with my dog several times a week and would love to meet up with other versatile dog owners to train. Last year I trained with the interior Alaska Gun Dog Association, in Fairbanks, which is a retriever group, on weekends, and during the week I trained with spaniel folks in Delta Junction. There was also the occasional short hair owner and Drahthaar owner that I trained with. The NAVHDA group in Anchorage lost a lot of momentum because we could not get folks involved in training days. We were often lucky to get one person to show up for a training day. As far as testing we found that we needed at least 15 dogs to test to be able to make ends meet (paying for judges to travel from the lower 48 ect). We never had 15 dogs at a test so one of the officers paid the additional costs out of his pocket. We tried a few things to generate funds to pay for tests but were not able to get folks to show up. The few training days that i set up out at Falcon Ridge on Pt McKinzie I had very low or no attendance at all. I think that at this time it would not be advisable to start another club in Fairbanks. There is cost for insurance, you have to have enough officers to meet the minimum offices, and i forget what else. Having said that though, we could get together and do some trining sessions in Interior under the umbrella of the NAVHDA group in Anchorage. If there is enough interest we may even be able to generate some revenue and have a test in Alaska. Just because the group is based out of Anchorage it does not mean that tests have to be conducted there.
John Haddix
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM, cheryl cavota wrote:
I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner (neutered/unapprove d product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the website never has updated information and there are never responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my Long Hair weim.
I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@yahoo. com>
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
To: greatlandnavhda@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM
Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's
going well.
I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live
closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be
worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's needs?
Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with you
folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior.
I know of a Wire hair Griffon and a Spinone from Fairbanks who would like to give it a try. We'd have to know the dates to see if it fits our work schedules before we could commit. Gotta feed 'em.
Kim Redding
To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com From: fbxgunnut@... Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:27:38 +0000 Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: Greetings!
Thanks for the info. As for gaging interest for a NA test, put me down for one pup as long as the testing takes place before grouse/ptarmigan season opens on the glorious 10th of August.Might I suggest an open email or call to all Greatland members, gaging interest? I would certainly be willing to call a block of members to defray that cost. Being relatively small in numbers it may very well be that we could not gather enough interest to test here. Perhaps we could still train for testing. On the other hand, if there is enough interest, each member who agrees to test can place a nonrefundable deposit into a trust account, so that "backing out" will not leave other members holding the bag. If it turns out that enough money is not collected to organize a test, it can simply be refunded and the test not set up due to a lack of interest.Perhaps there are some better ideas out there. Tom --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, cheryl cavota <snowydiamonds@...> wrote: > > I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner (neutered/unapproved product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the website never has updated information and there are never responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my Long Hair weim. > > I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06 > > --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> wrote: > > From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> > Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! > To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM > > > > > > > Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's > going well. > I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live > closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be > worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's needs? > Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with you > folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior. >
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Thanks for the info. As for gaging interest for a NA test, put me
down for one pup as long as the testing takes place before
grouse/ptarmigan season opens on the glorious 10th of August.Might I
suggest an open email or call to all Greatland members, gaging
interest? I would certainly be willing to call a block of members
to defray that cost. Being relatively small in numbers it may very
well be that we could not gather enough interest to test here.
Perhaps we could still train for testing. On the other hand, if
there is enough interest, each member who agrees to test can place a
nonrefundable deposit into a trust account, so that "backing out"
will not leave other members holding the bag. If it turns out that
enough money is not collected to organize a test, it can simply be
refunded and the test not set up due to a lack of interest.Perhaps
there are some better ideas out there.
Tom
--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, cheryl cavota
<snowydiamonds@...> wrote:
>
> I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my
(intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner
(neutered/unapproved product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" and
lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the website
never has updated information and there are never responses to this
forum. What a disappointment for all of us scattered around the
state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt and fish w/me but I
would like to try to obtain titles on my Long Hair weim.
>
> I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is
hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an
International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is a
hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit I
was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish this
throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others now, I
will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in person, in the
fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06
>
> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> wrote:
>
> From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...>
> Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings!
> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's
> going well.
> I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live
> closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be
> worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's
needs?
> Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with
you
> folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior.
>
I was interested in attending training sessions and testing my (intact) LH weimaraner and also a SH weimaraner (neutered/unapproved product "grandson" of Show Champion "Evad" and lives to hunt/retrieve) this past summer and fall but the website never has updated information and there are never responses to this forum. What a disappointment for all of us scattered around the state, I am located in Nome so my dogs hunt and fish w/me but I would like to try to obtain titles on my Long Hair weim.
I went to The Netherlands to get my LH in 2007. His dam is hunting tested and approved for 3 breedings/litters, hunts, is an International, Luxemburg and Deutch show champion and his sire is a hunting LH approved for breeding -both out of Germany. I admit I was not persistant in needling members/officials to accomplish this throughout this past Spring, Summer and Fall but warn others now, I will be this year;) Hope to meet you and your dog in person, in the fields and classes... Cheryl and Boris Van Valckesteyn DOB 12/21/06
--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> wrote:
From: Tom Temple <fbxgunnut@...> Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Greetings! To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:25 PM
Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's going well. I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's needs? Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with you folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior.
Well, I finally got my pup (Griff). The training has started. It's
going well.
I am curious if there would be any interest among members who live
closer to FBX in starting a chapter of NAVHDA here? Would it be
worthwhile or does the chapter in Anchorage serve everyone's needs?
Just curious and looking forward to perhaps getting together with you
folks this next year, whether it's in Anchorage or the Interior.
My pup hasn't arrived yet. Still, I'm wondering if there are any
events planned for this year. Perhaps if my schedule allows there
would be an opportunity to volunteer for a hunt test or something.
Hope you and your dogs are enjoying the summer.
Tom
Jan has done a fabulous job on Ebay for Alaska Airedale Rescue and Ann Curran's print would make the perfect gift for your favorite Lover of Airedales and Art or for yourself!
Please forward this to others you know who might be interested. All proceeds benefit Alaska Airedale Rescue.
Subject: [AIRESupport] Ebay listings for Alaska Airedale Rescue
I have added 2 new listings on Ebay. 100% of the proceeds will benefit Alaska Airedale Rescue.
The first auction is for a copy of Ann Curran's Woodland print, donated by Ann. This print is the design for her new mug (which you can see herehttp://www.ragtail.co.uk/). Also included are an Alaska Airedale Rescue tote bag and matching keychain.
The second auction is for a new (still in the wrapper) issue of The Dog Collection magazine, complete with unchewed stuffie, donated by Jackie McGuinness. Also in this auction are an Alaska Airedale Rescue tote bag and matching keychain.
Hello all,
I haven't seen many posts lately, but I admit, I haven't visited this
web group often enough. I have a few thoughts and comments to share.
1. Congrats to Bruce Schwartz and Ouzel (his griffon). At the
American Wirehaired Pointing Griffon National Specialty, they entered
the AKC Master Hunter test all four days and qualified all four days!
Congrats! That is highly impressive. They were a fine example of
the breed in working drive and ethic. They ran with many other
versatile breeds and impressed many. Bruce is an owner, handler who
has embraced the sport and excelled in it. I was awed.
2. I know of a 19 month old male wirehaired pointing griffon that is
being sold to a HUNTING home. He is a litter mate to mine. He has
been raised on a game farm in Idaho and has had many birds shot over
him. His instinct and ability are great. Three of his litter mates
have Prize 1 in NAVHDA and Junior Hunter Titles with AKC. I'm sure
his natural ability is wonderful. If anyone is interested, I will
give you more information. Contact me directly at skidoers@...
3. I heard AKC was now accepting NAVHDA registration (or will soon
be). I think that is great. Maybe the Greatland chapter can partner
with the Arctic Bird Dog Association and bring up more speakers, have
more training days and more fun hunting days together.
As we head into winter, I hope all stay warm and enjoy friends and family.
Polly
How was the clinic??? I really wanted to be there with my two
youngest weims but will have to hope and pray there will be another in
the future! My pup is a long hair wei from The Netherlands and only 5
months old and the other short hair wei is going to be 2 in August.
I'll have to work on what I can until the next clinic...but would like
to know how it went?
I am only in Fairbanks on weekends, and I have a 10 week old pup I have started. I will probably be doing something this weekend. I have a pigeon trap out trying to catch some pigeons. So if you are interested in getting together this weekend let me know.
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Back from NATURAL ABILITY TEST
Hello,
I just returned from a wonderful time in Washington and Oregon. I attended a bird dog seminar at my friends’ (Carol and Jim Ptak’s) ranch in Washington. If you ever plan a trip to Washington (South of Olympia in Rochester), look them up at http://www.gryphonranch.com/. They have 200 acres as a hunting preserve and they offer several training days as well. The pro trainer who presented the seminar we attended was Richard Matzke from Tuxedo Kennels. He was very knowledgeable and had a natural demeanor with the variety of dogs present. Richard has trained and handled several dogs in amateur and pro field trial events. His website is http://www.tuxedokennels.com/ if you want to read more about his talents and dogs. Following the clinic, my nearly 14th month old griffon (Kramer) and I headed south to his Natural Ability test with the Willamette Valley Chapter. The tests were held at the St. Louis Ponds outside of Woodburn, Oregon. It was lush and green there… and wet! I couldn’t believe the size of the garter snakes! WOW! What a difference from interior Alaska. The judges were John Kohnke and Phil Swaim from the Northwest and Cheryl Asmus from Colorado (I think). We started at 7:30 in the morning, with the water work being the first event. All of the dogs tested did well in the water. None failed to retrieve and I think only one needed a bird thrown in to enter the water. This part was done as a collective group. Following that, each dog did the individual bird search and hunt, immediately followed by the tracking portion. Kramer loved his time in the field. He did startle at a snake or something… but he resumed hunting. He had a nice point which he held until I walked up to about 2 feet from his nose from his right side. Then he ‘flushed’ it. One judged had asked me not to say anything and to not ‘handle’ his point at all, as they wanted to evaluate what the dog would do naturally, thus I didn’t ‘whoa’ or command him. He ran his track well, even entering into thick trees to follow the rooster. After a squawk from the pheasant I was told to call Kramer back. He recalled well, but did not have the rooster with him (which is fine in Natural Ability – as they are only measuring whether he can locate it and track it at this level). Anyway, following the evaluation of the remaining dogs the scores were given. Kramer received a Prize 1, perfect score of 112. What a thrill for us. I learned a valuable lesson at the event however, and that is not to compare one dog to another. I have an older griffon who also received a prize 1, perfect score 3 years ago. His hunting style, intensity and drive are extremely different than Kramer’s, yet both hunt well. Prior to the testing of Kramer, I thought I would be lucky to receive a prize 2, as his style of hunting is less intense. I was wrong, however, as the dogs are not compared to each other, but rather against a measure of their individual hunting talents. I learned to value what each dog brings to us, however different it may be. Now I look forward to the continued training of both dogs and fun times with them in the field.
In addition to NAVHDA training, I also do several AKC events as well. I want to encourage others to try obedience, rally, hunt tests, conformation and even agility with their dogs. Contact me if you want to know when some of these events are occurring to check them out for yourself to see if you and your dogs might like those. I have and do compete in all of these events, and I would love to see more field dogs there too. I hope the Greatland chapter will be able to host an NA, UPT and/or UT test this year. What great opportunities to learn more about your dog and how to best train them. I wish I lived closer to attend the training days. If there are members of the Greatland Chapter living in Fairbanks, lets connect and train together. With teamwork, we all will improve.
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Back from NATURAL ABILITY TEST
Hello,
I just returned from a wonderful time in Washington and Oregon. I attended a bird dog seminar at my friends’ (Carol and Jim Ptak’s) ranch in Washington. If you ever plan a trip to Washington (South of Olympia in Rochester), look them up at http://www.gryphonranch.com/. They have 200 acres as a hunting preserve and they offer several training days as well. The pro trainer who presented the seminar we attended was Richard Matzke from Tuxedo Kennels. He was very knowledgeable and had a natural demeanor with the variety of dogs present. Richard has trained and handled several dogs in amateur and pro field trial events. His website is http://www.tuxedokennels.com/ if you want to read more about his talents and dogs. Following the clinic, my nearly 14th month old griffon (Kramer) and I headed south to his Natural Ability test with the Willamette Valley Chapter. The tests were held at the St. Louis Ponds outside of Woodburn, Oregon. It was lush and green there… and wet! I couldn’t believe the size of the garter snakes! WOW! What a difference from interior Alaska. The judges were John Kohnke and Phil Swaim from the Northwest and Cheryl Asmus from Colorado (I think). We started at 7:30 in the morning, with the water work being the first event. All of the dogs tested did well in the water. None failed to retrieve and I think only one needed a bird thrown in to enter the water. This part was done as a collective group. Following that, each dog did the individual bird search and hunt, immediately followed by the tracking portion. Kramer loved his time in the field. He did startle at a snake or something… but he resumed hunting. He had a nice point which he held until I walked up to about 2 feet from his nose from his right side. Then he ‘flushed’ it. One judged had asked me not to say anything and to not ‘handle’ his point at all, as they wanted to evaluate what the dog would do naturally, thus I didn’t ‘whoa’ or command him. He ran his track well, even entering into thick trees to follow the rooster. After a squawk from the pheasant I was told to call Kramer back. He recalled well, but did not have the rooster with him (which is fine in Natural Ability – as they are only measuring whether he can locate it and track it at this level). Anyway, following the evaluation of the remaining dogs the scores were given. Kramer received a Prize 1, perfect score of 112. What a thrill for us. I learned a valuable lesson at the event however, and that is not to compare one dog to another. I have an older griffon who also received a prize 1, perfect score 3 years ago. His hunting style, intensity and drive are extremely different than Kramer’s, yet both hunt well. Prior to the testing of Kramer, I thought I would be lucky to receive a prize 2, as his style of hunting is less intense. I was wrong, however, as the dogs are not compared to each other, but rather against a measure of their individual hunting talents. I learned to value what each dog brings to us, however different it may be. Now I look forward to the continued training of both dogs and fun times with them in the field.
In addition to NAVHDA training, I also do several AKC events as well. I want to encourage others to try obedience, rally, hunt tests, conformation and even agility with their dogs. Contact me if you want to know when some of these events are occurring to check them out for yourself to see if you and your dogs might like those. I have and do compete in all of these events, and I would love to see more field dogs there too. I hope the Greatland chapter will be able to host an NA, UPT and/or UT test this year. What great opportunities to learn more about your dog and how to best train them. I wish I lived closer to attend the training days. If there are members of the Greatland Chapter living in Fairbanks, lets connect and train together. With teamwork, we all will improve.
I just returned from a wonderful time in Washington and Oregon.
I attended a bird dog seminar at my friends’ (Carol and Jim Ptak’s)
ranch in Washington.
If you ever plan a trip to Washington (South of Olympia in Rochester), look them up at http://www.gryphonranch.com/. They
have 200 acres as a hunting preserve and they offer several training days as
well. The pro trainer who presented the seminar we attended was Richard
Matzke from Tuxedo Kennels. He was very knowledgeable and had a natural
demeanor with the variety of dogs present. Richard has trained and
handled several dogs in amateur and pro field trial events. His website
is http://www.tuxedokennels.com/ if
you want to read more about his talents and dogs. Following the clinic, my
nearly 14th month old griffon (Kramer) and I headed south to his
Natural Ability test with the Willamette Valley Chapter. The tests were held at
the St. Louis Ponds outside of Woodburn,
Oregon. It was lush and
green there… and wet! I couldn’t believe the size of the
garter snakes! WOW! What a difference from interior Alaska. The judges were John Kohnke
and Phil Swaim from the Northwest and Cheryl Asmus from Colorado (I think). We started at 7:30
in the morning, with the water work being the first event. All of the
dogs tested did well in the water. None failed to retrieve and I think
only one needed a bird thrown in to enter the water. This part was done
as a collective group. Following that, each dog did the individual bird
search and hunt, immediately followed by the tracking portion. Kramer
loved his time in the field. He did startle at a snake or something…
but he resumed hunting. He had a nice point which he held until I walked
up to about 2 feet from his nose from his right side. Then he ‘flushed’
it. One judged had asked me not to say anything and to not ‘handle’
his point at all, as they wanted to evaluate what the dog would do naturally,
thus I didn’t ‘whoa’ or command him. He ran his track
well, even entering into thick trees to follow the rooster. After a
squawk from the pheasant I was told to call Kramer back. He recalled
well, but did not have the rooster with him (which is fine in Natural Ability –
as they are only measuring whether he can locate it and track it at this
level). Anyway, following the evaluation of the remaining dogs the scores
were given. Kramer received a Prize 1, perfect score of 112. What a
thrill for us. I learned a valuable lesson at the event however, and that
is not to compare one dog to another. I have an older griffon who also
received a prize 1, perfect score 3 years ago. His hunting style,
intensity and drive are extremely different than Kramer’s, yet both hunt
well. Prior to the testing of Kramer, I thought I would be lucky to
receive a prize 2, as his style of hunting is less intense. I was wrong,
however, as the dogs are not compared to each other, but rather against a
measure of their individual hunting talents. I learned to value what each
dog brings to us, however different it may be. Now I look forward to the
continued training of both dogs and fun times with them in the field.
In addition to NAVHDA training, I also do
several AKC events as well. I want to encourage others to try obedience,
rally, hunt tests, conformation and even agility with their dogs. Contact
me if you want to know when some of these events are occurring to check them
out for yourself to see if you and your dogs might like those. I have and
do compete in all of these events, and I would love to see more field dogs
there too. I hope the Greatland chapter will be able to host an NA, UPT
and/or UT test this year. What great opportunities to learn more about
your dog and how to best train them. I wish I lived closer to attend the
training days. If there are members of the Greatland Chapter living in Fairbanks, lets connect
and train together. With teamwork, we all will improve.
There are four Training days schedualed on the Calendar page for May,
where are these training days being held? Weekends?
The schedual looks great.
Thanks
Jenny
I love Gabby. That dark look and her intensity is just awesome. Don't know much about the German scoring, but I'll bet the 12 in the duck search was the max one could get.
----- Original Message ---- From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...> To: JD Kerley <jdkerley@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:29:11 PM Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
Wild Bill in Eagle River probably has some. I've bought quite a few homers from him in the past. He has good flying pigeons.
I don't know his real name...anyone have his number? Might be Bill Manor.
Let me know if you get some birds. I throw, launch about ten per dog. Forget about tieing the bird to a string....:^)
Jenny
----- Original Message ----- From: JD Kerley To: jenny@... Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
Jenny~
Where could I get pigeons in Anchorage? AND I would love to get my dog out in the field!!
Thanks!
JD Kerley Anchorage, AK JDKerley@...
----- Original Message ---- From: jhorstmn <jenny@...> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:22:42 AM Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
I posted a few photos of two males from my litter, Argos and Arrak if anyone is interested in seeing them. I hope to post photos of the rest of the litter this week. http://www.meadowla kes.us/litters. htm
My fields have finally melted off and we can get the pups on birds! It's really been a long winter. If anyone would like to come out and train here you are welcome. You will need to provide your own pigeons. I have about 40 left and need them for my own dogs.
I love Gabby. That dark look and her intensity is just awesome. Don't
know much about the German scoring, but I'll bet the 12 in the duck
search was the max one could get.
Bruce
On Apr 18, 2007, at 1:54 PM, JD Kerley wrote:
> Name and number would be great!! Thanks!
> Â
> JD Kerley
> Anchorage, AK
> JDKerley@...
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jenny Horstman <jenny@...>
> To: JD Kerley <jdkerley@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:29:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
>
> Wild Bill in Eagle River probably has some. I've bought quite a few
> homers from him in the past. He has good flying pigeons.
> Â
> I don't know his real name...anyone have his number? Might be Bill
> Manor.
> Â
> Let me know if you get some birds. I throw, launch about ten per dog.
> Forget about tieing the bird to a string....:^)
> Â
> Jenny
> Â
> Â
>> Â
>> Â
>> Â
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: JD Kerley
>> To: jenny@...
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
>>
>> Jenny~
>>
>> Where could I get pigeons in Anchorage? AND I would love to get my
>> dog out in the field!!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Â
>> JD Kerley
>> Anchorage, AK
>> JDKerley@...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: jhorstmn <jenny@...>
>> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:22:42 AM
>> Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
>>
>>
>> I posted a few photos of two males from my litter, Argos and Arrak if
>> anyone is interested in seeing them. I hope to post photos of the rest
>> of the litter this week. http://www.meadowla kes.us/litters. htm
>>
>> My fields have finally melted off and we can get the pups on birds!
>> It's really been a long winter. If anyone would like to come out and
>> train here you are welcome. You will need to provide your own pigeons.
>> I have about 40 left and need them for my own dogs.
>>
>> Jenny
>>
>>
>
>
>
----- Original Message ---- From: jhorstmn <jenny@...> To: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:22:42 AM Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Puppy photos
I posted a few photos of two males from my litter, Argos and Arrak if anyone is interested in seeing them. I hope to post photos of the rest of the litter this week. http://www.meadowla kes.us/litters. htm
My fields have finally melted off and we can get the pups on birds! It's really been a long winter. If anyone would like to come out and train here you are welcome. You will need to provide your own pigeons. I have about 40 left and need them for my own dogs.
Those are some nice looking dogs.
Brian
--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@...> wrote:
>
> I posted a few photos of two males from my litter, Argos and Arrak if
> anyone is interested in seeing them. I hope to post photos of the
rest
> of the litter this week. http://www.meadowlakes.us/litters.htm
>
> My fields have finally melted off and we can get the pups on birds!
> It's really been a long winter. If anyone would like to come out and
> train here you are welcome. You will need to provide your own
pigeons.
> I have about 40 left and need them for my own dogs.
>
> Jenny
>
I posted a few photos of two males from my litter, Argos and Arrak if
anyone is interested in seeing them. I hope to post photos of the rest
of the litter this week. http://www.meadowlakes.us/litters.htm
My fields have finally melted off and we can get the pups on birds!
It's really been a long winter. If anyone would like to come out and
train here you are welcome. You will need to provide your own pigeons.
I have about 40 left and need them for my own dogs.
Jenny
Just wanted to drop a line to those of you who knew him, my dog Kuiu (Gunar III vom Altmoor) was hit an killed by a car last evening near our home in Fairbanks.
I am so deeply sorry that you lost Kuiu.
I know the love and dedication that you both had in your teamwork
together.
I was so impressed with the work ethic of
Kuiu and his constant drive. I will fondly remember him. He was not only your
Companion and friend, but also a coworker
as he patrolled with you all around the Donnelly Dome area.
I hope you are comforted at this time by
all the memories you have of him.
With respect,
Polly Divens
From: greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Haddix Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007
12:04 PM To:
greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Kuiu
Hello all
Just wanted to drop a line to those of you who knew
him, my dog Kuiu (Gunar III vom Altmoor) was hit an killed by a car last
evening near our home in Fairbanks.
Just wanted to drop a line to those of you who knew him, my dog Kuiu (Gunar III vom Altmoor) was hit an killed by a car last evening near our home in Fairbanks.
There was FCI registered Brittany that ran on Saturday (forgot about that
dog.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jenny Horstman" <jenny@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [greatlandnavhda] Re: New testing organization
>I entered my DD in a VJP spring of 06, and she was the only DD entered that
> day , the other 4 dogs were German Longhaars. Del Peterson handled two of
> them and If I remember right they were all litter mates. The two following
> days all the dogs entered in the tests were DD's. The Judges were the
> same.
> I don't know why it was arranged that way. The three days of tests were
> held
> on the same grounds in Boise.
>
> Jenny
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Thoman" <list@...>
> To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:59 AM
> Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: New testing organization
>
>
>>I don't know about everywhere else but, around here, they complain that
>> the DD guys will get their dogs in ahead of the "odd" breed dogs even
>> if they come late. Basically, they complain that they don't get fair
>> treatment.
>>
>> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@...> wrote:
>>> Do you know why they have had difficulty getting into JGHV tests? Do
>>> the tests fill up to quickly?
>>> Jenny
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
>> Canada
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
> Canada
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
I entered my DD in a VJP spring of 06, and she was the only DD entered that
day , the other 4 dogs were German Longhaars. Del Peterson handled two of
them and If I remember right they were all litter mates. The two following
days all the dogs entered in the tests were DD's. The Judges were the same.
I don't know why it was arranged that way. The three days of tests were held
on the same grounds in Boise.
Jenny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Thoman" <list@...>
To: <greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:59 AM
Subject: [greatlandnavhda] Re: New testing organization
>I don't know about everywhere else but, around here, they complain that
> the DD guys will get their dogs in ahead of the "odd" breed dogs even
> if they come late. Basically, they complain that they don't get fair
> treatment.
>
> --- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@...> wrote:
>> Do you know why they have had difficulty getting into JGHV tests? Do
>> the tests fill up to quickly?
>> Jenny
>>
>
>
>
>
> Greatland Chapter of NAVHDA, with members throughout Alaska and Western
> Canada
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
I don't know about everywhere else but, around here, they complain that
the DD guys will get their dogs in ahead of the "odd" breed dogs even
if they come late. Basically, they complain that they don't get fair
treatment.
--- In greatlandnavhda@yahoogroups.com, "jhorstmn" <jenny@...> wrote:
> Do you know why they have had difficulty getting into JGHV tests? Do
> the tests fill up to quickly?
> Jenny
>