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#1045 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:54 am
Subject: Changed votes in Senate roll call #28
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FYI to anyone tracking Senate votes, two senators changed their vote in
roll call #28. The file on GovTrack has been updated.

John, writing below & attached, indicated there might have been
confusion between votes #28 and #29, but I haven't substantiated that.
(If it is true, the congressional record may already have been revised.)

Josh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:  Vote confusion and problems with Senate Roll Call #28
Date:  Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0500
From:  John McComb <john@...>
To:  'Joshua Tauberer' <jt@...>



Josh,

Yesterday there was some confusion by two Senators on their votes on the
Vitter amendment, Roll Call #28. They changed their vote, but referred
to the wrong Roll Call #.

The end result was that the Senate vote XML file for Roll Call #28 was
wrong until early this morning. It has now been corrected.

You have the wrong vote information for Senators Collins and Murkowski
who should be shown as voting Nay on Roll Call #28 with results of 44Y-54N.

The attached email is from my exchange with the Secretary of the Senate
about this issue and the fact that they have now corrected the XML file.

John

------------------------------------------------------------------------

John A. McComb
*Wayburn Wilderness House*
122 C St NW Ste 240
Washington, DC 20001-2109
202-266-0433 (work)
703-801-4351 (cell)
202-628-1988 (fax)
john@... <mailto:john@...>
www.jmccomb.com <http://www.jmccomb.com/>


#1046 From: Derek Willis <dwillis@...>
Date: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: Changed votes in Senate roll call #28
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Thanks for this, Josh. We've updated our data for roll call 28 as well.

Derek Willis

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
 

FYI to anyone tracking Senate votes, two senators changed their vote in
roll call #28. The file on GovTrack has been updated.

John, writing below & attached, indicated there might have been
confusion between votes #28 and #29, but I haven't substantiated that.
(If it is true, the congressional record may already have been revised.)

Josh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Vote confusion and problems with Senate Roll Call #28
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:15:11 -0500
From: John McComb <john@...>
To: 'Joshua Tauberer' <jt@...>

Josh,

Yesterday there was some confusion by two Senators on their votes on the
Vitter amendment, Roll Call #28. They changed their vote, but referred
to the wrong Roll Call #.

The end result was that the Senate vote XML file for Roll Call #28 was
wrong until early this morning. It has now been corrected.

You have the wrong vote information for Senators Collins and Murkowski
who should be shown as voting Nay on Roll Call #28 with results of 44Y-54N.

The attached email is from my exchange with the Secretary of the Senate
about this issue and the fact that they have now corrected the XML file.

John

----------------------------------------------------------

John A. McComb
*Wayburn Wilderness House*
122 C St NW Ste 240
Washington, DC 20001-2109
202-266-0433 (work)
703-801-4351 (cell)
202-628-1988 (fax)
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#1047 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:25 pm
Subject: New address for legacy/deprecated APIs
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Hi, all.

I know I already gave someone a real headache for not giving a heads up
and feel bad about that.

If you haven't seen, GovTrack is now on "2.0". The whole web backend got
rewritten. Everything public-facing has changed.

If anyone is using one of the GovTrack "APIs" --- i.e. an HTTP call to a
URL with an .xpd extension --- those are now running at a different
location: http://legacy.govtrack.us rather than www.govtrack.us.

These URLs did not yet make it over to the new site and probably will
look completely different anyway when I start building proper APIs.

If you don't use those APIs, nothing to worry about. Nothing changed in
the data files.

Thanks, and apologies if I messed things up for you.

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#1048 From: "Francis" <favila@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:19 pm
Subject: Invalid xml characters in bills
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At least one bill's xml has invalid characters:
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/112/bills/h4517.xml

The reason for this is that the source on thomas (maybe ultimately at CRS) has
invalid characters. So far what I've been seeing is the SUB (0x1A) control
character.

Other not-yet-scraped bills have this issue too (these are just the ones I have
identified):
http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.112hr4715
http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.112hr4716

I discovered this issue through the scraper at washingtonwatch

At the very least the scraper needs to strip out invalid characters, but
ultimately the upstream source of the bad characters needs to be fixed as well.
Anyone know who to contact for that?

#1049 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: Invalid xml characters in bills
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Thanks, Francis.

I corrected the XML file and the scraper yesterday afternoon, so
hopefully the data is now good.

And I let my LOC contact know about HR4517 but I'll also pass on the
other two --- thanks for those links.

- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

http://razor.occams.info

On 04/27/2012 12:19 PM, Francis wrote:
> At least one bill's xml has invalid characters:
> http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/112/bills/h4517.xml
>
> The reason for this is that the source on thomas (maybe ultimately at CRS) has
invalid characters. So far what I've been seeing is the SUB (0x1A) control
character.
>
> Other not-yet-scraped bills have this issue too (these are just the ones I
have identified):
> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.112hr4715
> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.uscongress/legislation.112hr4716
>
> I discovered this issue through the scraper at washingtonwatch
>
> At the very least the scraper needs to strip out invalid characters, but
ultimately the upstream source of the bad characters needs to be fixed as well.
Anyone know who to contact for that?
>
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#1050 From: "Francis" <favila@...>
Date: Fri May 4, 2012 10:30 pm
Subject: Bioguide data
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I'm looking for machine-readable Bioguide data, in particular the short
biographical paragraphs for currently-serving congressmen.

I know about bioguide html: http://bioguide.congress.gov/
I know that a bioguide xml dtd exists: http://xml.house.gov/#bioguide
I know that at least four bioguide xml documents exist:
http://xml.house.gov/bioguide/BioguideXML.zip

I know that the biographical text on the bioguide website corresponds exactly to
the text in the four bioguide xml documents.

I know that in January of 2009, Josh produced a dump of bioguide data scraped
from the html site into CSVs:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/696
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv

It was also scraped by Bill Farrell, and the data was at a now-defunct
pythia.progressivenation.net:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/55
http://pythia.progressivenation.net/modules/tinycontent3/index.php?id=15

I strongly suspect that the bioguide HTML is generated directly from the
bioguide XML, or at least from some source common to both.

However, *where is the bioguide XML*?

#1051 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 12:43 am
Subject: Re: Bioguide data
konklone
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I've asked the same question, of Josh, and of people inside Congress. The XML isn't available publicly, and it's not obvious whether or when it will be.

Conclusion: :(

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Francis <favila@...> wrote:
I'm looking for machine-readable Bioguide data, in particular the short biographical paragraphs for currently-serving congressmen.

I know about bioguide html: http://bioguide.congress.gov/
I know that a bioguide xml dtd exists: http://xml.house.gov/#bioguide
I know that at least four bioguide xml documents exist: http://xml.house.gov/bioguide/BioguideXML.zip

I know that the biographical text on the bioguide website corresponds exactly to the text in the four bioguide xml documents.

I know that in January of 2009, Josh produced a dump of bioguide data scraped from the html site into CSVs:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/696
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv

It was also scraped by Bill Farrell, and the data was at a now-defunct pythia.progressivenation.net:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/55
http://pythia.progressivenation.net/modules/tinycontent3/index.php?id=15

I strongly suspect that the bioguide HTML is generated directly from the bioguide XML, or at least from some source common to both.

However, *where is the bioguide XML*?




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#1052 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Sat May 5, 2012 12:45 am
Subject: Re: Bioguide data
konklone
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At the bottom of the House Clerk's site, they list this email address at the bottom to contact them: info.clerkweb@...

I would send them an email and let them know you're interested in that XML. The House is doing a lot right now around publishing data in bulk and in machine readable formats, now is the time to ask and help them prioritize.

-- Eric

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Eric Mill <eric@...> wrote:
I've asked the same question, of Josh, and of people inside Congress. The XML isn't available publicly, and it's not obvious whether or when it will be.

Conclusion: :(

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Francis <favila@...> wrote:
I'm looking for machine-readable Bioguide data, in particular the short biographical paragraphs for currently-serving congressmen.

I know about bioguide html: http://bioguide.congress.gov/
I know that a bioguide xml dtd exists: http://xml.house.gov/#bioguide
I know that at least four bioguide xml documents exist: http://xml.house.gov/bioguide/BioguideXML.zip

I know that the biographical text on the bioguide website corresponds exactly to the text in the four bioguide xml documents.

I know that in January of 2009, Josh produced a dump of bioguide data scraped from the html site into CSVs:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/696
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv

It was also scraped by Bill Farrell, and the data was at a now-defunct pythia.progressivenation.net:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/55
http://pythia.progressivenation.net/modules/tinycontent3/index.php?id=15

I strongly suspect that the bioguide HTML is generated directly from the bioguide XML, or at least from some source common to both.

However, *where is the bioguide XML*?




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#1053 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Bioguide data
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I re-ran my bioguide scraper and updated those files:

http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide1.csv
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide2.csv
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv

However, something changed in the character encoding so it looks like
non-ascii characters are now messed up or in something besides utf8.

Looking at a diff of changes there were some corrections in the data and
some people were removed... I am hoping the removed identifiers were for
dupes for name changes, but I'd have to look more closely to know for sure.

Deletions obviously pose an interesting problem if anyone is using
bioguide IDs as primary keys!

- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

http://razor.occams.info

On 05/04/2012 06:30 PM, Francis wrote:
> I'm looking for machine-readable Bioguide data, in particular the short
biographical paragraphs for currently-serving congressmen.
>
> I know about bioguide html: http://bioguide.congress.gov/
> I know that a bioguide xml dtd exists: http://xml.house.gov/#bioguide
> I know that at least four bioguide xml documents exist:
http://xml.house.gov/bioguide/BioguideXML.zip
>
> I know that the biographical text on the bioguide website corresponds exactly
to the text in the four bioguide xml documents.
>
> I know that in January of 2009, Josh produced a dump of bioguide data scraped
from the html site into CSVs:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/696
> http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv
>
> It was also scraped by Bill Farrell, and the data was at a now-defunct
pythia.progressivenation.net:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/55
> http://pythia.progressivenation.net/modules/tinycontent3/index.php?id=15
>
> I strongly suspect that the bioguide HTML is generated directly from the
bioguide XML, or at least from some source common to both.
>
> However, *where is the bioguide XML*?
>
>
>
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#1054 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Bioguide data
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At the House Legislative Data conference in February, the lady who invented the Bioguide was there, and after the conference she went and fixed a couple of duplicate/broken bioguides, which might account for this.

-- Eric

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
I re-ran my bioguide scraper and updated those files:

http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide1.csv
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide2.csv
http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv

However, something changed in the character encoding so it looks like
non-ascii characters are now messed up or in something besides utf8.

Looking at a diff of changes there were some corrections in the data and
some people were removed... I am hoping the removed identifiers were for
dupes for name changes, but I'd have to look more closely to know for sure.

Deletions obviously pose an interesting problem if anyone is using
bioguide IDs as primary keys!

- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

http://razor.occams.info

On 05/04/2012 06:30 PM, Francis wrote:
> I'm looking for machine-readable Bioguide data, in particular the short biographical paragraphs for currently-serving congressmen.
>
> I know about bioguide html: http://bioguide.congress.gov/
> I know that a bioguide xml dtd exists: http://xml.house.gov/#bioguide
> I know that at least four bioguide xml documents exist: http://xml.house.gov/bioguide/BioguideXML.zip
>
> I know that the biographical text on the bioguide website corresponds exactly to the text in the four bioguide xml documents.
>
> I know that in January of 2009, Josh produced a dump of bioguide data scraped from the html site into CSVs:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/696
> http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/bioguide3.csv
>
> It was also scraped by Bill Farrell, and the data was at a now-defunct pythia.progressivenation.net:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/govtrack/message/55
> http://pythia.progressivenation.net/modules/tinycontent3/index.php?id=15
>
> I strongly suspect that the bioguide HTML is generated directly from the bioguide XML, or at least from some source common to both.
>
> However, *where is the bioguide XML*?
>
>
>
>
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#1055 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 1:07 am
Subject: GovTrack API (experimental)
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I've put this off just about long enough-

GovTrack now has an API!

Currently bills and people are included in the API. (Votes and
committees will come later if there's interest.)

More here:

http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api

It's experimental at the moment. I don't have any caching on it, no API
keys, etc. Go easy!

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#1056 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 3:39 am
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the docs, too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

Are you using this in anything yourself now?

-- Eric

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
I've put this off just about long enough-

GovTrack now has an API!

Currently bills and people are included in the API. (Votes and
committees will come later if there's interest.)

More here:

http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api

It's experimental at the moment. I don't have any caching on it, no API
keys, etc. Go easy!

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#1057 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 10:58 am
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
  > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the docs,
  > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the
infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator] filtering.

  > Are you using this in anything yourself now?

Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me asking
for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If people want to
build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)

Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models, so I use it
at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting too.)


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On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
> Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the docs,
> too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
> Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
> <mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:
>
>     I've put this off just about long enough-
>
>     GovTrack now has an API!
>
>     Currently bills and people are included in the API. (Votes and
>     committees will come later if there's interest.)
>
>     More here:
>
>     http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api
>
>     It's experimental at the moment. I don't have any caching on it, no API
>     keys, etc. Go easy!
>
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>     - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
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#1058 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all? This has become the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't documented the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem, but you're developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating relevance, so you'd be in a good position to do it well.

-- Eric

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
> Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the docs,
> too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator] filtering.


> Are you using this in anything yourself now?

Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If people want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)

Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models, so I use it at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting too.)



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On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:


Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the docs,
too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

Are you using this in anything yourself now?

-- Eric

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
<mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:

   I've put this off just about long enough-

   GovTrack now has an API!

   Currently bills and people are included in the API. (Votes and
   committees will come later if there's interest.)

   More here:

   http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api

   It's experimental at the moment. I don't have any caching on it, no API
   keys, etc. Go easy!

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   http://razor.occams.info


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#1059 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu May 17, 2012 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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Probably, yeah. Right now the API is based on the Django ORM, which hits
MySQL. That's not great for search so I have to see if I can switch it
transparently to using Haystack, or else build a separate API for search.

But document relevance is.... ugh. Two fun facts: The highest-prognosis
bills are the dumb ones like post office namings, so that's not good for
relevance. And the top visited bills are almost never the ones people
should really be looking at, so popularity is bad too. Fun fun.

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On 05/17/2012 11:15 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
> Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all? This has become
> the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't documented
> the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem, but you're
> developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating relevance, so you'd be
> in a good position to do it well.
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
> <mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>      > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
>     docs,
>      > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>     Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the
>     infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator] filtering.
>
>
>      > Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>     Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me
>     asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If people
>     want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)
>
>     Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models, so I
>     use it at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting too.)
>
>
>
>     - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
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>
>     On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
>
>         Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
>         docs,
>         too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>         Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>         -- Eric
>
>         On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer
>         <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
>         <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>> wrote:
>
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>
>             GovTrack now has an API!
>
>             Currently bills and people are included in the API. (Votes and
>             committees will come later if there's interest.)
>
>             More here:
>
>         http://www.govtrack.us/__developers/api
>         <http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api>
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Date: Thu May 17, 2012 3:36 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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So fun. 

We had a nice (potential) success story at Sunlight the other day here, where we caught a nasty proposed FOIA exemption in a bill being actively crafted inside the House through our search engine (second item down on this list, right now: http://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/search/federal_bills/section%20552%20of%20title%205). It has no official summary, at the time it had no official "short title" yet and was a big paragraph of text...and as you can see my highlighter is failing to even provide an excerpt for that result. John had to open up the official text on GPO and dig through the text to find out why it even came up. This was a very relevant bill, but it was only spotted because it was new and because John is a diligent guy.

It had been announced for floor activity, and was introduced by the committee chair, so maybe those would help in relevance - if you also tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way, is just to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.

-- Eric

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
Probably, yeah. Right now the API is based on the Django ORM, which hits MySQL. That's not great for search so I have to see if I can switch it transparently to using Haystack, or else build a separate API for search.

But document relevance is.... ugh. Two fun facts: The highest-prognosis bills are the dumb ones like post office namings, so that's not good for relevance. And the top visited bills are almost never the ones people should really be looking at, so popularity is bad too. Fun fun.


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On 05/17/2012 11:15 AM, Eric Mill wrote:


Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all? This has become
the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't documented
the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem, but you're
developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating relevance, so you'd be
in a good position to do it well.

-- Eric

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
<mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:

   On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
    > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
   docs,
    > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

   Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the
   infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator] filtering.


    > Are you using this in anything yourself now?

   Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me
   asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If people
   want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)

   Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models, so I
   use it at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting too.)



   - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

   http://razor.occams.info

   On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:



       Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
       docs,
       too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

       Are you using this in anything yourself now?

       -- Eric

       On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer
       <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
       <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>> wrote:

           I've put this off just about long enough-

           GovTrack now has an API!

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           committees will come later if there's interest.)

           More here:

       http://www.govtrack.us/__developers/api

       <http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api>

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Date: Wed May 23, 2012 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
> if you also
> tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way, is just
> to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.

Yeah, that is worth a try. I'm now sorting bills on the advanced search
by a modified-prognosis score that just omits any boost that post office
bills and some other bills get, and also arbitrarily de-weights resolutions.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse

Think it's more useful than e.g. last action date? Looking at the
results I think so but I'm not sure.

(I guess I could do A/B testing with users but it's so much trouble to
be quantitative.)

- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

http://razor.occams.info

On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
> So fun.
>
> We had a nice (potential) success story at Sunlight the other day here,
> where we caught
> <https://twitter.com/#!/JohnWonderlich/status/202385148161953793> a
> nasty proposed FOIA exemption in a bill being actively crafted inside
> the House through our search engine (second item down on this list,
> right now:
>
http://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/search/federal_bills/section%20552%20of%20ti\
tle%205).
> It has no official summary, at the time it had no official "short title"
> yet and was a big paragraph of text...and as you can see my highlighter
> is failing to even provide an excerpt for that result. John had to open
> up the official text on GPO and dig through the text to find out why it
> even came up. This was a very relevant bill, but it was only spotted
> because it was new and because John is a diligent guy.
>
> It had been announced for floor activity, and was introduced by the
> committee chair, so maybe those would help in relevance - if you also
> tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way, is just
> to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
> <mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:
>
>     Probably, yeah. Right now the API is based on the Django ORM, which
>     hits MySQL. That's not great for search so I have to see if I can
>     switch it transparently to using Haystack, or else build a separate
>     API for search.
>
>     But document relevance is.... ugh. Two fun facts: The
>     highest-prognosis bills are the dumb ones like post office namings,
>     so that's not good for relevance. And the top visited bills are
>     almost never the ones people should really be looking at, so
>     popularity is bad too. Fun fun.
>
>
>     - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
>     http://razor.occams.info
>
>     On 05/17/2012 11:15 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
>
>         Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all? This has
>         become
>         the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't
>         documented
>         the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem, but you're
>         developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating relevance, so
>         you'd be
>         in a good position to do it well.
>
>         -- Eric
>
>         On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer
>         <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
>         <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>> wrote:
>
>             On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>          > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
>             docs,
>          > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>             Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the
>             infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator]
>         filtering.
>
>
>          > Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>             Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me
>             asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If
>         people
>             want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)
>
>             Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models,
>         so I
>             use it at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting
>         too.)
>
>
>
>             - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
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>             On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
>
>                 Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job
>         with the
>                 docs,
>                 too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>                 Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>                 -- Eric
>
>                 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer
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>
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#1062 From: Eric Mill <eric@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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Sorting on prognosis is a cool idea. Does that mean that bills already passed into law will always occur at the top, or the bottom, or...?

You are the last person who needs to hear the definition of resolution types, but just to make sure, you'd probably want to only de-weight plain resolutions and concurrent resolutions, and not joint resolutions (which are bills with the force of law and are signed by the President).

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...> wrote:
On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
if you also
tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way, is just
to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.

Yeah, that is worth a try. I'm now sorting bills on the advanced search by a modified-prognosis score that just omits any boost that post office bills and some other bills get, and also arbitrarily de-weights resolutions.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse

Think it's more useful than e.g. last action date? Looking at the results I think so but I'm not sure.

(I guess I could do A/B testing with users but it's so much trouble to be quantitative.)


- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

http://razor.occams.info

On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
So fun.

We had a nice (potential) success story at Sunlight the other day here,
where we caught
<https://twitter.com/#!/JohnWonderlich/status/202385148161953793> a

nasty proposed FOIA exemption in a bill being actively crafted inside
the House through our search engine (second item down on this list,
right now:
http://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/search/federal_bills/section%20552%20of%20title%205).
It has no official summary, at the time it had no official "short title"
yet and was a big paragraph of text...and as you can see my highlighter
is failing to even provide an excerpt for that result. John had to open
up the official text on GPO and dig through the text to find out why it
even came up. This was a very relevant bill, but it was only spotted
because it was new and because John is a diligent guy.

It had been announced for floor activity, and was introduced by the
committee chair, so maybe those would help in relevance - if you also
tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way, is just
to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.

-- Eric

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
<mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:

   Probably, yeah. Right now the API is based on the Django ORM, which
   hits MySQL. That's not great for search so I have to see if I can
   switch it transparently to using Haystack, or else build a separate
   API for search.

   But document relevance is.... ugh. Two fun facts: The
   highest-prognosis bills are the dumb ones like post office namings,
   so that's not good for relevance. And the top visited bills are
   almost never the ones people should really be looking at, so
   popularity is bad too. Fun fun.


   - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

   http://razor.occams.info

   On 05/17/2012 11:15 AM, Eric Mill wrote:



       Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all? This has
       become
       the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't
       documented
       the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem, but you're
       developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating relevance, so
       you'd be
       in a good position to do it well.

       -- Eric

       On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer
       <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
       <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>> wrote:

           On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
        > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
           docs,
        > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

           Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made sure the
           infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator]
       filtering.


        > Are you using this in anything yourself now?

           Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people come to me
           asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them quickly. If
       people
           want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half joking.)

           Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's models,
       so I
           use it at that level. (Makes it practically self-documenting
       too.)



           - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)

       http://razor.occams.info

           On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:



               Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job
       with the
               docs,
               too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).

               Are you using this in anything yourself now?

               -- Eric

               On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer
       <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
       <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>
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                   GovTrack now has an API!

                   Currently bills and people are included in the API.
       (Votes and
                   committees will come later if there's interest.)

                   More here:

       http://www.govtrack.us/____developers/api
       <http://www.govtrack.us/__developers/api>


       <http://www.govtrack.us/__developers/api
       <http://www.govtrack.us/developers/api>>

                   It's experimental at the moment. I don't have any
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                   keys, etc. Go easy!

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Date: Wed May 23, 2012 10:55 pm
Subject: Re: GovTrack API (experimental)
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On 05/23/2012 06:37 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
  > Sorting on prognosis is a cool idea. Does that mean that bills already
  > passed into law will always occur at the top, or the bottom, or...?

Yeah this part is weird. The only status taken into account is whether
the bill has been reported by committee. So reported bills get a boost.
Enacted bills get the same boost, but no additional boost for being
passed/enacted/etc. So everything besides introduced bills get a boost.

  > you'd probably want to only de-weight
  > plain resolutions and concurrent resolutions

The actual weights are:

     simple resolution .2
     concurrent resolution: .3
     joint resolution: .35
     bill: 1.0

So I probably went too far with the joint resolutions.

About half of joint resolutions are proposing an amendment to the
constitution (=no force of law). Rather than weighting them all 0.3, I
should probably just see why the prognosis doesn't include a factor for
constitutional amendment resolutions and weight those accordingly (i.e.
none of those ever pass) and, overall, weight joint resolutions the same
as bills.

Thanks for the reminder about that.

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On 05/23/2012 06:37 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
> Sorting on prognosis is a cool idea. Does that mean that bills already
> passed into law will always occur at the top, or the bottom, or...?
>
> You are the last person who needs to hear the definition of resolution
> types, but just to make sure, you'd probably want to only de-weight
> plain resolutions and concurrent resolutions, and not joint resolutions
> (which are bills with the force of law and are signed by the President).
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...
> <mailto:tauberer@...>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>         if you also
>         tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way,
>         is just
>         to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.
>
>
>     Yeah, that is worth a try. I'm now sorting bills on the advanced
>     search by a modified-prognosis score that just omits any boost that
>     post office bills and some other bills get, and also arbitrarily
>     de-weights resolutions.
>
>     http://www.govtrack.us/__congress/bills/browse
>     <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse>
>
>     Think it's more useful than e.g. last action date? Looking at the
>     results I think so but I'm not sure.
>
>     (I guess I could do A/B testing with users but it's so much trouble
>     to be quantitative.)
>
>
>     - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
>     http://razor.occams.info
>
>     On 05/17/2012 11:36 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>         So fun.
>
>         We had a nice (potential) success story at Sunlight the other
>         day here,
>         where we caught
>         <https://twitter.com/#!/__JohnWonderlich/status/__202385148161953793
>         <https://twitter.com/#!/JohnWonderlich/status/202385148161953793>> a
>
>         nasty proposed FOIA exemption in a bill being actively crafted
>         inside
>         the House through our search engine (second item down on this list,
>         right now:
>        
http://scout.__sunlightfoundation.com/search/__federal_bills/section%20552%__20o\
f%20title%205
>        
<http://scout.sunlightfoundation.com/search/federal_bills/section%20552%20of%20t\
itle%205>).
>         It has no official summary, at the time it had no official
>         "short title"
>         yet and was a big paragraph of text...and as you can see my
>         highlighter
>         is failing to even provide an excerpt for that result. John had
>         to open
>         up the official text on GPO and dig through the text to find out
>         why it
>         even came up. This was a very relevant bill, but it was only spotted
>         because it was new and because John is a diligent guy.
>
>         It had been announced for floor activity, and was introduced by the
>         committee chair, so maybe those would help in relevance - if you
>         also
>         tuned out the post office renamings. Maybe that's the only way,
>         is just
>         to filter out specific classes of bills and resolutions.
>
>         -- Eric
>
>         On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Josh Tauberer
>         <tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>
>         <mailto:tauberer@... <mailto:tauberer@...>>> wrote:
>
>             Probably, yeah. Right now the API is based on the Django
>         ORM, which
>             hits MySQL. That's not great for search so I have to see if
>         I can
>             switch it transparently to using Haystack, or else build a
>         separate
>             API for search.
>
>             But document relevance is.... ugh. Two fun facts: The
>             highest-prognosis bills are the dumb ones like post office
>         namings,
>             so that's not good for relevance. And the top visited bills are
>             almost never the ones people should really be looking at, so
>             popularity is bad too. Fun fun.
>
>
>             - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
>         http://razor.occams.info
>
>             On 05/17/2012 11:15 AM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
>
>                 Sweet. Are you going to dive into text search at all?
>         This has
>                 become
>                 the most useful thing to come out of RTC, though I haven't
>                 documented
>                 the search methods publicly yet. It's a hard problem,
>         but you're
>                 developing all sorts of nifty ways of calculating
>         relevance, so
>                 you'd be
>                 in a good position to do it well.
>
>                 -- Eric
>
>                 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Josh Tauberer
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>         wrote:
>
>                     On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>          > Super awesome, really glad to see this happen. Nice job with the
>                     docs,
>          > too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>                     Thanks. I drew on a few ideas from RTC, e.g. I made
>         sure the
>                     infrastructure I chose (Tasypie) supported __[operator]
>                 filtering.
>
>
>          > Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>                     Not yet. The main reason I made it is so when people
>         come to me
>                     asking for CSV exports I have a way to pull them
>         quickly. If
>                 people
>                     want to build actual apps, even better. (Only half
>         joking.)
>
>                     Except that the API is tightly coupled to the site's
>         models,
>                 so I
>                     use it at that level. (Makes it practically
>         self-documenting
>                 too.)
>
>
>
>                     - Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
>
>         http://razor.occams.info
>
>                     On 05/16/2012 11:39 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
>
>
>
>                         Super awesome, really glad to see this happen.
>         Nice job
>                 with the
>                         docs,
>                         too (and a nice reminder to redo and update my own).
>
>                         Are you using this in anything yourself now?
>
>                         -- Eric
>
>                         On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Josh Tauberer
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>                 wrote:
>
>                             I've put this off just about long enough-
>
>                             GovTrack now has an API!
>
>                             Currently bills and people are included in
>         the API.
>                 (Votes and
>                             committees will come later if there's interest.)
>
>                             More here:
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#1064 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2012 11:44 pm
Subject: Heads-up: Vacated vote
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There was another vacated vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll327.xml

So there will be no roll call 327 file on GovTrack.
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#1065 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:15 pm
Subject: FYI- New AZ rep is coming...
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Just a heads-up that the new congressman from AZ isn't in the data yet
so there are a bunch of voting records with missing data. I'm hoping to
get to it by mid-day tomorrow...

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#1066 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Missing committee code on bill jurisdiction
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Eric- Thanks for reporting this bug 15 months ago. :-) It is now fixed.
(Although note that the committee code differs from the House's
committee code because it must have changed at some point on the Clerk's
website.)

The committee was also missing from GovTrack entirely because I had
marked the committee as having been discontinued (obsolete=1 in the
XML). That's now fixed.

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On 03/18/2011 12:07 PM, Eric Mill wrote:
> Small bug report: H.R. 1148 is referred in part to the House Ethics
> committee, and is missing the "HSSO" code to go along with it:
> http://www.govtrack.us/data/us/112/bills/h1148.xml
>
> -- Eric
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#1067 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:20 am
Subject: Important changes to license terms coming [NB/NN edition]
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Dear data re-users,

This is advanced notice that on July 20 I'll be revising the terms of GovTrack's generic license agreement by adding the following paragraph:

* During the time in which your organization is reusing GovTrack's database, your website must block visitors referred by the websites of sponsors of the Netroots Nation conference. If you make the data available in bulk to others, your license agreement must carry over the same terms.

In techPresident today, Netroots Nation's executive director Raven Brooks encouraged progressive advocacy groups to boycott NationBuilder, a non-partisan technology platform that helps campaigns build their websites, because NationBuilder sells services to right-leaning organizations. There's a complicated history here that's touched on in the techPresident article (http://techpresident.com/news/22556/nationbuilders-mammoth-deal-state-level-republican-committee-sparks-calls-boycott), but Brooks's point seems to boil down to a belief that there can be no nonpartisan political tools.

GovTrack, and most tools that reuse its database, is a nonpartisan tool that has played an important role in political activism over the last several years on both sides of the political aisle. It is astonishing to me that anyone would think that technology infrastructure should choose sides. Especially since it appears that the sponsors of past Netroots Nations conferences have been users of nonpartisan political technology platforms like GovTrack. If they are going to boycott tools like GovTrack, they certainly won't notice the change to GovTrack's license terms.

Your feedback on these changes is welcome, especially if the feedback is in the style of satire. But this isn't a joke. Ridiculous boycotts of technology startups require ridiculous responses.

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#1068 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: Important changes to license terms coming [NB/NN edition]
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Well I got the feedback I was asking for on these license changes!

Here's the short story. Starting tomorrow this will be added to the generic license agreement:

You may not disparage services for being nonpartisan.
( http://www.govtrack.us/developers/license)


This is pretty inert compared to my original idea. It binds what you say, as a licensee. It doesn't require changes to your site or tool, or their terms of service for end users. I don't know of any licensee that was among those attacking NationBuilder, but I don't know everyone that uses GovTrack data.

If this is a problem for anyone, we can talk about entering into a special agreement. (Though I would in general prefer not to.) Or we can talk about how you can help make the scraper source code more reusable. The scraper code is open source (although at the moment it isn't linked from the website because no one's ever wanted it).

More background in my follow-up blog post:
http://www.govtrack.us/blog/2012/07/19/data-license-changes-take-two/

Thanks everyone,

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On 07/12/2012 09:20 PM, Josh Tauberer wrote:
Dear data re-users,

This is advanced notice that on July 20 I'll be revising the terms of GovTrack's generic license agreement by adding the following paragraph:

* During the time in which your organization is reusing GovTrack's database, your website must block visitors referred by the websites of sponsors of the Netroots Nation conference. If you make the data available in bulk to others, your license agreement must carry over the same terms.

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GovTrack, and most tools that reuse its database, is a nonpartisan tool that has played an important role in political activism over the last several years on both sides of the political aisle. It is astonishing to me that anyone would think that technology infrastructure should choose sides. Especially since it appears that the sponsors of past Netroots Nations conferences have been users of nonpartisan political technology platforms like GovTrack. If they are going to boycott tools like GovTrack, they certainly won't notice the change to GovTrack's license terms.

Your feedback on these changes is welcome, especially if the feedback is in the style of satire. But this isn't a joke. Ridiculous boycotts of technology startups require ridiculous responses.

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#1069 From: Aaron Swartz <me@...>
Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Important changes to license terms coming [NB/NN edition]
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You may not disparage services for being nonpartisan.
( http://www.govtrack.us/developers/license)

In response to your original license draft, I told friends in the progressive movement that partisan services tend to be more poorly-built than nonpartisan ones and, therefore, by acting so vehemently against NationBuilder, they would reduce the quality of tools available to them. This morning, I further observed that, on the flip side, this means that if the entire progressive movement refused to use NationBuilder, it would effectively be forced to be a partisan service, and that would probably make the product worse than it otherwise would be and thereby keep better tools out of the hands of their political opponents. Does that qualify as disparagement under the license?

#1070 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: Important changes to license terms coming [NB/NN edition]
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I don't see where in there you are being disparaging, let alone for NB being nonpartisan. You're basically just repeating NB's business model --- selling to everyone is better.

Feel free to rephrase if I didn't understand.

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On 07/22/2012 09:50 AM, Aaron Swartz wrote:

You may not disparage services for being nonpartisan.
( http://www.govtrack.us/developers/license)

In response to your original license draft, I told friends in the progressive movement that partisan services tend to be more poorly-built than nonpartisan ones and, therefore, by acting so vehemently against NationBuilder, they would reduce the quality of tools available to them. This morning, I further observed that, on the flip side, this means that if the entire progressive movement refused to use NationBuilder, it would effectively be forced to be a partisan service, and that would probably make the product worse than it otherwise would be and thereby keep better tools out of the hands of their political opponents. Does that qualify as disparagement under the license?



#1071 From: "kmustatea" <kmustatea@...>
Date: Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:27 pm
Subject: API Method calls
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Dear GovTrack,

I'm having some trouble with some of the API methods.

This seems to be a successful call:
http://www.govtrack.us/api/v1/bill/?congress=112&order_by=-current_status_date&o\
ffset=20

However this is not:
http://www.govtrack.us/api/v1/bill/?congress=112&order_by=-current_status_date&o\
ffset=20&bill_type=house_bill

So filtering results by bill_type does not seem to work as expected. The trouble
seems to be with any parameters which do not have a * or ** next to them in the
API documentation. Is a different format required for these parameters? Or are
they just not available yet through the API?

Many thanks for any clarification you can provide.

#1072 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: API Method calls
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Hi,

The backend is probably missing the conversion from the string constant
to the proper numeric constant used in the database. I'll take a look.

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On 08/06/2012 12:27 PM, kmustatea wrote:
> Dear GovTrack,
>
> I'm having some trouble with some of the API methods.
>
> This seems to be a successful call:
>
http://www.govtrack.us/api/v1/bill/?congress=112&order_by=-current_status_date&o\
ffset=20
>
> However this is not:
>
http://www.govtrack.us/api/v1/bill/?congress=112&order_by=-current_status_date&o\
ffset=20&bill_type=house_bill
>
> So filtering results by bill_type does not seem to work as expected. The
trouble seems to be with any parameters which do not have a * or ** next to them
in the API documentation. Is a different format required for these parameters?
Or are they just not available yet through the API?
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> Many thanks for any clarification you can provide.
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#1073 From: "Francis" <favila@...>
Date: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:06 pm
Subject: RDF ontologies or vocabularies for US government
francisgavila
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I'm looking for any existing RDF ontologies or vocabularies for US
government stuff, in particular for bills, political persons (e.g. those
with bioguide IDs), and government agencies and bureaus. Does anyone
know of any or where I might look for them? (I'm hoping not to reinvent
the wheel.)

For example, Josh Tauberer many years ago created several rdf ontologies
for some work he did on rdf-izing his scraped govtrack data. I am aware
of three:

usgov http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/usgovt/
pol http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/politico/
bill http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/usbill/

There is still rdf data available that uses these at
http://www.govtrack.us/data/rdf/, but the ontology descriptions are
gone. (Each of the urls above redirects to a sparql endpoint
http://www.rdfabout.com/sparql which appears to be dead.)

#1074 From: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@...>
Date: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: RDF ontologies or vocabularies for US government
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Hey, Francis.

I just copied the schemas into a new directory here:
http://www.govtrack.us/data/rdf/schemas/

(They actually never were at those URLs. This was before linked data was really a thing, so it wasn't expected that your URIs actually did anything.)

Besides that, the only relevant work I know of and can remember is at http://oegov.org/.

There is some interest at HHS and at two other agencies in developing an ontology of exec. branch agencies. For the new healthdata.gov, I minted URIs for the top-level agencies within HHS. I don't have the ontology handy, but you can see an example at http://hub.healthdata.gov/dataset/2008-basic-stand-alone-carrier and scroll down to the author_id field. For instance, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services is:

   http://healthdata.gov/id/agency/cms

But we didn't get up to putting anything at that URL. Other people on the HealthData.gov team are actively working on some other related angles.
- Josh Tauberer (@JoshData)
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On 08/28/2012 02:06 PM, Francis wrote:
I'm looking for any existing RDF ontologies or vocabularies for US
government stuff, in particular for bills, political persons (e.g. those
with bioguide IDs), and government agencies and bureaus. Does anyone
know of any or where I might look for them? (I'm hoping not to reinvent
the wheel.)
For example, Josh Tauberer many years ago created several rdf ontologies
for some work he did on rdf-izing his scraped govtrack data. I am aware
of three:
usgov http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/usgovt/
pol http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/politico/
bill http://www.rdfabout.com/rdf/schema/usbill/
There is still rdf data available that uses these at
http://www.govtrack.us/data/rdf/, but the ontology descriptions are
gone. (Each of the urls above redirects to a sparql endpoint
http://www.rdfabout.com/sparql which appears to be dead.)
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