Bill et al, I don't agree that this topic is played out. I was hoping there might be some interest in it from others but I guess not. My main point would be...
Don and Bill Since you are reaching the end of your topic of the church, may I come in at this conclusion; with my own personal beliefs on the subject. I have...
Rory Egan
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Jul 3, 2004 12:50 am
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Well Rory , I have read your good post and greet it with No amount of " distain " because of the Words found in the Gospel of John 4:20-26 the discourse with...
Rory I think you are on target here and that what you are saying is pretty much what I am saying though, perhaps, looking at it from a different angle.The...
... to the topic or move on to another one. ... Fred sez: That be what I was a tryin ta do Bill , with my reference to John chapter 4 in my post , I agree ,...
"If the Son make you free you will be free indeed." A Happy Independance Day to all fellow Yanks out there. To our cousins on the other side-No taxation...
Bill, As I'm sure you realise, Bill, July 4th represents nothing for us Brits but the rebellion of some uppity colonials( :-)). Watch out though, it might...
Hi Bill & John & everyone else, We do have freedom in the west, compared to many other parts of the world. I see that freedom as being curtailed by those who...
Stephen McIntosh
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Jul 5, 2004 7:34 pm
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Bill et al, And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free This eighth Chapter of John is the only place I am aware of that the writer uses the...
"us Brits"? You gramatical usage figures you for a Yank, John. Speaking of which, please excuse my not so "Happey" spelling in the subject line. (It was late) ...
Don, Let me go in a different direction and say that the Son of God liberates a soul that believes. Liberation is not a transfer of the burden from one 'task...
Stephen McIntosh
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Jul 6, 2004 3:19 am
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Stephen, I don't see how this is a different direction except that I went further. Or are you saying that one has no responsibilities once one believes. Can...
Don, You are right on the mark. With our service to The Master comes life. With sin, it's end result is death. One can do as one pleases once saved, but the ...
Stephen McIntosh
sgmci@...
Jul 6, 2004 12:20 pm
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Don, Thank you for this beautiful reflection on freedom. I didn't know the nuances of the Greek word that we call "freedom" in English. It is well worth...
Stephen, It is one of the mysteries of John's gospel that Jesus does not pray for the unconverted world. The nearest he gets is praying for "those who will...
... which the whole creation groaneth - that's for me!!< I like this thought Stephen . True freedom sometimes may be thought of as not so much the freedom to...
Vicki, Thanks and I'm glad my thoughts were helpful to you. Your thoughts about Pontius Pilate are right on the mark and I thank you for them. They are well...
Hi Fred (and I'm sure Rory is lurking in the shadows), Fred said: What we label " The Church " should be an aid to this goal and not an end in itself . Stephen...
Stephen McIntosh
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Jul 8, 2004 2:30 am
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... purpose of God in the present age. This church body is the company of believers formed of both Jews and gentiles who are called out of the world and joined...
Fred and Stephen, Glad you two have sorted this out. What with Fred saying the church was not an end in itself, and Stephen saying it was, I was wondering for...
... Glad you two have sorted this out. What with Fred saying the church was not an end in itself, and Stephen saying it was, I was wondering for a while which...
Stephen, You said: Jesus says in His prayer to the Father, I pray for them I do not pray for the world, but for those whom Thou hast given me, because they are...
Hey John! I am also jumping on the bandwagon of talking 'to' you while you are not here. For the age we now live in, the church is God's vehicle, though not in...
Stephen McIntosh
sgmci@...
Jul 9, 2004 4:07 am
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... betray Christ ... I do not believe in pre-destination by God . Foreknowledge , I do not belive is the same thing . God has foreknowledge . A person may go...
Don I would have to disagree with your guess. My view of the Lord is a lot larger, He needed not to add a special focus on His disciples, because He KNEW...
Rory Egan
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Jul 9, 2004 1:13 pm
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Rory, I would say my God is hugely biiiiiigger than yours!!! Want to fight over it? I'm trying to decide what you are saying but I don't know what it is. I'm ...
Don and Rory, In a certain sense I would go the opposite way from saying that Jesus had foreknowledge but did not predestinate salvation. Jesus' knowledge was...
... forknowledge. If you think very much about either one of these you discover contradictions, paradoxes and puzzles that boggle the mind. When we are into...
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