Hello Bill, The unusual thing about the text, if it came from the disciple John, is its greek cultural ideas. This would be alien to a Jewish tradition from ...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Dec 9, 2012 8:44 pm
I have to disagree Tom. Admittedly I am getting a bit over my head here scholastically but I believe it is clearly a 1st century Jewish production. Perhaps if...
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johnestaton
Dec 10, 2012 6:01 pm
Bill is correct, here. Greek Culture began to influence Palestine from about the time of Alexander the Great onwards, and even the Maccabean revolt did not...
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Tom
tom@...
Dec 10, 2012 10:08 pm
Hello All, It seems to be the position held by many scholars that the apparently hellenistic influences (dualisms, the 'signs'...) could be accounted for ...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Dec 25, 2012 7:34 pm
Merry Christmas to all our members across the Globe! He is the true Light which is coming into the world. Bill Skelton, Pacific Crossroads Church, Los Angeles...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Dec 25, 2012 7:57 pm
Question to end the year- and start the new one: Why is it "the true light which is "coming" rather than "came"? I think we talked a bit about this in the past...
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Calvin McCain
charlottemccain@...
Dec 26, 2012 4:46 am
... From: William Skelton To: gospel_of_john@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Gosp_John] Christmas Question to end the...
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Light
neville1215
Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am
Are we not like the moon to the sun? He is the true light, the real light. If we are faithful we reflect the light of the Son. Neville (England). Â Â Â ... ...
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Light
neville1215
Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am
John 1:9 says: "The real light that enlightens every man was even then coming into the world." (New English Bible). Â If "even then" refers to the time of the...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Dec 27, 2012 1:51 am
Howdy Neville, Calvin et al In checking Raymond Brown's commentary after yesterday's post, Brown seemed to understand it to mean that the Light or Logos was in...
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Arnold Delight
zelootes
Dec 27, 2012 2:15 pm
i have read the text and considered the contributions. i think that the light has been in the world but with the incarnation of the the eternal word, it comes...
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johnestaton
Dec 27, 2012 2:29 pm
The Greek imperfect implies a process - "was coming" - but how long did that process take? The process could have started at creation, but was not complete...
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WJBill_49
Dec 28, 2012 1:45 am
Calvin ... I be, be I? I must be the ace of something. Bill...
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David Hall
dqhall59
Dec 29, 2012 1:15 pm
Jesus' enlightenment intensified. John 8:12. David Q. Hall ________________________________ From: WJBill_49 <WJbill_49@...> To:...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
Jan 1, 2013 12:18 am
A happy New Year to all listmembers. Best Wishes -- JOHN E STATON (BA Sheffield; DipTheol. Bristol) Hull, UK www.christianreflection.org.uk...
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Emory Davis, Jr
egrantdavis@...
Jan 2, 2013 2:26 am
To all, this is Emory Davis. I was finally able to facilitate access through my new email address. Looking forward to a blessed year and good discussion. Rev...
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Emory Davis, Jr
emorygdavis
Feb 6, 2013 6:54 pm
I have been doing some study and rereading of the I John and I think we talked about this as much as a couple of years ago but, was there any conversation as...
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Matthew
matt_estrada
Feb 7, 2013 1:58 am
Hello Emory, From my own studies, I believe that the gospel of John was written first and then the letters. I base this opinion on the symbolic meaning of...
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Emory Davis, Jr
emorygdavis
Feb 7, 2013 2:35 am
Matt, long time. I shifted ISP to Gmail so I lost some time. It happened that our Sr. Pastor was doing an overview of the Epistles and I got the sense, right...
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johnestaton
Feb 7, 2013 9:32 am
Hi, Emory, I like the position of the late Martin Hengel, which allows one to have one's cake and eat it! Professor Hengel suggested the Gospel was the fruit...
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Emory Davis, Jr
emorygdavis
Feb 7, 2013 4:02 pm
Hello John, good to hear from you after some time. I agree that the Epistle were the "inter-office memo" constructed to take care of an immediate situation....
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Feb 9, 2013 9:10 pm
Hengel's theory sounds plausible. Â Bill ... From: johnestaton <john.staton@...> Subject: [Gosp_John] Re: First Letter Attributed to John To:...
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Emory Davis, Jr
emorygdavis
Feb 9, 2013 10:19 pm
It is the "polishing" of ideas in the 4G that seem more likely than anything else. I'll go with that. Emory ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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David Hall
dqhall59
Feb 9, 2013 10:46 pm
I think we have something that may have been altered during copying. In the Fourth Gospel Jesus went to Jerusalem to cast out the money changers changing...
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johnestaton
Feb 10, 2013 11:54 am
My memory sometimes confuses Martin Hengel's "The Johannine Question" and Richard Bauckham's "Jesus and the Eyewitnesses", but one of them argues, quite...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Feb 10, 2013 6:18 pm
John et al  Raymond Brown had an interesting idea that Jesus may have made His prophetic statements in the early time frame that John ascribes (the...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Feb 11, 2013 12:53 am
Hi Folks  Please ignore my reference to Jeremiah. I was confusing the reference with something else. ... From: William Skelton <WJbill_49@...> Subject:...
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johnestaton
Feb 11, 2013 9:30 am
Certainly, Jesus may have said the words about destroying the temple and raising it up early, and John records the temple cleansing here so as to group...
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David Hall
dqhall59
Feb 11, 2013 4:15 pm
I agree with you John. The authorities would have tried to eliminate Jesus after he challenged their authority to sell sacrificial animals in the temple. ...
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William Skelton
WJBill_49
Feb 18, 2013 5:15 am
Leaving aside the question of the timing of the Lord's action in temple what can we say about what He was trying to accomplish by doing what He did? Jewish...
