<<To verbalize understanding of the difference in one message, and elsewhere ask what is a creator if not a creator,>> Where did I ask *what is a creator if...
I forgot to add: <<Even within the context of our discussions, "orthodox" can have a generic meaning (straight- or right-thinking), or a specific one (such as...
Steve, Part of the motivation for my wanting to explore the "2nd Speech" at Masada is that it seems to share a space in the "transitional" period during which ...
... Dear George; Well, yes, I do see where you are coming from on that. Its difficult to say whether gnosticism in its incipient forms was originally of Jewish...
Steve, You write: "What do you think; is Gnosticism to be seen as primarily Jewish or pagan in origin?" Such a good question! Naturally, I'm still in an...
Hello everyone, I was just curious if anyone here was aware of a particular Gnostic reading for exousia? This word is used in the New Testament to refer to...
... Hello, George. For consideration, …. another view of Shaye Cohen's about Josephus's intentions having more to do with literary and polemical purposes...
... George, maybe we need to backtrack a bit first. Reading your posts, I see an overwhelming proclivity to define Gnosticism based on a negative worldview,...
... reading ... the special ... to a ... seems to ... dynamis ("powers ... end, when ... rule and ... was ... I know of ... esoteric ... Hi, Tony. I'm not...
Dear Lady Caritas, I'm certainly moved by the persuasive discussion comparing one alleged event of "group suicide" with another alleged event. But I have to...
Cari, You write: " So, IOW, do we see "full-blown" Gnostics having "roots" in pagan or ... Such a good question! But I believe there has been a "triangle of...
... or ... within ... Dear George; I tend to think that our best bet in tracing gnostic thought would be to look at the history of Orphism in Hellenic culture....
Hi Everybody! Excuse me for jumping in media res, but I could remain silent no longer when Steve said, "I know that many people would like to trace pagan...
Hello Cari, Jumping into the fray, << So, IOW, do we see "full-blown" Gnostics having "roots" in pagan or Jewish traditions in a conventional sense, or do we...
thank you for your thought Terje. this war is about demiurge extending his power. (remember Rome never died) and I'm surprised that no one here has commented...
Hi sorry to butt in but... ... without someone else dying for us. ... and selective god, but who cares-at least WE're saved if we but believe in Him. ... I...
... Hello, Ernst. If I may butt in, too... I think Gerry was offering definitions for what developed into a more dogmatic, pistic "orthodox" Christianity,...
... particular ... thought ... kind ... tried ... Ah, so soon they forget... LOL Ernst, I think she was referring to me with an extra "r" and "e". Cari P. S....
... The original sin is a vulgarised version of the Gnosticistic topic of the fall of the soul into matter. Augustinus plaggiated it from Manicheus. Long...
Steve, You write: "I tend to think that our best bet in tracing gnostic thought would ... Nice thought! Let me see what the other posts about this might have...
Fred, I enjoyed your post about the "Amarna Period" as a time when the cross section of various forces might have initiated Gnosticism or Proto-Gnosticism. I...
Toni, I am familiar with the idea that there was a strong eastern component to Gnosticism. What is the oldest "Eastern" attestation to "the body - a tomb" type...
... Okay, George, let's cut to the chase and just talk theology as seen in this Masada speech. I'll offer my biased, nonacademic opinion (although certainly ...