... Jungian Psychoanalysis did not exist in classical times, true. However, Carl Gustav Jung would have been the last to proclaim that the gnostics or even...
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pmcvflag
Aug 2, 2002 3:34 am
"Yes, I admit it, I am proselytizing historical gnosticism" Nope, there is no such thing... "Gnosticism" is something modern scholors created to categorize a...
6426
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 2, 2002 6:47 pm
<<"Yes, I admit it, I am proselytizing historical gnosticism">> <<Nope, there is no such thing... "Gnosticism" is something modern scholors created to...
6427
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 2, 2002 7:24 pm
... <<Never said I didn't like it, just that it would be conceptually imperfect if taken at face value>> Onto the important matter at hand. What exactly do you...
6428
pmcvflag
Aug 2, 2002 9:29 pm
Incognito... ... Very true. Sarcasm doesn't work well online, so I avoid it. ... themselves as gnostics? If so, what then is the basis for your claim ...
6429
pmcvflag
Aug 2, 2002 10:37 pm
... this, face value, literally, etc? Merely resorting to the claim that it's a mystery beyond our dualistic language and realms and trying to limit it to such...
6430
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 2, 2002 11:12 pm
Okay, good post, but <<You could of course argue "well but I gain my Knowing internally just as they did, and it is by connection with the devine". Fine, but I...
6431
pmcvflag
Aug 2, 2002 11:32 pm
... With or without it's historical con-text? ... quote the sources to back it up. Which you have but I disagree with you and have explained specifically why...
6432
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 2, 2002 11:36 pm
<<The polemicists tell us that the Barbelo-ites talk about "a God that does not exist" as the source.>> Which polemicists? The heresiologicists? Well, golleee...
6433
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 2, 2002 11:46 pm
<<>My "revelation" is from reading "their texts".< <<With or without it's historical con-text? ... By all means provide some if you think it's pertinent to the...
6434
pmcvflag
Aug 3, 2002 1:33 am
... by "you're not getting it" and why it's important.< Since you already know the whole truth, if I disagree I must "not be getting it" huh? ... It isn't.......
6435
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 3, 2002 8:03 am
Who said I knew the whole truth? And who said you did? And this is not about disagreement as it is about we're arguing from entirely different angles. And your...
6436
pmcvflag
Aug 3, 2002 11:17 am
... (that ... Not only was it confusing in that way, but you also failed to seperate the parts that were quotes from Ernst's post, and the parts that I was...
6437
Gerry
gerryhsp
Aug 5, 2002 4:13 pm
Reply to Incognito Lightbringer’s post #6427: Well, hello there, Ms. Incognito! Haven’t heard from you since Thanksgiving. I hope you’ve been well. My...
6438
ernststrohregenmantel...
ernststrohre...
Aug 6, 2002 5:49 am
... I must interject here although this post may not be posted. I NEVER stated "al_Nadim also states that Manicheans hated Jesus". This statement was clearly...
6439
pmcvflag
Aug 6, 2002 5:55 am
... That part was indeed mine... however Ms M posted the whole section as mine. I also posted exactly where An-Nadim stated that, so anyone can verify the...
6440
incognito_lightbringer
incognito_li...
Aug 6, 2002 10:19 am
Hi Gerry, I was wondering where you were! How are you? Like my new moniker? << I continue to have qualms when that imperfect language of ours seems to...
6441
gerryhsp
Aug 7, 2002 4:18 pm
... Doing much better, thanks. You can call yourself whatever you like, m'dear. Just glad to have you around. ... Yeah, I figured it would be hard to have...
6442
alexis johnson
blackfire_al
Aug 7, 2002 9:05 pm
Not to interrupt the intense debate but now for a moment of light comic relief: This is in response to Ernst post 6368 concerning female "sexual arrosment" ...
6443
gerryhsp
Aug 8, 2002 12:23 am
... arrosment" ... arrosment"???.... Interrupt anytime, Blackfire, humorously or otherwise. It's good to hear from you. And weren't you relieved to see that...
6444
pessoa22000
Aug 8, 2002 7:00 pm
... Antinomian includes both encratite and libertine. Both violate the Torah. ... It may still be encratite christian gnostic, e.g. satornilean or cassianite. ...
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Terje Dahl Bergersen
terjedb
Aug 8, 2002 10:00 pm
... I beg to differ, and moreover, taking the clue from the post you replied to.. If I used that criteria I would find it difficult to make a writing...
6446
rwr
somerset1001
Aug 8, 2002 11:38 pm
[Gnosticism] Re: Define the term for meHello all, I AM new here. The so called 'Sophia Myth' is not really a myth at all, nor symbolic as are orthodox...
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AJRoberti@...
troberti
Aug 9, 2002 11:31 am
Hello Klaus Schilling, Me: <snip> ... << One can't decide that from those formal arguments about its vocabulary. >> That depends on how you define "Gnostic." ...
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rwr
somerset1001
Aug 9, 2002 2:17 pm
THE WATCHER AT THE GATES OF DAWN (Synetic dialogue) I am the watcher at the gates of dawn where there is no eve, no noon, or morn. I do not think, but float...
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rwr
somerset1001
Aug 9, 2002 2:19 pm
... From: rwr To: gnosis284@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: [gnosis284] Questions (and answers) of spiritual reality. Tobey...
6450
pmcvflag
Aug 9, 2002 8:27 pm
Weclome new members... ... earmarks, many of which have their roots in Judaism, and many of which have their roots in Hellenic philosophy.< And for the record,...
6451
pmcvflag
Aug 9, 2002 8:31 pm
Ditto to Terje's post. There are plenty of instances where non- Valintinian sources meantion Sophia, and in grand mythological fashion. PMCV ... specifically ...
6452
wilbro99
Aug 10, 2002 4:55 pm
Hi Flag, I come in peace, as usual. I am still crawling through the web in search of a picture of what Gnosticism is. As is my wont, I always decide that the...
6453
wilbro99
Aug 10, 2002 8:18 pm
Sorry about the site reference. It seems to be empty. Google up "gnosticism, varieties" and find the "lost sheep" site (about 7th down). ... realization ... ...
