Hey Crispin As promised I went back and looked at the three posts in question (one of yours and two of mine). Before that, though, I wanted to add.... ... part...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 12:32 am
Hey Debbie ... enough knowledge of Valentinian or Sethian gnostics (more study). But i understand that your question about modernising refers to what you call...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 12:56 am
Hey George ... provided on the home page. I'm not suggesting we *change* the wording. But I do think we should amplify our understanding of what the definition...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 2:44 am
PMCV, You conclude your post with this attempt to getting on the same page: "The groups historians label as "Gnostics"; had a special meaning for the word...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 2:45 am
PMCV, You write: " "3) It lacks the destinctive definition for the word "Gnosis" that ... I don't find this very convincing. Why? Because gnosis is just ...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 3:12 am
George ... another word for "enlightenment"... for finding the divine in yourself. I find no difference between this and what the early Christian church said...
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imdarkchylde
Jul 21, 2006 12:22 pm
... is ... the ... with ... us ... editions. ... a ... I ... more ... So, ... Mike> ... system ... Sorry so late getting in on this, but a fried modem and a...
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Michael Leavitt
gnositc
Jul 21, 2006 3:29 pm
... I can't escape the feeling he is baiting you or trolling one....
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 4:43 pm
PMCV, I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with your requirement of citing various gnostic groups. I avoid naming specific gnostic groups intentionally....
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 5:13 pm
Mike ... Yes Mike, we do know he is trolling. Though you are the first to say it here in the forum, you are actually the fourth person to point it out. Usually...
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imdarkchylde
Jul 21, 2006 6:21 pm
... would ... or ... existed ... is ... would ... I will try, although expanding on my ideas sometimes seems to offend. I meant if you believe (or think or...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 6:22 pm
PMCV, Excuse me ladies and gentlemen. I offer no false credentials. I referred to myself as an historian, not a professional historian, or a professor. I have...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 6:22 pm
George ... citing various gnostic groups. I avoid naming specific gnostic groups intentionally. I seek to examine the common underlying premises of the ancient...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 6:23 pm
Ooops. I forgot to emphatically say that I am an AMATEUR historian. I have a masters degree in a field that is COMPLETELY irrelevant to studies in ancient...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 6:39 pm
Michael, You write: "I can't escape the feeling he [George/Historynow2002] is baiting you or trolling one." I think you feel this way because these are...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 6:47 pm
George ... I referred to myself as an historian, not a professional historian, or a professor.<<< Ok, we can accept that, with the addition you added in a...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 7:23 pm
George ... as being acceptable to the orthodox fathers. If a list member knows of one, please let me know. I would be very interested in researching the...
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imdarkchylde
Jul 21, 2006 10:00 pm
... just ... the ... outline ... answer ... subject ... My Goodness! Why must we seek to divide rather than to unite? I think George has a valid point, and I...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 10:06 pm
PMCV, You write: "Clement and Origin both refer to themselves as gnostic, pointing out that the others are only false pretenders to the term." FIRST: Could you...
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George
historynow2002
Jul 21, 2006 10:07 pm
PMCV You write: "We will assume that what appeared to be a claim was just a bit of an oversite." And I will assume that this comment is made in all sincerity. ...
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lady_caritas
Jul 21, 2006 10:08 pm
... as "Gnostic". ... a ... Second ... the ... I ... so ... Hi, Darkchlyde. I'm think I'm finally caught up on posts today so far. Whew. Gnosis "in all its...
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pmcvflag
Jul 21, 2006 11:16 pm
George ... "Clement and Origin both refer to themselves as gnostic, pointing out that the others are only false pretenders to the term." FIRST: Could you offer...
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pmcvflag
Jul 22, 2006 1:14 am
George ... Yes, and understand that even though I may say things like "you are misunderstanding this word", or "you are not using correct historical...
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dale wilson
sissydale2000
Jul 22, 2006 3:18 pm
Why is it so hard to find a gnostic church in the Charlotte area of NC? Does anyone know of one anywhere, even remotely close to this area?...
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Gerry
gerryhsp
Jul 22, 2006 11:50 pm
... NC? I trust that your question is more the result of frustration than surprise. I mean … from one Tar Heel to another, I'll concede that "the goodliest...
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imdarkchylde
Jul 23, 2006 6:03 pm
... out ... even ... point ... that ... in ... salvation, ... quality ... unicorns ... work ... category, ... A ... If ... different ... pull ... how ... OF ...
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gnostic_ken
Jul 25, 2006 4:04 am
... I ... system ... given. ... though ... really ... that ... do ... Hi PMCV, I was going to answer your question, but now that I reread your post I see I...
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imdarkchylde
Jul 25, 2006 2:13 pm
Tried to post this once but it didn't go through. <..no one here has really explained WHY they think the way they do..> I thought when we did it was...
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lady_caritas
Jul 25, 2006 2:47 pm
... do..> ... Darkchylde, any trolling references by others were regarding *one* member only and that misunderstanding was addressed here: ...
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Nick Lawrance
nicholsonlaw...
Jul 25, 2006 7:52 pm
From Darkchylde I will try, although expanding on my ideas sometimes seems to offend. I meant if you believe (or think or have come-to-the-conclusion) that the...
