... Now that I've found the quote again, I'm not sure that he's not simply pointing out the need for the pneumatics to meet privately for the more specialized...
... Indeed, Bob, I think that Valentinus had a unique relationship with his group, just as both he and his school had early on with the greater community of...
... Given the relative paucity of firsthand Gnostic material available to us, it's pretty much a given that we will find ourselves synthesizing information...
... Crispin, I think I would carry that assertion even further. After all, wouldn't "secrecy" be characteristic of any esoteric system? Of course, regarding...
... Of course, regarding my original comments, I wasn't so much questioning the *private* portion of Valentinian services as I was the involvement of their...
... Yes ..but as you mentioned "As David Brons mentioned in his essay on the organization of the Valentinian church, it seems that Valentinians didn't really...
Hello Gerry. It's not possible for a person to choose who is and who is not the recipients of gifts from God. They come from God alone. Luci ... Crispin, I...
yes, but my point was that some people have an awakening gift that others do not i would think the point of the secrecy of some groups was to protect innocent...
... Should we give a box of matches and a gallon of gasoline to a child? -- By working the soil we cultivate good manners Is to say "please" and "thank you" ...
... Of course, David Brons was referring only to the Valentinians, not other Gnostics like, oh, Sethians, for instance. but I dont ... I don't hear anyone...
... right the secrecy was as much to protect the group from "witch finders" but more so to protect those that weren't simply ready yet.... You don't give...
... http://www.answers.com/ Members wore stones or gems cut in various symbolic forms, such as the heads of fowl and serpents. The Basilideans worshipped a...
... Say, Ben, again, no one is screaming here. We're just seeking some accurate information and sometimes a glimpse of truth. I find it all interesting,...
SHrug..."a phantom sent to earth" a bit like magic floating sperm in the spirit realm waiting to incarnate....as opposed to God...but then that is a split...
... sometimes the people don't know what to do to help them and that it interrupts their spiritual evolution because they have no point of relevance. So I...
God is God. Luci ... sometimes the people don't know what to do to help them and that it interrupts their spiritual evolution because they have no point of ...
God is all things limited and unlimited. The creator was left in charge, the temple guardian. Everything in creation is not perfect, there is only one...
... charge, the temple guardian. Everything in creation is not perfect, there is only one perfection. Like a thief, in the rabbinical sense, a helper, you give...
... No God is not always God....to a Gnostic most worship the Demi Urge...this is like "worshipping" God's leg..or his left eyeball...a PART not the ...
... THere is much diofference Luci.....There were 2 trees in eden.....do you really require a lkong drawn out explanation of why magic is not mysticism? magick...
This is nice luci...but however I dont think it is Gnostic ... -- By working the soil we cultivate good manners Is to say "please" and "thank you" Especially...
Hey all, I'm back from my long time away. I'm still a bit tired from the last few days on planes, trains, and in cars, but I am excited to get back into...
Ben ... I wanted to add to that statement. In this particular forum we are very careful to define what is Gnostic using the historical and academic outlines...
... Ok I was merely using this to illustrate the 2 ideas...that of Jesus the Christ...God...or Jesus tha magician who got special cosmic sperm to enter ...
... Ok ...its interesting yes....but I seek to do more than merely study...so I really dont see the point of spending a great deal of energy on somthing you ...
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