It's nice to see NASA has finally gone out on a limb and announced after a mere two years longer than they originally expected. I find it ironic that it took...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 3, 2009 3:32 pm
Tell the rest of the story! The essence of the "natural" change concerned North America (Not the world) and accounted for close to half of the warming. They...
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poitsplace
Apr 3, 2009 7:13 pm
Ugh, it's so very hard to shoehorn complex concepts into people's perceptions. I watch them repeatedly derail their thought processes on things that cancel...
16727
poitsplace
Apr 3, 2009 8:20 pm
It's important to note that sea level change is most related to thermal expansion. If you'll check out the actual data you'll find that sea level "rise" stops...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 3, 2009 10:47 pm
...Europe basked in unusually warm weather in medieval times, but why has been open to debate. Now the natural climate mechanism that caused the mild spell...
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poitsplace
Apr 4, 2009 8:45 am
It's just more of the same old AGW "science". Think about it, if the PDO/AMO affects temperature NOW, what exactly do you think a super-strong version of it...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 4, 2009 1:59 pm
The PDO/AMO does not change the heat content of the earth, it just redistributes it. It can be nothing but a short termed event....
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poitsplace
Apr 6, 2009 6:00 am
You wouldn't think it could do it for 60 years, yet it (or whatever drives it) does just that. It's just one of those inconvenient things you'll have to...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 6, 2009 12:47 pm
It has also been suggested that changes in atmospheric temperature during the 1990s influenced the change in Jakobshavn Isbræ behaviour. Analysis of such air...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 6, 2009 3:25 pm
Using natural records going back about 1,000 years, the scientists were able to pinpoint causes of Europe's Medieval warm spell, and they can show that the...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 6, 2009 4:44 pm
But scientists have not been able to validate orbital changes, increase of sun's output, ocean currents or other internal climactic conditions, or changes in...
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poitsplace
Apr 6, 2009 6:18 pm
And yet the claims made by AGW proponents are physically impossible if it's cooling or even leveling off. There is no question that they're wrong about the...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 6, 2009 9:44 pm
Easterling, D. R., and M. F. Wehner (2009), Is the climate warming or cooling? Geophys. Res. Lett., doi:10.1029/2009GL037810, in press. [PDF] (accepted 30...
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poitsplace
Apr 6, 2009 11:25 pm
LOL, it's amazing how people have been caught up in this absurd illusion of exponential or even linear temperature increase. That's essentially what the...
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poitsplace
Apr 7, 2009 12:59 am
Oops, meant linear to exponential increases from CO2...in case that wasn't obvious ...as well as the lack of cyclic climate fluctuations in these stupid...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 7, 2009 11:07 am
Climate Change Antarctic ice bridge pinning ice shelf shatters (0) April 5, 2009, 10:59 An ice bridge which had apparently held a vast Antarctic ice shelf in...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 7, 2009 3:45 pm
Arctic sea ice is not only shrinking in coverage area; it's also thinning, according to a report and satellite images jointly released on Monday by NASA and...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 7, 2009 6:44 pm
Dear all, I've uploaded a cool toy. The GFDL IPCC climate model output projected onto the globe for google earth. Enjoy. Ken...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 7, 2009 6:45 pm
It's only a cycle. In how they respond that is. Next up, warming is good for us....
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poitsplace
Apr 8, 2009 12:27 am
... There is no question that part of it is a cycle. That's what's so incredibly unrealistic about the models. They all seem to assume that the warming of...
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Mark Koskenmaki
pwrwagn
Apr 8, 2009 4:09 pm
Only factory farmed animals release methane? How could that be? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ... From: "Wayne"...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 8, 2009 4:17 pm
Where did you get that preposterous idea?...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 8, 2009 5:17 pm
ScienceDaily (Apr. 8, 2009) — The design of efficient systems for splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen, driven by sunlight is among the most important...
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poitsplace
Apr 8, 2009 9:36 pm
The diet of the animals changes things...they produce MORE methane. Of course methane has a very short lifetime in the atmosphere. It's not anything to be...
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Mark Koskenmaki
pwrwagn
Apr 8, 2009 10:33 pm
You just said it. It is down below, and quoted here for clarity... "(and now factory farmed food animals, which release methane) " If all food and non food...
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Wayne
lwaynes_world
Apr 8, 2009 10:39 pm
The preposterous idea was your comment that "Only factory farmed animals release methane?". Where did that come from??? All animals produce some methane,...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 8, 2009 10:59 pm
"They all seem to assume that the warming of the last WARMING CYCLE was from CO2." The assumption here is on your part. Models do not assume that the last...
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Ken MacClune
coloradoken
Apr 8, 2009 11:01 pm
Methane has 25 times the greenhouse impact of CO2 taking into consideration its lifetime....
16752
poitsplace
Apr 9, 2009 3:11 am
... I guess you're right. I don't know for certain that it's what they're doing. HOWEVER they do follow that rate of increase. Even if they show a period of...
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Mark Koskenmaki
pwrwagn
Apr 9, 2009 12:07 pm
You are the one who said "and now factory farmed food animals, which release methane" claiming it was a hazard to the environment. Which implies that only...
