As I go further back in time, the existence of death certificates
become more rare.  What is the accepted form of identification in these
instances?  Does gravestone information suffice?

Thanks!
David

The following articles were published this month at Genealogy Today:

The Federal Census Online - There are two types of online census
sites, free and paid. This article will take a look at both types.
http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/MYtree/050727.html

Finding And Using Church Records - Church records are made for
ecclesiastical reasons, not to provide genealogists with answers to
their questions. They were, and still are, made to report to church
authorities the functional success of a church in the community.
http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/everyday/050715.html

Alberta and Saskatchewan Centennials in 2005 - This year, in 2005,
both provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta are celebrating their
joining to Canada on September 1st, 1905.
http://www.genealogytoday.com/ca/connect/050711.html

Dot to Dot Research - Methodically we stay on track, but without a
plan we loose our way and have to back track or start over.
http://www.genealogytoday.com/columns/ruby/050708.html

I'm trying to find the decendants of  the Davis siblings born in the
late 1850's their parents were David and Sarah Wiggins Davis the
family came to Texas in the 1870 from Tennessee and settled in Bell co
Texas I have Sarah's obituary from 1933 that names her 6 surviving
children  as  Mrs. J.W. Morgan of Broken Bow Oklahoma, Mrs J.S.
Mussett of Austin Texas, Mrs J. R. Blanchard and Mrs.J .R.Harrison of
Cedar Creek Bell Co Texas,Mr J.H.Davis of Dallas Texas,Mr J.R. Davis
of Commerce Texas,
  thank you

1886 University Of Wisconsin Student & Faculty Images posted to
DeadFred.com

Direct Link to Images
http://deadfred.com/results2_05.php?SubmitterEmail=uow

Direct Link to Annuals
http://deadfred.com/annuals_05.php

You can look for grave markers, obits, court documents, probates.
if when the person dies they had small children then most times a
guardianship was provide through the courts

Just a few ideas

Cassandra

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As I go further back in time, the existence of death certificates
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instances?  Does gravestone information suffice?

Thanks!
David





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Have you checked the census in that county for 1850?



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Davis's obituary Bell Co. Texas 1933

I'm trying to find the decendants of  the Davis siblings born in the
late 1850's their parents were David and Sarah Wiggins Davis the
family came to Texas in the 1870 from Tennessee and settled in Bell co
Texas I have Sarah's obituary from 1933 that names her 6 surviving
children  as  Mrs. J.W. Morgan of Broken Bow Oklahoma, Mrs J.S.
Mussett of Austin Texas, Mrs J. R. Blanchard and Mrs.J .R.Harrison of
Cedar Creek Bell Co Texas,Mr J.H.Davis of Dallas Texas,Mr J.R. Davis
of Commerce Texas,
thank you





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Can anyone tell me about the Hanscombs, one of which
was in Braceville or Haytown, Illinois in 1890-1910 or
thereabouts.
My Grandmother was born there and said her father
walked away when she was young- beyond that I know
nothing- not a first name, where from or even if the
spelling I am using is correct.
My family won't talk- so I am looking on my own.
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Yes, funeral home records help also

--- daviddillard3 <daviddillard3@...> wrote:

>
> As I go further back in time, the existence of death
> certificates
> become more rare.  What is the accepted form of
> identification in these
> instances?  Does gravestone information suffice?
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
>
>
>

I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the web family
history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.) and whether you
thought it was worth it.

I have thought about this because time after time I come across a web
page that leads me to a link (census return, birth details) and then
says I either have to pay or join or most likely both.

Now I can't afford to join all these services and for all I know some
in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one offers better
value ? Maybe another is a rip off?

As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around. So, any ideas ..
please let me know what you think, or how you think I could get a fair
opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres around the UK.

Martin

I have also had good luck with land records. While looking for land
records, I found the only written proof of a death date from 1835 on
one of my line, and all the heirs listed. I think I sat at the
courthouse with my mouth open in amazement for about 5 minutes when I
saw all that. :)

--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "daviddillard3"
<daviddillard3@y...> wrote:
>
> As I go further back in time, the existence of death certificates
> become more rare.  What is the accepted form of identification in these
> instances?  Does gravestone information suffice?
>
> Thanks!
> David

I used a trial subscription to Ancestry.com and found some information
that was useful.  I also did subscribe for a month to World Tree thru
Genealogy.com for $9.99.  It's okay.  I was able to link to 2 extended
family trees.

If you want to save money, the LDS Family History Centers have free use
of Ancestry.com and are very useful according to my sisters.  They're
open to anyone who wants to use them
\
\--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Eayrs"
<martin@e...> wrote:
> I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the web family
> history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.) and whether you
> thought it was worth it.
>
> I have thought about this because time after time I come across a web
> page that leads me to a link (census return, birth details) and then
> says I either have to pay or join or most likely both.
>
> Now I can't afford to join all these services and for all I know some
> in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one offers better
> value ? Maybe another is a rip off?
>
> As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around. So, any ideas ..
> please let me know what you think, or how you think I could get a fair
> opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres around the UK.
>
> Martin

Martin

If you would have ask me a month ago I would have said no.  But since
Ancestry has updated each census more names of mine are showing up.
They have also worked on clearing them up so if you do located some one
you can actually ready it.  The printing now is very easy.  Yes they are
pricey but you can just get the census if you want.   The newspaper I
didn't find any thing so I dropped that. But over all the census is
great.

I know my library here if you have a card you can sign on from home to
there data base.  This is heritage quest census.  Mine doesn't have all
of them but it is free.

Hope this helps.  I have to decide if I want to up my ancestry for
another year.

Cassandra

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I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the web family
history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.) and whether you
thought it was worth it.

I have thought about this because time after time I come across a web
page that leads me to a link (census return, birth details) and then
says I either have to pay or join or most likely both.

Now I can't afford to join all these services and for all I know some
in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one offers better
value ? Maybe another is a rip off?

As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around. So, any ideas ..
please let me know what you think, or how you think I could get a fair
opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres around the UK.

Martin




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I belong to Ancestry.com and have found that it is very helpful.  I can't aford
to travel around to gather all of the information that can be found on the site.
The census reports for instance.  you can view the actual page of the report
then save it to your hard drive.  They are posting more data bases all the time.
They have different subscriptions so you can just subscrib to the area's that
you are interested in.  Geneolgy.com is a sister site so a subscription to one
or the other is really all that you would need if choosing to subscrib to one or
the other of those sites.

I wondered the same thing before I subscribe and started with a subscription in
the area that I thought I would use the most and then added subscriptions to the
other area's of the site as I started using it more. That spreads the cost out
through the year and for me is more affordable than subsrcribing to the whole
site all at once.

Good Luck with your research.

Martin Eayrs <martin@...> wrote:
I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the web family
history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.) and whether you
thought it was worth it.

I have thought about this because time after time I come across a web
page that leads me to a link (census return, birth details) and then
says I either have to pay or join or most likely both.

Now I can't afford to join all these services and for all I know some
in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one offers better
value ? Maybe another is a rip off?

As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around. So, any ideas ..
please let me know what you think, or how you think I could get a fair
opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres around the UK.

Martin




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Hi Martin,

I'm new here but I've been looking for ancestors for about six weeks now
and have had some pretty good luck.

So far I'm with Ancestry.com, LDS, and JewishGen (I just found out a
week ago that I have Jewish roots : )  Ancestry.com is expensive, but it
has given me lots and lots of information.  They don't advertise that
that they have a monthly rate, which is $50 - you have to call them in
order to get it.  I'm a single parent so I can't afford the $150 - $200
to join.  Also if you "pretend" you're going to join for a year, then
close the window, they'll follow up with sending you a cheaper offer.  I
think Ancestry.com is worth it because it saves me a lot of time in
looking.  One drawback is that their search engine isn't as good as it
could be - it comes up with data that's pertinent, but then I'll find
that I have to go thru page after page after page in order to get to
other results that were sorted from different databases - in other
words, they'll come up with results from Immigration Records first,
which you have to sort thru, then you have to keep going if you want to
look at Census records, and so on.  I did find census results for a lot
of my ancestors, which were fascinating because you can download the
actual pages and see what was happening in 1930, etc.

One thing they need to correct is that if you go into a link, then go
back into the search results, the link doesn't change color - so it's
difficult sometimes to find your place again.  That's a pain.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that Ancestry.com is worth it to me,
but I sure as heck wouldn't shell out $200 to use it - and there are
ways of getting around that price.  I should also say that I have found
very important information on the LDS site that is NOT on Ancestry.com,
that I have been looking for, for a long time.  Interesting, huh?

I have a question - why can't we find census records for 1940 and after?
Have always wondered - I realize that they probably weren't hand-written
at that time, but why don't we have access to them?

Thanks much,

Roberta in CA  : )





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To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Family history websites


I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the web family
history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.) and whether you
thought it was worth it.

I have thought about this because time after time I come across a web
page that leads me to a link (census return, birth details) and then
says I either have to pay or join or most likely both.

Now I can't afford to join all these services and for all I know some
in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one offers better
value ? Maybe another is a rip off?

As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around. So, any ideas ..
please let me know what you think, or how you think I could get a fair
opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres around the UK.

Martin




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Has to be 70 years or so gone by before you can get
those updated to present time census

--- Roberta Kendall <robertakendall@...>
wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> I'm new here but I've been looking for ancestors for
> about six weeks now
> and have had some pretty good luck.
>
> So far I'm with Ancestry.com, LDS, and JewishGen (I
> just found out a
> week ago that I have Jewish roots : )  Ancestry.com
> is expensive, but it
> has given me lots and lots of information.  They
> don't advertise that
> that they have a monthly rate, which is $50 - you
> have to call them in
> order to get it.  I'm a single parent so I can't
> afford the $150 - $200
> to join.  Also if you "pretend" you're going to join
> for a year, then
> close the window, they'll follow up with sending you
> a cheaper offer.  I
> think Ancestry.com is worth it because it saves me a
> lot of time in
> looking.  One drawback is that their search engine
> isn't as good as it
> could be - it comes up with data that's pertinent,
> but then I'll find
> that I have to go thru page after page after page in
> order to get to
> other results that were sorted from different
> databases - in other
> words, they'll come up with results from Immigration
> Records first,
> which you have to sort thru, then you have to keep
> going if you want to
> look at Census records, and so on.  I did find
> census results for a lot
> of my ancestors, which were fascinating because you
> can download the
> actual pages and see what was happening in 1930,
> etc.
>
> One thing they need to correct is that if you go
> into a link, then go
> back into the search results, the link doesn't
> change color - so it's
> difficult sometimes to find your place again.
> That's a pain.
>
> I guess what I'm trying to say is that Ancestry.com
> is worth it to me,
> but I sure as heck wouldn't shell out $200 to use it
> - and there are
> ways of getting around that price.  I should also
> say that I have found
> very important information on the LDS site that is
> NOT on Ancestry.com,
> that I have been looking for, for a long time.
> Interesting, huh?
>
> I have a question - why can't we find census records
> for 1940 and after?
> Have always wondered - I realize that they probably
> weren't hand-written
> at that time, but why don't we have access to them?
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Roberta in CA  : )
>
>
>
>
>
> Roberta Kendall
>
> robtakendall@...
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psittacula_lovers/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Martin Eayrs
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:11 AM
> To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Family history
> websites
>
>
> I was wondering if any of you belonged to any of the
> web family
> history companies (roots.com, ancestry.com, etc.)
> and whether you
> thought it was worth it.
>
> I have thought about this because time after time I
> come across a web
> page that leads me to a link (census return, birth
> details) and then
> says I either have to pay or join or most likely
> both.
>
> Now I can't afford to join all these services and
> for all I know some
> in fact duplicate the content of others. Maybe one
> offers better
> value ? Maybe another is a rip off?
>
> As I sincerely don't know I thought I'd ask around.
> So, any ideas ..
> please let me know what you think, or how you think
> I could get a fair
> opinion. Most (but not all) of my research centres
> around the UK.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
> Searching for your ancestry? You'll find great help
> at Ancestry.Com
>
> http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=5647408
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I use Ancestry.com alot.  I have found lot's of family on census records, the
immigration lists and just last night I found the birth date of my baby brother
who only lived about 3 mo.  He was born in Dec. 1953 and Ancestry has the Texas
birth records online.  Now I can get a copy of his birth certificate and
hopefully his death certificate, now that I have his birthdate and full name. 
Found out he was born just 11 months before I was.
This was an awesome find!
Vivian (MARTIN) Sternenberg
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Hi Roberta,
You asked:
I have a question - why can't we find census records for 1940 and after?
Have always wondered - I realize that they probably weren't hand-written
at that time, but why don't we have access to them?

Thanks much,

Roberta in CA  : )
My answer:  They have to wait 75 yrs. to make census records public record. 
That is why we have to wait in 10 yr. cycles to have the records available. 
Before that time, you can contact the census bureau and pay for a copy if you
know name, dates and places, but you also have to have a valid reason, such as a
person birth record needs to be known for driver's license or to sign up on
Social Security, etc.  1940 will be available to us after 2010.
Hope this answers your question.
Vivian in Oregon
Researching:
STERNENBERG>Germany>Illinois>Alabama
MARTIN>Arkansas>Texas>Oklahoma
MASON>Iowa>Arkansas>Oklahoma
WITTE>Alabama
FORMAN>Alabama

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Hello lists:I'm trying to find a great grand-aunt Litha Shade.She was
born in Alabama about 1885 in the northeastern part of the state.I have
only found her  once on the census.That was the 1900 census for Arkansas
county,Ar.She is living with her father Willam and possibly stepmom
Missouria,brothers and another missing,elusive sister Pearl Shade.Litha
supposedly had a daughter Catherine.I would appreciate all leads.
Robert

I just wanted to share my experience with everyone that I had yesterday.

I ordered the Family Tree Maker 2005 software from Ancestry.com - paid
the $40 over the web for it, etc. almost a month ago.  So I waited and
waited for it to come in the mail - finally started calling them -
"Where is my software?"  They kept telling me that it was sent by the
post office so there was no way to track it and sometimes it can take as
long as three weeks to get to us.

So FINALLY yesterday it showed up on my desk (I had it sent to work,
safer for me) and I thought, Wow, great, it's finally here - and put it
to one side for a few hours because I was really busy.  When I tore the
envelope open later (thinking, That's weird, usually software comes in a
box), I found that the only thing they had sent to me was the Quick
Start Guide, which was a tiny pamphlet that goes with the software -
nothing else!!  No disk, no nothing, NADA.  I was so upset!!  I called
them right away and the woman was very apologetic and first offered me a
free week of Ancestry.com, and said she'd get another one right in the
mail to me as soon as I returned the booklet to them.  So I said, "Hey,
wait a minute, that doesn't fly with me" and so we dickered and talked
some more - I finally told her that I wanted my money back, because I
don't want to wait another four weeks for the software, especially since
my free trial is over in a few days.  I thought it would be easier just
to go out and buy it somewhere.

But as we were talking I did a quick check on the web and found that the
amount I paid with Ancestry.com is much lower than what they're selling
it for at other places - I paid around $32, and Fry's has it for $50,
which really surprised me.  After being on the phone with them for a
while (she had to talk to her manager several times), they came back
with an offer of sending me a free copy of FamilyTree Maker 2006 (the
new version that's just coming out), and the free week of Ancestry.com.
Since the new software is quite expensive, I said ok.  So now I'm
sitting here waiting another (probably) four weeks for my software to
come....what a frustrating experience!!

I hope no one else has had that problem??

Roberta



Roberta Kendall

robtakendall@...

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To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Genealogy Research Club] Family history websites


I use Ancestry.com alot.  I have found lot's of family on census
records, the immigration lists and just last night I found the birth
date of my baby brother who only lived about 3 mo.  He was born in Dec.
1953 and Ancestry has the Texas birth records online.  Now I can get a
copy of his birth certificate and hopefully his death certificate, now
that I have his birthdate and full name.  Found out he was born just 11
months before I was.
This was an awesome find!
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Roberta and all,

The census records are released every 10 years due to "privacy records" or
whatever. The 1930 census was released in 2002, therefore, the 1940 records will
be released in 2012.
I did find my father who is 80, in the 1930 census but my mother was still in
the womb! I wont get to see her actually in the census for another 7 years....
Good luck in your search!

Mary Lou


I have a question - why can't we find census records for 1940 and after?
Have always wondered - I realize that they probably weren't hand-written
at that time, but why don't we have access to them?

Thanks much,

Roberta in CA  : )







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How very interesting!  Thanks for that information, never knew that.  :
)

Roberta



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Hi Roberta,
You asked:
I have a question - why can't we find census records for 1940 and after?
Have always wondered - I realize that they probably weren't hand-written
at that time, but why don't we have access to them?

Thanks much,

Roberta in CA  : )
My answer:  They have to wait 75 yrs. to make census records public
record.  That is why we have to wait in 10 yr. cycles to have the
records available.  Before that time, you can contact the census bureau
and pay for a copy if you know name, dates and places, but you also have
to have a valid reason, such as a person birth record needs to be known
for driver's license or to sign up on Social Security, etc.  1940 will
be available to us after 2010.
Hope this answers your question.
Vivian in Oregon
Researching:
STERNENBERG>Germany>Illinois>Alabama
MARTIN>Arkansas>Texas>Oklahoma
MASON>Iowa>Arkansas>Oklahoma
WITTE>Alabama
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Roberta,

       Thanks for the heads up.  I have never liked Ancestry!  Yeah, they have
lots of info but I just don't like their attitude.  I get stuff from them
telling me they have info, then I go and they expect me to pay for everything.

        Thanks again for letting us know about your frustrating experience with
them.

Diane

Roberta Kendall <robertakendall@...> wrote:
I just wanted to share my experience with everyone that I had yesterday.

I ordered the Family Tree Maker 2005 software from Ancestry.com - paid
the $40 over the web for it, etc. almost a month ago.  So I waited and
waited for it to come in the mail - finally started calling them -
"Where is my software?"  They kept telling me that it was sent by the
post office so there was no way to track it and sometimes it can take as
long as three weeks to get to us.

So FINALLY yesterday it showed up on my desk (I had it sent to work,
safer for me) and I thought, Wow, great, it's finally here - and put it
to one side for a few hours because I was really busy.  When I tore the
envelope open later (thinking, That's weird, usually software comes in a
box), I found that the only thing they had sent to me was the Quick
Start Guide, which was a tiny pamphlet that goes with the software -
nothing else!!  No disk, no nothing, NADA.  I was so upset!!  I called
them right away and the woman was very apologetic and first offered me a
free week of Ancestry.com, and said she'd get another one right in the
mail to me as soon as I returned the booklet to them.  So I said, "Hey,
wait a minute, that doesn't fly with me" and so we dickered and talked
some more - I finally told her that I wanted my money back, because I
don't want to wait another four weeks for the software, especially since
my free trial is over in a few days.  I thought it would be easier just
to go out and buy it somewhere.

But as we were talking I did a quick check on the web and found that the
amount I paid with Ancestry.com is much lower than what they're selling
it for at other places - I paid around $32, and Fry's has it for $50,
which really surprised me.  After being on the phone with them for a
while (she had to talk to her manager several times), they came back
with an offer of sending me a free copy of FamilyTree Maker 2006 (the
new version that's just coming out), and the free week of Ancestry.com.
Since the new software is quite expensive, I said ok.  So now I'm
sitting here waiting another (probably) four weeks for my software to
come....what a frustrating experience!!

I hope no one else has had that problem??

Roberta



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I use Ancestry.com alot.  I have found lot's of family on census
records, the immigration lists and just last night I found the birth
date of my baby brother who only lived about 3 mo.  He was born in Dec.
1953 and Ancestry has the Texas birth records online.  Now I can get a
copy of his birth certificate and hopefully his death certificate, now
that I have his birthdate and full name.  Found out he was born just 11
months before I was.
This was an awesome find!
Vivian (MARTIN) Sternenberg
in Oregon


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roberta i know that it is frustrating trying to get
census records, up here in canada  due to privacy
issues census records are not opened for 100 years i
am trying to trace my mothers family, all of whom
except one have passed away, who could it hurt if the
census records are released say after 70 years? groups
up here in canada are working on that issue maybe you
could get groups down in the us to try the same thing
--- Mary Lou <babylou52@...> wrote:


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Roberta and all,

The census records are released every 10 years due to
"privacy records" or whatever. The 1930 census was
released in 2002, therefore, the 1940 records will be
released in 2012.
I did find my father who is 80, in the 1930 census but
my mother was still in the womb! I wont get to see her
actually in the census for another 7 years....
Good luck in your search!

Mary Lou


I have a question - why can't we find census records
for 1940 and after?
Have always wondered - I realize that they probably
weren't hand-written
at that time, but why don't we have access to them?

Thanks much,

Roberta in CA  : )







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I appear to have a mysterious grandfather. George William Laurance
(Lawrence) Airs was born in the UK in 1915ish and died in the UK in
1999. Bizarely his death certificate is all that I can find in bdm and
I wondered if anyone had any ideas on where I else i may find this
information.....

Any help would by much appreciated

Hi all,
The World War I overseas casualty reports issued by
the War Department daily are being transcribed and
placed online in the library at GenealogyBuff.com.
A direct link to the searchable reports is
http://www.genealogybuff.com/il/il-ww1-casualties.htm

Some lists have accompanying news clippings that deal
with casualties for that date that give great family
clues.

Hope this helps.
Bill

Thanks very much Bill, very helpful!

My great uncle was in WWI (I have registration cards for him and his
brother, got them off of Ancestry.com) - his son told me that they kept
my uncle an extra year after the war ended because he was quite a
linguist and knew many German dialects, so they used him to translate
for some of the injured and to write chronicles.  I wish I had known
him, he sounds like a really interesting person.

One thing I have found while doing my search is a huge amount of regret
that I didn't know my relatives.  My g-grandfather and g-grandmother
were fascinating people!  They owned ten saloons in Brooklyn, my
g-grandmother did all the cooking for them, and her husband went to
Africa for adventures, and left her to run the saloons.  He did end up
coming back - would love to know what her reaction was!  LOL

I also found out yesterday that they were cousins.  Interesting stuff.

Roberta : )



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@ GenealogyBuff.com


Hi all,
The World War I overseas casualty reports issued by
the War Department daily are being transcribed and
placed online in the library at GenealogyBuff.com.
A direct link to the searchable reports is
http://www.genealogybuff.com/il/il-ww1-casualties.htm

Some lists have accompanying news clippings that deal
with casualties for that date that give great family
clues.

Hope this helps.
Bill




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No one in my family knows what my great grandmother's maiden name was
and I have no documents with this info. If I request a copy of my
grandmother's birth certificate(Cook County Illinois)will it be
honored without providing the mother's maiden name?  Does anyone have
any other ideas?

Thanks!!
Cathy

Cathy,
Do you know when and where your grandparents were married?  If you do,
you can request a copy of their marriage APPLICATION that will list your
grandmothers maiden name.  Also, do you have access to your parents
birth certificates?  It will list their mother's maiden name on the
birth certificate!
Good luck,
Rhonna

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cathy, you will never get a birth certificate without a last name. i'd
try  to get a death certificate and see if it is on there. was she
married in illinois? the state has a great data base. anybody out
there reserching in illinois should try

www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/archives.html

good luck, thornton