If both parents of a set of children die, and the maternal grandparents
legally adopt them thus giving the children their mother's maiden name,
do you enter them twice?  Once for the parents, and once for the
grandparents as adopted?

Any help would be appreciated.

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
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Favorite Links
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.html
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I have added links to my favorite genealogy websites. Click on the link
in my signature block This is the same as the links in the Beginner Page
it just does not include the hints and tips.  Some of the material
covered:
Free or nearly free Genealogy Websites and GEDCOM sharing sites
Cemetery Look up pages
Free Genealogy Software program
Free Census (Not a trial version)
Photo Look up website.
plus more.  If you know of a site which is free or there is some other
method of working off your research time. Please send the link to me by
e-mail and I will check it out.  Please no free trial offers!

Also you may want to check out the Maps page.  Right now it covers most
of England, and Ontario.  If you have a high resolution, readable map you
would like to donate, I would appreciate it and give you credit of
course.  If the file is large (> 1 MB) please send it to my alternate
address fplum7755@... .  Please only use this address for large
files, all other correspondence use this address which I check several
times a day.  Hope this is helpful to everyone, thank you for your
participation so far, your response has been heartwarming.

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
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.html
Researching
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OK here's one for you lawyers out there.  My g-grandfather was reported
to have been disbarred because of his fierce temper.  I do know that when
he died there was not very many tears shed for him, by his family.
Here's what information I have:

His father John W Hobson was born in Salem Co. Ohio and moved to
Blackhawk Co. Iowa. I do not have a place of birth for the man in
question. I do have him listed in an 1880 Census as Linnaeus HOBSON
although his first name is spelled several different ways. I guess he
didn't care what you called him as long as you didn't call him Late For
Lunch :-).  The census is for Blackhawk Co., he is 21 and listed as a
teacher (probably working his way though Law School.  I have a Civil War
relative related to his family that did the same thing after the war.
Worked for the railroad while going through law school until an accident
took his arm.  He went on to be District Attorney and Justice of the
Peace.)  I have no information about his bar or where he was when he was
disbarred.  I do know that he was in Denver Colorado in 1899 because that
was were and when my grandmother was born.

Can anybody in the legal field tell me how to locate his records.  Where
records kept back then.  If they exist can  I get copies. I'm at a real
loss on this one but I'm very curious because this man was just not very
well liked.

Thank you in advance for any thing you can help with.

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/genbeginner.html
Favorite Links
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.html
Researching PLUMSTEAD, CLEMENS, HEALD, HOBSON, MARTIN, RISSER, SCHROEDER,
THAYER, WIRTH

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i also have ancestors that are listed as Blacksheep.
Gilbert Kennedy I(my 12 X great Grand Father) and Gilbert Kennedy
2Cousin,and John Hinson Kennedy was Adopted By Dr Joseph Pulaski
Kennedy
Gilbert 1 put Alan Stewart on a spit and left him there for several
days until he signed over abbey lands in Scotland(Carrick,Ayrshire)
Gilbert 2 Was listed because he signed a death warrent of Patrick
Hamilton,he was a child when he inherited the title and was under
duress when he signed the death warrent,and John Hinson Kennedy
Harbored a traitor during the Revolutionary  War and Harbored VP
Arron Burr.another member of IBSSG
--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Brenda Faye Parker
<fairplay51@y...> wrote:
>
> American Revolution was fought in 1775-1787 in the 13 colonies. TN
is the abbreviation for the state of Tennessee.
>
> IBSSG stands for the International Blacksheep Society of
Genalogists http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com  Do you have an unsavory
character in your tree??? Maybe some Royal blood, were any of your
family a part of the Witch Trials, or someone who spent time in
jail/prison?????
>
> My qualifiers into the society was a Union(civil war) deserter
(hung), a Condfederate(Civil War) deserter(shot), my grt. grt.
grandfather(age76) who was arrested and fined $5 for lewd and
lascivious behavior in a public place *giggle* at the age of 76. I
am also distantly related to the first serial killers in the US.  My
Hessian ancestor who deserted and never went home is debatable.
>
>
> Am proud member of the IBSSG
>
>
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Have Posted the 1921 * Keystonia* Keystone State Normal School ,
Kutztown Pa Faculty
& Students Images to DeadFred.com
http://www.deadfred.com

Direct Link to Yearbook
http://www.deadfred.com/results2.php?SubmitterEmail=kutz

Direct Link to Annuals List:
http://www.deadfred.com/annuals.htm

Direct Link to Yearbooks@...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Yearbooks/

Which Joslins are you looking for? I have info on many -- very
willing to exchange -- talk to me -- Misty
--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, gougeongenius wrote:
> Looking for info. on Gougeon/Villeneuve/Joslin ancesters.  If ya
know any-talk to me.  Thanks!!

Hi I am hoping someone can help me.  I am interested in doing a
family tree and just researching ancestors.  Unfortunately I don't
know anybody other than immediate relatives such as parents and
aunts. I don't even know my grandparents (died before I was born).
Anyway 1st question-does that matter?  And second question-what is
the best way to start? Like what is the first thing I should do?  I
can see how this can get quite overwhelming.  Does anyone recommend
software or books?

Thanks for reading this message.
Lesley

i would be very intterested to hear if you get any responses.  i have several
judges and lawyers in my tree.

"Forrest G. Plumstead" <fplum@...> wrote:OK here's one for you lawyers out
there.  My g-grandfather was reported
to have been disbarred because of his fierce temper.  I do know that when
he died there was not very many tears shed for him, by his family.
Here's what information I have:

His father John W Hobson was born in Salem Co. Ohio and moved to
Blackhawk Co. Iowa. I do not have a place of birth for the man in
question. I do have him listed in an 1880 Census as Linnaeus HOBSON
although his first name is spelled several different ways. I guess he
didn't care what you called him as long as you didn't call him Late For
Lunch :-).  The census is for Blackhawk Co., he is 21 and listed as a
teacher (probably working his way though Law School.  I have a Civil War
relative related to his family that did the same thing after the war.
Worked for the railroad while going through law school until an accident
took his arm.  He went on to be District Attorney and Justice of the
Peace.)  I have no information about his bar or where he was when he was
disbarred.  I do know that he was in Denver Colorado in 1899 because that
was were and when my grandmother was born.

Can anybody in the legal field tell me how to locate his records.  Where
records kept back then.  If they exist can  I get copies. I'm at a real
loss on this one but I'm very curious because this man was just not very
well liked.

Thank you in advance for any thing you can help with.

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/genbeginner.html
Favorite Links
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/favorite%20links
.html
Researching PLUMSTEAD, CLEMENS, HEALD, HOBSON, MARTIN, RISSER, SCHROEDER,
THAYER, WIRTH

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Lesley, my advise to you is to start out by interviewing your living relatives
and asking them what it is that they know and will share with you. Ask the right
questions of them, you want to know as many facts as possible. Ask the names of
your ancestors, the maiden names of the women, place of birth, date of birth,
date and place of marriages, date and place of deaths. Any children they may
have had, always wanting to know the dates and places things happened. Ask about
their occupations, military service and any personal stories they may have.
Obtain family tree forms to record all this information on ( free on
ancestry.com ). This will give you a good start and lead you to where you need
to look next. Good luck, Norm





Lesley <lmcgraw10@...> wrote:Hi I am hoping someone can help me.  I am
interested in doing a
family tree and just researching ancestors.  Unfortunately I don't
know anybody other than immediate relatives such as parents and
aunts. I don't even know my grandparents (died before I was born).
Anyway 1st question-does that matter?  And second question-what is
the best way to start? Like what is the first thing I should do?  I
can see how this can get quite overwhelming.  Does anyone recommend
software or books?

Thanks for reading this message.
Lesley


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---Hi Lesley,
You can go to the library and ask them where
are their Genealogy book.That how I got start in my
Italian Family. Nancy




--- Lesley <lmcgraw10@...> wrote:
> Hi I am hoping someone can help me.  I am interested
> in doing a
> family tree and just researching ancestors.
> Unfortunately I don't
> know anybody other than immediate relatives such as
> parents and
> aunts. I don't even know my grandparents (died
> before I was born).
> Anyway 1st question-does that matter?  And second
> question-what is
> the best way to start? Like what is the first thing
> I should do?  I
> can see how this can get quite overwhelming.  Does
> anyone recommend
> software or books?
>
> Thanks for reading this message.
> Lesley
>
>


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Hi Lesley!

Actually you can get away without the grandparents but it does make the
search harder.  For a list of recourses, and hints and tips click on the
link next to (or under) New to genealogy? and read my article for
beginners.

Welcome to the group and Happy Hunting!

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/genbeginner.html
Favorite Links
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.html
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THAYER, WIRTH

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iam looking for my aunt her name is  eleanor phillippi this  is my
dads sis my dad's name was david philp and looking for mike philp
last time i knew of  he lived in cleavland oh and his sis danise philp
there dads name was william philp i called him uncle bill
as for my aunt last place know from what i was told she in washington
pa. thanks  for the help or any replys debra philp

i have an ancestor whose name is james Mcn smith, born in north carolina in
1775.  does anyone have any ideas what his middle name might be.  ive never seen
that abbreviation before




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I would  guess MCGlennon, as was  the name of 1 ancestor I am researching.
                                            Rita Broeker



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   Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] help with a middle name



   i have an ancestor whose name is james Mcn smith, born in north carolina in
1775.  does anyone have any ideas what his middle name might be.  ive never seen
that abbreviation before




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Check out my favorite links in the sig block below.  The sites are free
or almost free.

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New to Genealogy?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/genbeginner.html
Favorite Links
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/favorite%20links
.html
Researching PLUMSTEAD, CLEMENS, HEALD, HOBSON, MARTIN, RISSER, SCHROEDER,
THAYER, WIRTH

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There are some Phillippi (s) living in Mahomet IL and Champaign IL. I
think the name in Champaign is David. If that isn't correct, contact
Shawn Luesse in Champaign, he works with him.
chuck

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:31:23 -0000 "outlaw69132001"
<outlaw69132001@...> writes:
iam looking for my aunt her name is  eleanor phillippi this  is my
dads sis my dad's name was david philp and looking for mike philp
last time i knew of  he lived in cleavland oh and his sis danise philp
there dads name was william philp i called him uncle bill
as for my aunt last place know from what i was told she in washington
pa. thanks  for the help or any replys debra philp



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hi   the phillippi iam looking for right now is my aunt she just moved back from
fl to pa with one of her kids her name is eleanor phillippi and thanks for the
info

Chandler s Parsons <cspdjp@...> wrote:There are some Phillippi (s) living
in Mahomet IL and Champaign IL. I
think the name in Champaign is David. If that isn't correct, contact
Shawn Luesse in Champaign, he works with him.
chuck

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:31:23 -0000 "outlaw69132001"
writes:
iam looking for my aunt her name is eleanor phillippi this is my
dads sis my dad's name was david philp and looking for mike philp
last time i knew of he lived in cleavland oh and his sis danise philp
there dads name was william philp i called him uncle bill
as for my aunt last place know from what i was told she in washington
pa. thanks for the help or any replys debra philp



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Hello

I am new. I am researching the redding family tree. I have not got
very far yet. My great grandfather was Joseph Redding Born in Dublin.
In 1881 census he was a visitor to Swann family in Cambridge. In
1901 he was living in Newton-Le-Willows with his mother who by then
was a widow.

I cannot find Mary Redding so I am working on the theory that Joseph
was illegitimate but I do not know this for sure.


Any fresh input would be appreciated.

1860 Photo Album Breslau Germany Posted to DeadFred.com

Have posted a c1860s - 1920s  Photo Album ( mostly 1860s) from
Breslau Germany (
now Poland) to Dead Fred's Genealogy Photo Archive
http://www.deadfred.com  Archive
..  some associated surnames , KNOFF,RABIN,SCHANDENBERG,STEINTZ..and
others

Direct Link
http://deadfred.com/results2.php?SubmitterEmail=Breslau

To see other Photo albums on the archive go to the link below and
scroll down to "Photo
Albums"

http://deadfred.com/surnameR2.php?Letter=P

I have come across two Reddingtons whilst researching my own family
tree. I hope this information will be of use to somebody.

John Reddington aged 25 years buried on 12 Nov 1895

Joseph Reddington aged 20 months buried on 12 Oct 1883.



If they belong to you let me know I have a little bit more
information.

At the Monson Free Library, Monson Massachusetts
Thursday May 15 at 7pm

Hosted by Tom Kelleher, Research Historian at Old Sturbridge
Village
Discover F.W. Beers and the secrets of his 19th Century Atlases.
Learn how they can uncover your community and family history

Early atlases are often neglected research tools that can provide
us with a fascinating glimpse into our local past, on a very
personal scale. In the final third of the nineteenth century,
advances in lithography and improvements in transportation and
communication allowed the successful commercial publication
of county atlases for much of the United States. These early
atlases were much more than mere road maps, however, as
each community was recorded in considerable detail. These
treasure troves of information are fascinating glimpses of what
the land we now inhabit once looked like. One might learn who
once lived in your house, or discover that what is now just a pile
of stones in the woods was once a bustling factory. Atlases are
often as useful to local historians and genealogists today as
they must have been to contemporaries trying to navigate the
roads of nineteenth-century America.

For more information on the lecture contact  the library
monsonfl@...

For more information on availability of the F,W Beers maps go to
www.piperpublishing.com    -click on genealogy tab

Ok. You never know when a relative is going to jump out of the bushes.
Approach bushes carefully!

Click on the New to Genealogy link in the signature box below.  You will
find useful genealogy sites and tools there as well as some helpful tips.

Happy Hunting!

><>Forrest Plumstead<>< San Antonio, TX, USA
Family Web Page     http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/
New to Genealogy?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/Plumstead/genbeginner.html
Favorite Links
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.html
Researching PLUMSTEAD, CLEMENS, HEALD, HOBSON, MARTIN, RISSER, SCHROEDER,
THAYER, WIRTH


On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:49:17 -0000 "tina19721" <tina.conn@...>
writes:
Hello

I am new. I am researching the redding family tree. I have not got very
far yet. My great grandfather was Joseph Redding Born in Dublin. In 1881
census he was a visitor to Swann family in Cambridge. In 1901 he was
living in Newton-Le-Willows with his mother who by then

was a widow.

I cannot find Mary Redding so I am working on the theory that Joseph

was illegitimate but I do not know this for sure.

Any fresh input would be appreciated.


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I thought that I'd post this to encourage others.  I, with my
brothers, help found a whole line of Sergeants that I knew existed,
but had no way to find them directly.  My cousin [86 y/o] and I
visited for four wonderful days last week!  My bro had stumbled onto
Ancestry.com message boards and sent the url to me.  When in doubt,
contact people that "may" be related.  My contact has made my "year"
and it's only May 1st!   D. Brown
Researching:
Gode             Reynolds
Spotz            Rudy
Sergeant         Sweitzer
Priebe           Lenz
and more

I'm look for my grandmother daughter she came with her mother
and her sister into this country on August 20,1903. She was born
in Termini Imerese Italy in 1902.I look to see if she was on the 1905
census record and no show,so I think she may had die in 1903-1904.
In 1905 their is a son born in Kenosha Wis his name is Philip
Palmisano. Her parent name are Mary and Sam Palmisano can someone
help me out.If you need more information please let me known.

Thank You Nancy Mancuso

Have Posted the YearBook 1908 Milwaukee State Normal
School,Milwaukee Wisconsin Faculty & Students Images to Dead Fred's
Genealogy Photo Archive
http://www.deadfred.com

Direct Link to Yearbook
http://www.deadfred.com/results2.php?SubmitterEmail=echo

Direct Link to Annuals List:
http://www.deadfred.com/annuals.php

--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "Nola
<dolphinluva2002@y...>" <dolphinluva2002@y...> wrote:
> Hello Group,
> My names i am searching are,
> Langford,Box,Thorne,Russell,Vincent,Eapps,Davis,Evans and Davies,
> if anyone can help please email me.

Nola,
know of a Langford/Vincent descendant in Victoria. Email me and I'll
give you her details.
Kaye.

I would like to find out about the surnames of Fry, Twombley,
Aldrich, and Dannels.  If you can help me, I would greatly appreciate
it.



Thanks again

Kari Dannels
"EmeraldEyes1993"

You need to provide more information to get help. Norm

Kaye Crettenden <kayec@...> wrote:--- In
genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "Nola
<dolphinluva2002@y...>" <dolphinluva2002@y...> wrote:
> Hello Group,
> My names i am searching are,
> Langford,Box,Thorne,Russell,Vincent,Eapps,Davis,Evans and Davies,
> if anyone can help please email me.

Nola,
know of a Langford/Vincent descendant in Victoria. Email me and I'll
give you her details.
Kaye.


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Hi, Kari!

I'm delighted to see this list become active.  Joined recently and wondered
where everyone was.

Could we have some details?  What are you trying to find with those four
surnames?

Sharon
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