> 1900 Turtle Creek, Warren, Ohio
> Cross, William/41:OH:OH:OH/b:Nov1858, Eva/36:OH:OH:OH/b:Sep1863,
> - married 18 yrs, 2children 2 living
> (), Ray/16, Earl/18
>
> 1910 Clear Creek, Warren, Ohio
> Cross, Eva S/46/divorced, Earl C/23, William B/9

Another researcher of this family -

RootsWeb WorldConnect Family Tree
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johnmsouth1&id=I006693
Name: William Cross
Birth: NOV 1858
Marriage : Eva S. South b: SEP 1863 in Clermont co Ohio
     Married: 20 MAR 1882 in Clermont co Ohio
Children
     1. Roy Cross b: 13 AUG 1884 in Clermont co Ohio
     2. Earl C. Cross b: 9 MAR 1887 in Clermont co Ohio
     3. William Blair Cross b: 12 JAN 1903 in Clermont co Ohio

1880 Jackson, Clermont, Ohio
Thomas M. South 38:OH:OH:OH
Mary South  37:OH:OH:OH
Eva S. South  16:OH:OH:OH
(), Perry F/14, Wesley W/13, William V/11, Malon C/10
(), Luelen R/8, Catherine L/4, Turpen D/2, Marcelus A/1

Note that Clermont County is adjacent to Warren County (1900/1910 censuses)
http://www.ohgenweb.org/map.php

Hmm -
here is a WILLIAM CROSS of the right age in Clermont County -
1870 Wayne (P.O. Goshen), Clermont, Ohio
Cross, Isaac D/47, Elizabeth/37, Hannah A/16, William/11,
(), John/9, Isaac/7, Celestia/4, Mary/9m

1860 Wayne, Clermont, Ohio
Isaac Cross  30 carpenter (all are dittoed as born OHIO)
Elizabeth ()    28
Hanna Alerres  6
Wm Cross  2

- Tom Knox


--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:
>
> I am trying to trace the ancestors of my paternal Grandfather Earl C. Cross he
was born in Germantown, Montgomery County, Ohio in 1887. From what I have found
through Ancestory.com his parents were William Cross born in 1858 and Eva Cross
(maiden name not available) born in 1863. Both of his parents were born in Ohio
and his father William was a farmer. He had an older brother Ray Cross or T Ray
Cross, and a younger brother William. They lived in Warren, Ohio in 1900. The
1910 Census record shows only Eva, my Grandfather and his brother William living
in Warren, Ohio. At this time my Great-Grandmother Eva worked as milliner and my
Grandfather was a laborer. Nothing more on my Great-Grandfather or
Great-Grandmother.  
> Carolyn DeGroff

Many years ago  Wilma J. Vande Berg of the  Greater Sioux County
Genealogical Society sent me a series of newspaper articles from the
De Volksvriend Dutch Language Newspaper of Orange City, Sioux Co.,
Iowa. At that time I recruited three volunteers to translate them.
They are  Anton Vedders, Eric Postma, Peter van Schaik whom I have
lost track of. I took what they translated and published it online.

Recently  I stumbled on some more articles which I had either had
translated, not published, and lost the translations to or, never had
translated. So once again I am seeking someone who can translate
Dutch. Understand this is not modern Dutch but rather the old Dutch
this makes translation a little more difficult. A lot of the articles
are one sentence example Mrs L D Hobson went to see her sister
yesterday, although a few are a little lengthy, describing Political
or Civic meetings they had attended. These articles are from the mid
1880s through the late 1890s.

If I get more then 1 volunteer as I did last time I will split them up
evenly. These articles concern my G-g-father L D Hobson Esq., whom I
am now writing a book about. Any help would be appreciated.

--
73
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Hi,
Thank you for the information. I really appreciate the help.


Carolyn DeGroff
The more we share; the more we learn.
http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
 
 

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This confirms Eva's maiden name (SOUTH) -

Ohio, Births and Christenings Index, 1800-1962 (Ancestry.com)
Name:  William Blair Cross
Gender:  Male - Race:  White
Birth Place:  Turtlecreek, Warren, Ohio
Birth Date:  21 Sep 1900
Father's Name:  Wm. Cross
Mother's name:  Eva South
FHL Film Number:  384210
=====
Name:  Raymond Cross
Gender:  Male - Race:  White
Birth Place:  Union Township, Warren, Ohio
Birth Date:  15 Feb 1884
Father's Name:  Wm. Cross
Mother's name:  Eva
FHL Film Number:  384210

Find-A-Grave
Name: Ray Cross (1884 - 1958)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=41008912
Lebanon Cemetery - Lebanon, Warren, Ohio, USA
Spouse: Allie M Cross (1884 - 1954)

Find-A-Grave has Isaac & Elizabeth CROSS (from 1860-1870 censuses)
in Plainview Cemetery, Newtonsville, Clermont, Ohio, USA
(and probably some of the other buried CROSS are their children)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSln=Cross&GSiman=1&GScid=4270\
1&

- Tom Knox


--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, "Bloodhound; Kermit"
<tomknox2001@...> wrote:
>
> > 1900 Turtle Creek, Warren, Ohio
> > Cross, William/41:OH:OH:OH/b:Nov1858, Eva/36:OH:OH:OH/b:Sep1863,
> > - married 18 yrs, 2children 2 living
> > (), Ray/16, Earl/18
> > 1910 Clear Creek, Warren, Ohio
> > Cross, Eva S/46/divorced, Earl C/23, William B/9
>
> Another researcher of this family -
> RootsWeb WorldConnect Family Tree
>
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johnmsouth1&id=I006693
> Name: William Cross > Birth: NOV 1858
> Marriage : Eva S. South b: SEP 1863 in Clermont co Ohio
>     Married: 20 MAR 1882 in Clermont co Ohio
> Children >     1. Roy Cross b: 13 AUG 1884 in Clermont co Ohio
>     2. Earl C. Cross b: 9 MAR 1887 in Clermont co Ohio
>     3. William Blair Cross b: 12 JAN 1903 in Clermont co Ohio
>
> 1880 Jackson, Clermont, Ohio
> Thomas M. South 38:OH:OH:OH
> Mary South  37:OH:OH:OH
> Eva S. South  16:OH:OH:OH
> (), Perry F/14, Wesley W/13, William V/11, Malon C/10
> (), Luelen R/8, Catherine L/4, Turpen D/2, Marcelus A/1
>
> Note that Clermont County is adjacent to Warren County (1900/1910 censuses)
> http://www.ohgenweb.org/map.php
>
> Hmm -  here is a WILLIAM CROSS of the right age in Clermont County -
> 1870 Wayne (P.O. Goshen), Clermont, Ohio
> Cross, Isaac D/47, Elizabeth/37, Hannah A/16, William/11,
> (), John/9, Isaac/7, Celestia/4, Mary/9m
> 1860 Wayne, Clermont, Ohio
> Isaac Cross  30 carpenter (all are dittoed as born OHIO)
> Elizabeth ()    28
> Hanna Alerres  6
> Wm Cross  2
>
> - Tom Knox
>
> --- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn <carcross02@> wrote:
> >
> > I am trying to trace the ancestors of my paternal Grandfather Earl C. Cross
he was born in Germantown, Montgomery County, Ohio in 1887. From what I have
found through Ancestory.com his parents were William Cross born in 1858 and Eva
Cross (maiden name not available) born in 1863. Both of his parents were born in
Ohio and his father William was a farmer. He had an older brother Ray Cross or T
Ray Cross, and a younger brother William. They lived in Warren, Ohio in
1900. The 1910 Census record shows only Eva, my Grandfather and his brother
William living in Warren, Ohio. At this time my Great-Grandmother Eva worked as
milliner and my Grandfather was a laborer. Nothing more on my Great-Grandfather
or Great-Grandmother.  
> > Carolyn DeGroff

> 1900 Turtle Creek, Warren, Ohio
> Cross, William/41:OH:OH:OH/b:Nov1858, Eva/36:OH:OH:OH/b:Sep1863,
> - married 18 yrs, 2children 2 living
> (), Ray/16, Earl/18
>
> 1910 Clear Creek, Warren, Ohio
> Cross, Eva S/46/divorced, Earl C/23, William B/9

This is not guaranteed to be the correct WILLIAM,
but he *is* approximately the correct age, and DIVORCED (in 1910) -

Found at http://familysearch.org
looking for WILLIAM CROSS in CLERMONT COUNTY, OHIO
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MLNJ-Y5J
- also verified at Ancestry.com -
1910 Wayne, Clermont, Ohio
Earl Jones  head M  28y  Ohio; married.1 4 years
Lena Jones  wife F  34y  Ohio
William Cross  boarder M  50y  Ohio; divorced; farm laborer
NOTE: adjacent to a VAN CAMP household, which just happens to be
the maiden name of EVA S SOUTH's mother!
COMMENT: could possibly EARL JONES actually be his son EARL CROSS ?
The age is correct for his son.
(yes, that could possibly mean that Earl was "double-census'ed".)
Or possibly are Earl & Lena related to the Van CAMPs?

(Compare to William CROSS from Clermont County in my previous msg.)

- Tom Knox


--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am new to the group and am looking for help or suggestions on where to look
for more information.
>  
> I am trying to trace the ancestors of my paternal Grandfather Earl C. Cross he
was born in Germantown, Montgomery County, Ohio in 1887. From what I have found
through Ancestory.com his parents were William Cross born in 1858 and Eva Cross
(maiden name not available) born in 1863. Both of his parents were born in Ohio
and his father William was a farmer. He had an older brother Ray Cross or T Ray
Cross, and a younger brother William. They lived in Warren, Ohio in 1900. The
1910 Census record shows only Eva, my Grandfather and his brother William living
in Warren, Ohio. At this time my Great-Grandmother Eva worked as milliner and my
Grandfather was a laborer. Nothing more on my Great-Grandfather or
Great-Grandmother.  
>
>
> Carolyn DeGroff
>  
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I have a ...

Edna Hazel Cross b. 1913 in West Park, Ohio; died 1995 in Roseland, Ohio
(parents were Henry George and Violet Redstone).
and her brother
Glenn Henry Cross born 1910; died 1926 in Berea, Ohio. (parents were Henry
George and Violet Redstone)

George William Cross b. England but married (Amelia Cooper there) and they lived
in Ohio at some point cuz she died there.

2 Earl Crosses in Ohio (jr/sr) but middle names are "Wesley".

Sunny
IBSSG



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Hi Bob
Yes that is my mothers family. Her parents were Elbert and Emma Eunice Shores.
She was born in Penna Jan 1916.
 
 I do not know the names on the Rowe stones but do know they are 1950 or
later.  My source for the location was my aunt. She said my brother was on the
other side of the cemetery from her mother. No I have not gone to the cemetery
as it is in Vestal NY and I live in Jacksonville AR.
 
I have posted on genforum and on  a Broome county board. I have also had a
person there research the state death records as well as contacted the state
library and the cemetery itsself.
 
My grandmother I believe was from around Ulster Pa and my grandfather Sheshequin
area but are in bradford county.
At one time I saw a copy of a marriage record for my mom but its been years
since. It was a church wedding. It was in a booklet.
 
I am wondering if it might be possible he died in Penna while visiting? Their is
no one I can ask as my mom died in 1949. My grandmother died in 1934 and my
grandfather was killed in a auto accident in NJ in 1937.


________________________________
From: bob gillis <robertgillis@...>
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Genealogy Research Club]infant Rowe


 


On 4/22/2012 7:39 PM, sandra smith wrote:
>
> Brickwall number 2 (Infant) Rowe. I am searching for the name and
> date of birth and death of my brother. Here is what I do know. My
> mother was Hazel Shores and she married Curtis D Rowe (sometimes used
> the name Rutledge) by Nov 1934. They were living in Vestal NY at the
> time. They had yet to marry in 1930 census. They were
> separated/divorced by Jan 1942. She was staying in Buffalo then
> working in an aircraft factory. From what my aunt told me before she
> passed away he died at the age of 18 months. The reason was bad milk.
> He is buried in a cemetery in Vestal NY that is property of a
> Methodist church. Searching the cemetery there is no grave for a
> infant Rowe. However there are two graves bearing the name Rowe
> approx 1950s. He is buried on the opposite side from my grandmother
> Emma Eunice Shores. Her stone has just Eunice Shores on it. I have
> contacted the church and no record exists for him. All the books show
> for that period is infant and date of burial. I have tried the state
> library and have deaths for that period none are a infant. Both in
> name of Rutledge and Rowe. I have contacted the city of Vestal as
> well as Endicott. So far no trace. Since my mom was from Penna I am
> beginning to wonder if he could have died there or in a different
> location from where they lived.

this query leaves me rather confused. You wrote

> Searching the cemetery there is no grave for a
> infant Rowe. However there are two graves bearing the name Rowe
> approx 1950s. He is buried on the opposite side from my grandmother
> Emma Eunice Shores.

Who are on the Rowe stones? Who is buried on the opposite side, of what
stone? What is your source for this?

Have you gone to the Cemetery? is there a foot stone perhaps covered in
soil and grass.

You have not placed a query on NYBROOME, PASUSQUE,r PA-SUSQUEHANNA,
SHORES or ROWE.

Where did your grandparents come from in PA and where was you mother born?

I find this on familysearch.org?

Name: Hazel M Shores
Event: Census
Event Date: 1930
Event Place: Johnson City, Broome, New York
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Estimated Birth Year: 1916
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Enumeration District Number: 0090
Family Number: 37.1
Sheet Number and Letter: 2A
Line Number: 43
NARA Publication: T626, roll 1408
Film Number: 2341143
Digital Folder Number: 4661078
Image Number: 00669
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Emma E Shores F 36 Pennsylvania
Son William H Shores M 19 New York
Daughter Bertha H Shores F 17 Pennsylvania
Daughter Hazel M Shores F 14 Pennsylvania
Boarder Alpheus F Tripp M 19 New York

I find no marriage of Hazel Shores in NY or PA
>



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Hello everyone.

Because a lot of folks over the years have questioned the value of having
genealogy information on a website, I thought I'd take this opportunity to
report that ManyRoads (my website) recently received its 200,000th visitor.

You may read the posting/ announcement here:
http://goo.gl/Z21Vr

Does any of this help?  I don't know, but it does mean that some amount of my
website information is being scrutinized.

atb
...mark

Not sure if this was posted about before but ijust noticed it and thought I'd
share.

The Ohio Historical Society has added an online (searchable) index of inmates’
case records from the Boys Industrial School in Lancaster
and the Girls Industrial School in Delaware to improve access to this resource
for genealogical and family history research. Currently, this
database indexes the admission records for the Girls Industrial School from 1869
to 1943, and the admission records for the Boys Industrial
School from 1858 to 1944.

http://www.ohiohistory.org/resource/database/industrial/

Sunny
IBSSG

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hello everyone,
new to the group..
i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help others
if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.
this has been a hobby of mine for years.
i am a mother of 5. from pa.

Welcome, Shorty:  This is a good place to start your search.  If you live in
Venango Co., I need help with a few ppl.  Roberta Baum
  To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
From: angels_wings_77@...
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group


























       hello everyone,

new to the group..

i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help others
if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.

this has been a hobby of mine for years.

i am a mother of 5. from pa.


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On 6/3/2012 2:59 AM, sandra smith wrote:
> Hi Bob Yes that is my mothers family. Her parents were Elbert and
> Emma Eunice Shores. She was born in Penna Jan 1916.
>
> I do not know the names on the Rowe stones but do know they are 1950
> or later.  My source for the location was my aunt. She said my
> brother was on the other side of the cemetery from her mother. No I
> have not gone to the cemetery as it is in Vestal NY and I live in
> Jacksonville AR.
>
> I have posted on genforum and on  a Broome county board. I have also
> had a person there research the state death records as well as
> contacted the state library and the cemetery itself.

What did you ask of which  cemetery and what did  the cemetery office
say back to you?
Did the cemetery have and send you the the locations of Rowe burials?

You posted essentially the same query you wrote here in in 2006 and
again in  Nov 2010, 18 months ago with one response, a correction.

Ask on the Broome Board and on the NYBROOME list for a Random Act of
Genealogical Kindness, RAOGK.   Ask for someone  one to go to the
cemetery and look for the  stones.


>
> My grandmother I believe was from around Ulster Pa and my grandfather
> Sheshequin area but are in bradford county. At one time I saw a copy
> of a marriage record for my mom but its been years since. It was a
> church wedding. It was in a booklet.
>
> I am wondering if it might be possible he died in Penna while
> visiting? Their is no one I can ask as my mom died in 1949. My
> grandmother died in 1934 and my grandfather was killed in a auto
> accident in NJ in 1937.

Hi Shorty, welcome to the group. What part of Pa are you from? I'm in
Indiana, Pa, about 80 miles from Pittsburgh. The majority of my research
here in the states are right here in my home town and the neighboring county
(Armstrong).
  Lori




My Family Tree Blog
http://genealogyexpress.blogspot.com/  
Lori's Scrapbook Expressions Blog
http://lorisscrapbookexpressions.blogspot.com

-------Original Message-------

From: Shorty
Date: 6/5/2012 5:06:05 PM
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group


hello everyone,
new to the group..
i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help
others if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.
this has been a hobby of mine for years.
i am a mother of 5. from pa.





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Hi, welcome to the group. I live in Warren Co, Pa, if you need help from
here.   Barb

--- On Tue, 6/5/12, Shorty <angels_wings_77@...> wrote:

From: Shorty <angels_wings_77@...>
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 3:53 AM
















 









       hello everyone,

new to the group..

i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help others
if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.

this has been a hobby of mine for years.

i am a mother of 5. from pa.



























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Welcome Shorty-
I mainly do research regarding black sheep ancestors and have a large
database on my PC I digitized for searching by name. Also, many other
resources for BS. If you ever need my assistance, shoot me an email :-)

(I have tons of Pa rellies :-)

Sunny
IBSSG

>
>
>
>
> > From: Shorty
>
> Date: 6/5/2012 5:06:05 PM
>
> To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group
>
>
>
>
>
> hello everyone,
>
> new to the group..
>
> i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help
> others if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.
>
> this has been a hobby of mine for years.
>
> i am a mother of 5. from pa.

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Is anyone on this list from the area near W. Damascus, PA and willing to
check cemeteries and/ or local newspapers?

I'm looking for the birth and death dates of Phebe (Merritt) Scott.  She
died between 1888 and 1890 based on two different accounts I've found
(an online tree and her husband's obit).  She lived in West Damascus,
Wayne Co, PA and her husband's (Richard Scott's) obit says he was buried
in Damascus, so it seems likely they are in the same plot.

I have been in touch with the Wayne Co. Historical Society, but they
said they do not have burial listings for this couple.

If anyone can check out the cemeteries in that area and possibly take a
picture of Phebe's stone or check local newspapers, I'd be happy to
reimburse you for gas and your time.

Joy Weaver




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Hi,
In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American Revolution
or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor or has
anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is required to
apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to prove the
relationship.
 
Carolyn DeGroff
The more we share; the more we learn.
http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
 
 

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To prove your ancestor is just what you should already be doing.  You will need
actual documents that show your connection back to the ancestor and then
documentation that they were part of the revolution.

Here is a link about membership:

http://www.dar.org/natsociety/become_member_how.cfm

Happy Hunting!!

Tina Stedman



--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
>  
> Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American
Revolution or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor
or has anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is
required to apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to
prove the relationship.
>  
> Carolyn DeGroff
> The more we share; the more we learn.
> http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
> Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
>  
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

what was richard's birth and death dates?
middle name?
Is Phebe spelled like that or Phoebe?
thx

Sunny
IBSSG



> To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: joyweave@...
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:24:04 -0400
> Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] West Damascus, Wayne Co, PA cemetery help
needed
>
> Is anyone on this list from the area near W. Damascus, PA and willing to
> check cemeteries and/ or local newspapers?
>
> I'm looking for the birth and death dates of Phebe (Merritt) Scott. She
> died between 1888 and 1890 based on two different accounts I've found
> (an online tree and her husband's obit). She lived in West Damascus,
> Wayne Co, PA and her husband's (Richard Scott's) obit says he was buried
> in Damascus, so it seems likely they are in the same plot.
>
> I have been in touch with the Wayne Co. Historical Society, but they
> said they do not have burial listings for this couple.
>
> If anyone can check out the cemeteries in that area and possibly take a
> picture of Phebe's stone or check local newspapers, I'd be happy to
> reimburse you for gas and your time.
>
> Joy Weaver
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Searching for your ancestry? You'll find great help at Ancestry.Com
>
> http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=5647408&siteid=18621718
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


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Funny this came in my inbox-I was just inquiring abt this and a friend emailed
me back. She is a Regent in her area.

She said if you have a proven patriot (one that is in DARs system and not
'closed'), you would need to prove from yourself to that member with
documentation.
Where you get to the point that you tie in, you would still show the lineage in
the application, but for the documentation you would show as your resource 'DAR
member xxxxx'

Documenation from you to 'DAR member xxxxx' requires:
your: birth cert, marriage
parents: bc, marriage, death
grandparents: bc, marriage, death
....back to 'DAR member xxxxx'.

You have to be able to 'connect the dots' to tie from generation from the next.
In the earlier generations where there may not be bc, or dc, they will accept
wills, pension applications, obituaries, etc.
Sunny
IBSSG




> To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: carcross02@...
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:33:38 -0700
> Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Revolutionary War Link and Sons of the
American Revolution or DAR?
>
> Hi,
> In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
>
> Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American
Revolution or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor
or has anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is
required to apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to
prove the relationship.
>
> Carolyn DeGroff
> The more we share; the more we learn.
> http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
> Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
>
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Ran into a question that I have no idea about. I know that the entire family
used to get their citizenship when the head of family, usually the
husband/father, was granted his citizenship. Does anyone know when it changed? I
am looking at an ancestor and IO find her husband getting his citizenship in
1910 in New York. Would his wife gotten her's then also?


Bob

Check the citizenship section of the 1910 or if it happened after the
census was taken try the 1920.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Bob <r_c_boss@...> wrote:

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>
>
> Ran into a question that I have no idea about. I know that the entire
> family used to get their citizenship when the head of family, usually the
> husband/father, was granted his citizenship. Does anyone know when it
> changed? I am looking at an ancestor and IO find her husband getting his
> citizenship in 1910 in New York. Would his wife gotten her's then also?
>
> Bob
>
>
>



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The USCIS (the old Immigration and Naturalization Service' launched a genealogy
section on their website a few years ago.  They might be able to answer the
question, as well as provide some documents for a fee that exist after a certain
point.



________________________________
  From: Bob <r_c_boss@...>
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:29 PM
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Question on American Citizebship


 
Ran into a question that I have no idea about. I know that the entire family
used to get their citizenship when the head of family, usually the
husband/father, was granted his citizenship. Does anyone know when it changed? I
am looking at an ancestor and IO find her husband getting his citizenship in
1910 in New York. Would his wife gotten her's then also?

Bob




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Hi- the DAR patriot list is a public site.  The following link will take you to
the page with Connelly on it.  The second one is Capt. Henry Connelly.  If you
click on the right it will take you to the second page which list about 60
people who have joined the DAR under Capt. Henry Connelly.  Some of them show
that they have supporting documention available.  Some show descendancy.
 
Hope this helps


--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:


From: Carolyn <carcross02@...>
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Revolutionary War Link and Sons of the
American Revolution or DAR?
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 2:33 PM



 



Hi,
In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American Revolution
or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor or has
anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is required to
apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to prove the
relationship.
 
Carolyn DeGroff
The more we share; the more we learn.
http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
 
 

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I am sorry - I forgot to include the link!
 
 

http://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/default.cfm
--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:


From: Carolyn <carcross02@...>
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Revolutionary War Link and Sons of the
American Revolution or DAR?
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 2:33 PM



 



Hi,
In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American Revolution
or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor or has
anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is required to
apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to prove the
relationship.
 
Carolyn DeGroff
The more we share; the more we learn.
http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
 
 

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This is a ever changing law, at one period of time American Citizen Women
married  to a foriegn man she had to apply to become a American citizen. 
Check with the NARA for the changing laws.


Lee Taylor-Elliott

From: Bob <r_c_boss@...>
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 1:29 PM
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Question on American Citizebship


 
Ran into a question that I have no idea about. I know that the entire family
used to get their citizenship when the head of family, usually the
husband/father, was granted his citizenship. Does anyone know when it changed? I
am looking at an ancestor and IO find her husband getting his citizenship in
1910 in New York. Would his wife gotten her's then also?

Bob




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Contact your local DAR they will have someone to help you with the process.
Don't try to try it on line the fun part of DAR is the other ladies you will
meet.


Lee Taylor-Elliott

From: Carolyn <carcross02@...>
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:33 AM
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] Revolutionary War Link and Sons of the
American Revolution or DAR?


 
Hi,
In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
Has anyone else found information on either the Sons of the American Revolution
or the Daughters of the American Revolution connected to an ancestor or has
anyone applied to either organization? I would like to know what is required to
apply and how difficult it is to obtain the necessary evidence to prove the
relationship.
 
Carolyn DeGroff
The more we share; the more we learn.
http://www.artfire.com/users/CSDDesign
Blog: http://csddesignbeadbits.blogspot.com/
 
 

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I'm doing research on Johnson/Johnston /Burgess in Venango county, if you can
help I would love to talk with you. 


Lee Taylor-Elliott

From: Roberta Baum <toutietree@...>
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group


 

Welcome, Shorty: This is a good place to start your search. If you live in
Venango Co., I need help with a few ppl. Roberta Baum
To: genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com
From: angels_wings_77@...
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Genealogy Research Club] new to the group

hello everyone,

new to the group..

i'm researching quite a few ppl at the time and thought i'd like to help others
if they may need my assistance. as i may need theirs.

this has been a hobby of mine for years.

i am a mother of 5. from pa.



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It looks like the change occurred in 1922.  See
http://www.ourarchives.wikispaces.net/Naturalization

On 6/6/2012 4:29 PM, Bob wrote:
> Ran into a question that I have no idea about. I know that the entire
> family used to get their citizenship when the head of family, usually
> the husband/father, was granted his citizenship. Does anyone know
> when it changed? I am looking at an ancestor and IO find her husband
> getting his citizenship in 1910 in New York. Would his wife gotten
> her's then also?

If you're married you may have to submit your marriage license.  You need your
birth certificate, the birth and depending on their status, the death
certificates of both parents, then the grandparents of the patriot line (birth
and death) and so on unless you can tie into a relative who has previously
applied via that same line.  I had a great-aunt who was a member so I have to
also prove my relationship to her.  Right now I have a hiccup on mine because I
didn't have birth and death records for my grandparents, I had used a census. So
before you send in the application, be sure you have those things.  I've also
heard some folks say they've had to submit divorce records also.  They want to
have a clear line in case you have children or grandchildren that may want to
join later down the road.  It doesn't matter if it's a DAR or SAR ... if you can
tie into one or the other as a relative of the applicant, it will be good.

--- In genealogyresearchclub@yahoogroups.com, Carolyn <carcross02@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> In doing my ancestor research I have found a connection to a Capt. Henry
Connelly who served in NC during the Revolutionary War, he is my 5th
Great-Grandfather. I have seen copies where other descendents applied to the
Sons of the American Revoluntion, but I have not seen where anyone applied to
the Daughters of the American Revolution.