People have trouble with their water and testing,one thing to do befor
testing,rinse your test viles or whatever you use,when setting up a
tank,use a good brand name tap water conditioner,even if using well
water or spring water,because of heavy metals,like
copper,cholrine,minerals harmfull to fish,ect.its a good idea to change
25% of your water everyweek,change filter carbon every month,rinse
filters as often as needed,keep your tank a steady temp,and
remember,ambient temp can change the temp in tank enough to cause some
fish stress,such as in winter,or if your tank is where the sun can
shine on it. rinse your plants befor adding them to your tank,float
your new fish for atleast 10 minutes,and within 5 minutes of
floating,tear a small hole in the bag and let some of your tank water
in,it helps the fish adjust to your water.

My friend has little brown flea like critters leaping on the surface of
his tank. They dont swim, but sit on the surface water tension. He said
they are about the size of large daphnia and leap about 1/2 an inch.
Does any one know what they are? Thanks.

I am clearly having very little luck with my fish. Now one of the eyes
of my fish has... well the best way to describe it has turned into a
bubble. All my fish are now acting healthy and the water tests showed
normal. Please, could anyone suggest what is wrong with my fish and
how I can help. I admit that not long a go I put in some organic waste
eliminator and a liquid that help filtaration, but the instructions
said it was completely fine providing I added the correct dosages,
which I did. Could little fishy be having some sort of a bad reaction?

Thanks again,

Stefan.

--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "vulcannuk" wrote:
> I am clearly having very little luck with my fish. Now one of the eyes
> of my fish has... well the best way to describe it has turned into a
> bubble.

And the results of the water tests I suggested you needed to run
immediately in response to your post titled "Sad Fish" from over a
week ago were... ???

Patrick

I WAS WANDERING IF YOU CAN HELP ME. I HAVE A 10 GALLON TROPICAL FISH AQUARIUM
AND WANT TO SWITCH TO A 29 GALLON AQUARIUM. SHOULD I KEEP THE OLD WATER FROM
THE 10 GALLON TO ADD TO THE 29 GALLON OR SHOULD I JUST START THE NEW TANK WITH
ALL FRESH WATER? ALSO WHAT KIND OF WATER CONDITIONER DO YOU USE? ALSO SOMEONE
TOLD ME TO PUT WATER CONDITIONER PALLETS IN THE TANK THAT MAKES THE WATER
CLEAR IT 'S THE KIND THAT YOU USE FOR POOLS . I'VE BEEN DOING IT AND IT REALY
WORKS.
I ALSO HEAR SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT WATER CHANGE. SOME SAY ONCE A
MONTH SOME SAY EVERY WEEK OR SOME SAY TWICE A WEEK I WOULD REALY LIKE TO KNOW
WHAT
IS THE BEST.
THANKS SO MUCH
GREETINGS SUSANNE


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Hello all,
I need to clear some space in my living room and I have about 12 or more 1-2
inch apple snails available for sale/adoption. Obviously it's too cold to
mail them so hopefully one of you living in the area is interested. They are
docile but ravenous eaters and would not be appropriate for a planted tank.
Please email me off list if you are interested and make an offer. They are
beautiful and healthy and will breed easily under good conditions.
Emily


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I have a75 gl tank that I want to make into a celebes rainbow biotope
any suggestions on set up and fish that live with them in nature would
be appreciated

Hi Suzanne -
When I change to a bigger aquarium I always fill the new tank halfway
with fresh tap water (dechlorinated of course) and fill the new tank
the rest of the way with water from the old tank.  The old water is
full of beneficial bacteria that the fish need.
I also do water changes on a two week basis - some say more often and
some say that you don't need to do it that often.  I find it's
whatever works good for the fish and yourself.
Good luck!

- Heather K.

THANKS SO MUCH !
GREETINGS SUSANNE


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Hi Friends;
    When I get new fish to add, I put them into a 5 gal bucket
(reserved for " just this occasion") taking them out of the bag
first,  then i use an air hose i'm no longer using for the tanks to
trickle water into the bucket.  this serves three purposes, the
first is not introducing water from the lfs into my tanks, second is
to acclimate them to the water in the tank to reduce stress and
possible temperature changes, and third is to do a water change in
the process.  for when the bucket is about half full, or full
depending on which tank i'm working with,  I net them out and put
them into the tank.  the water I use for my plants.   This process
might not be right for everyone, but it works for me.  Good luck to
all.......John
--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "nonya" <schaff189@...>
wrote:
>
> People have trouble with their water and testing,one thing to do
befor
> testing,rinse your test viles or whatever you use,when setting up
a
> tank,use a good brand name tap water conditioner,even if using
well
> water or spring water,because of heavy metals,like
> copper,cholrine,minerals harmfull to fish,ect.its a good idea to
change
> 25% of your water everyweek,change filter carbon every month,rinse
> filters as often as needed,keep your tank a steady temp,and
> remember,ambient temp can change the temp in tank enough to cause
some
> fish stress,such as in winter,or if your tank is where the sun can
> shine on it. rinse your plants befor adding them to your
tank,float
> your new fish for atleast 10 minutes,and within 5 minutes of
> floating,tear a small hole in the bag and let some of your tank
water
> in,it helps the fish adjust to your water.
>

just wanted to say I'm back.  will be dropping some of my groups.
receving 1000's weekly.  but enjoy them anyway.  Hope everyone has a
Happy Thanksgiving.  know it's early but not sure when get to write
again.
all foster kitties are at their homes
have my two left.  Misty and Midnight are happy together.
my fish are doing great.  have a 55 gal community fish.  55 gal
ciclid tank.  29 gal working on.  will have semi-aggressive in.  have
a 10 gal with babies in that borrowing til the babies are bigger.  2
gal with a ciclid that is waiting for his new parent.
daughter and son doing great in school.  just miss my daughter.  gone
2 states away for college.  son still home.
things are getting a lot better know with mil being next door.

May God Bless You All!!!!

tammy
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Hi All,

Like most everybody else, I am tired of those posting webcam,
financing and stock posts to aquarium/fish groups.  This group hasn't
had much activity.  If you get this message also through another
group, I apologize, but I'm interested in finding those who are
seriously interested in their aquarium/fish hobby and I'm going
through the groups that I am a member to find those with non-aquarium
posts or no activities.

If you are interested in aquariums and tropical fish, please visit my
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/tropical-fish/ group.  I've just
purged this group of all inappropriate posts and posters.

I've also started doing a lot of updating in our private club.
http://Aquarium-Club.com  If you would like a FREE membership, please
fill out the Join form at http://aquarium-club.com/join.htm  In the
Special Savings section, just put in "Invitation from freshwater
aquariums", so I know and I can approve and add you.  You'll get an e-
mail, once I add your e-mail address to the database, so you have
access.  This may take a few days, because I wish to see what some
have posted so that we only have the nice folks interested in fish in
this club.

You can also find more aquarium information and fish for sale at:
http://Rare-Tropicalfish.com and
http://Aquarium-Fish.biz

Will Griffin

--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, tropicalfishnet wrote:
> If you get this message also through another
> group, I apologize, but I'm interested in finding those who are
> seriously interested in their aquarium/fish hobby and I'm going
> through the groups that I am a member to find those with
> non-aquarium posts or no activities.
>
> If you are interested in aquariums and tropical fish, please visit my
> http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/tropical-fish/ group.  I've just
> purged this group of all inappropriate posts and posters.

Since we are plugging other groups, this one...

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/aquaria-freshwater/

is freshwater only and has never had any off topic or spam posts. The
owner (me) and moderators of the group take great care to keep the
group free of spam and on topic. It has been a little slow lately, so
feel free to drop in, say hi, ask a question, etc.

Patrick

My parents are watching my aquarium and my mom noticed one of the comet
goldfish with a string of silver feces hanging off the anus. Obviously, the
string of feces is normal since it's a planted tank and the goldfish nibble
the plants all day, but the color concerns me.

The aquarium was just moved to my parents house on Nov. 18th and the silver
feces were noticed in only one of several fish on Nov. 21st. I have not
seen the fish since last weekend but my mom described it as the color of
mercury (in a thermometer) with a metallic look. This same fish had a
similar symptom a month or so ago but I assumed that it was because I had
fed them some scuds. This particular fish is a little thinner than the
others but seems healthy and acting normal in all other respects.

I don't think it's water related because I do regular partial water
changes and the tank has been established for about a year and a half (I
saved most of the water during the move and all of the gravel obviously).
The fish have been treated in the last couple of months with both
antibacterial and antiparasite food (not at the same time).

Any ideas on what could be causing this and what to do?
Emily


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I have a Clown Loach in a 16 gallon tank.  However, I am now reading
info that says they need a minimum of 30 gallons!
Is this really the case?  Had I known that I wouldn't have gotten him.
I have had him for probably 6 months.  I also have one glo danio and a
couple of guppies.  He has a nice cave and there are live plants for
them. He eats great, looks good and doesn't seem scared.
I was going to get another, but that is when I saw the tank size
requirements.
Any advice on what I should do? Obviously I shouldn't get another, but
I realize they are schooling.
Help!!
Thanks,
Lisa

--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <marz365@...> wrote:
>
> My friend has little brown flea like critters leaping on the surface
of
> his tank. They dont swim, but sit on the surface water tension. He
said
> they are about the size of large daphnia and leap about 1/2 an inch.
> Does any one know what they are? Thanks.
>

Lisa,

Clown Loaches can grow up to 12 inches. Keeping an animal in an
environment that simply isn't big enough for them to reach maturity
can have very detrimental effects on your loach and is unethical in
my opinion. I would highly reccomend selling him back to the LFS or
giving him to another person that can care for him properly.


Best Regards,
Kevin

--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Rambo"
<canineclara@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Clown Loach in a 16 gallon tank.  However, I am now
reading
> info that says they need a minimum of 30 gallons!
> Is this really the case?  Had I known that I wouldn't have gotten
him.
> I have had him for probably 6 months.  I also have one glo danio
and a
> couple of guppies.  He has a nice cave and there are live plants
for
> them. He eats great, looks good and doesn't seem scared.
> I was going to get another, but that is when I saw the tank size
> requirements.
> Any advice on what I should do? Obviously I shouldn't get another,
but
> I realize they are schooling.
> Help!!
> Thanks,
> Lisa
>

Hi Lisa
        I complitly agree with Kevins stance on this sort of issue,
fish are much more sensitive than most people give them credit for.
How ever there is a 3rd option!!!! Sounds like a graite excuse to
upgrade to a bigger tank to me :-). Most good fish stores will take
in unwanted fish (for what ever reason). Don't feal guilty for
buying him, in my opinun it's the responsabilety of the fish store
to make sure anyone buying a fish, is able to care for it's needs,
after all they are the exsperts! I know most don't do this but they
should! the one I use dose and will simply refuse to sell a fish to
some one unsutible, I respect them for that and drive a ways to shop
there knowing thier good people, they allso only stock captive breed
fish and take in unwanted or rescued fish, I bought a pair of
Kirbensis a while back, who bread stait away and then set about
harasing the rest of the tank members (more than normal) I rang the
store and they took them and thier babys back and exchanged them
some more fish of equall value.

Martin



--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Rambo"
<canineclara@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Clown Loach in a 16 gallon tank.  However, I am now
reading
> info that says they need a minimum of 30 gallons!
> Is this really the case?  Had I known that I wouldn't have gotten
him.
> I have had him for probably 6 months.  I also have one glo danio
and a
> couple of guppies.  He has a nice cave and there are live plants
for
> them. He eats great, looks good and doesn't seem scared.
> I was going to get another, but that is when I saw the tank size
> requirements.
> Any advice on what I should do? Obviously I shouldn't get another,
but
> I realize they are schooling.
> Help!!
> Thanks,
> Lisa
>

Thanks for the reply Martin,
   I try to be so careful when I purchase fish.  I swear that Petsmart had a
thing saying the loach would only get to be 6 inches.  That is what I remember. 
I always have less fish in my tank than I technically can so they aren't
overstocked and I get smaller fish than I have to (except for this loach
incident).  I wish I could go bigger, but the expense is not in the budget right
now.  the loach is only about 31/2-4 inches right now.  Do you think it is
harming him if I keep him a little longer?  He's not exhibiting any stress
behavior right now.
   Thanks, Lisa

bodfrass <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           Hi Lisa
I complitly agree with Kevins stance on this sort of issue,
fish are much more sensitive than most people give them credit for.
How ever there is a 3rd option!!!! Sounds like a graite excuse to
upgrade to a bigger tank to me :-). Most good fish stores will take
in unwanted fish (for what ever reason). Don't feal guilty for
buying him, in my opinun it's the responsabilety of the fish store
to make sure anyone buying a fish, is able to care for it's needs,
after all they are the exsperts! I know most don't do this but they
should! the one I use dose and will simply refuse to sell a fish to
some one unsutible, I respect them for that and drive a ways to shop
there knowing thier good people, they allso only stock captive breed
fish and take in unwanted or rescued fish, I bought a pair of
Kirbensis a while back, who bread stait away and then set about
harasing the rest of the tank members (more than normal) I rang the
store and they took them and thier babys back and exchanged them
some more fish of equall value.

Martin

--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Rambo"
<canineclara@...> wrote:
>
> I have a Clown Loach in a 16 gallon tank. However, I am now
reading
> info that says they need a minimum of 30 gallons!
> Is this really the case? Had I known that I wouldn't have gotten
him.
> I have had him for probably 6 months. I also have one glo danio
and a
> couple of guppies. He has a nice cave and there are live plants
for
> them. He eats great, looks good and doesn't seem scared.
> I was going to get another, but that is when I saw the tank size
> requirements.
> Any advice on what I should do? Obviously I shouldn't get another,
but
> I realize they are schooling.
> Help!!
> Thanks,
> Lisa
>






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--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Rambo wrote:
> I swear that Petsmart had a thing saying
> the loach would only get to be 6 inches.

Hi Lisa,

Thought I would add my thought & knowledge to the discussion. You
will find that many books reference Clown Loaches as up to a foot.
However in an aquarium, even a large one, they grow very slowly and
are not likely to ever reach that size. In fact, I have NEVER seen
one that large. The only truly large ones I have ever seen are in
public aquariums and even those were not a foot long. So they are not
like, for example, an Oscar where when they say nearly a foot, they
mean it!

My own experience with Clown Loaches is that they grow quickly when
small, for example a 2-inch/5cm one will probably hit 4-inches/10cm
within 6-months, but then after that they might add another inch or
two over the course of the next 3-5 years. Of course larger tanks
will likely allow for faster growth rates than smaller tanks. I think
if you asked a bunch of people who have actually kept Clown Loaches
what is the largest one that have had, you probably won't find anyone
who will claim anything much bigger than 6-inches.

They are, however, very beefy fish, so keep that in mind when loading
a tank. A 4-inch Clown Loach can have a lot of mass to it, to will
use proportionally more oxygen and make more wastes than many other 4-
inch fish.


> I wish I could go bigger, but the expense is not in the budget
right now.

Ya, but as I said, Clown Loaches tend to be slow growers as well as
long lived, so the nice thing about them is that unlike an Oscar,
Pacu, bala shark, etc. you have plenty of time to move them up to a
larger tank. Not that you should crowd them or anything in a ten
gallon for example, but I think Clown Loaches can like in, say, a 30
gallon for many years before having to be moved up to something
larger.


>  the loach is only about 31/2-4 inches right now.
> Do you think it is harming him if I keep him a little longer?
>  He's not exhibiting any stress behavior right now.

My main concern is NOT the size, but that you only have one. Clown
Loaches are very social and really do best with at least three of
them. They love to cram together in tight caves (I always gave mine a
PVC pipe fitting that they spent most of their time dog piled on each
other in). So my opinion is that you should get rid of this fish, not
because it will get too big, but because you are not getting more of
them.

Since you are only in a 16-gallon tank right now, I don't think you
can really add any more. If you had a 30 gallon, I would say add a
couple more and you should be ok for a few years, but a 16-gallon is
pretty tight and these fish really need to be in a school of their
own species.

Patrick

Hi Lisa
          I think we all slip up some times through no bodys fault
rearly, those kirbensis I bought shouldn't of been a problem but
thease two took the parenting role a bit too seriously and went on
the rampage claiming the whole tank as their teritory and killing
two fish. The important thing is when thease unexpected problems
turn up that we deal with them and not let the fish suffer as a
result. I would of said that your Clown Loach will be more than ok
long enough for you to find him a good home, theres no need to panic
he's not in immediate danger or anything. As Patrick said it's more
the issue of compainy for him and his eventule body mass, but he
wont grow over night and he will be fine on his own for a while,
long enough for you to do right by him.
Why were you drawn to buy him, was he to do a jod, or did you just
like the look of him? Just trying to think of a possible suitible
replacement.

Martin


--- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, Lisa Rambo
<canineclara@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Martin,
>   I try to be so careful when I purchase fish.  I swear that
Petsmart had a thing saying the loach would only get to be 6
inches.  That is what I remember.  I always have less fish in my
tank than I technically can so they aren't overstocked and I get
smaller fish than I have to (except for this loach incident).  I
wish I could go bigger, but the expense is not in the budget right
now.  the loach is only about 31/2-4 inches right now.  Do you think
it is harming him if I keep him a little longer?  He's not
exhibiting any stress behavior right now.
>   Thanks, Lisa
>
> bodfrass <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>           Hi Lisa
> I complitly agree with Kevins stance on this sort of issue,
> fish are much more sensitive than most people give them credit
for.
> How ever there is a 3rd option!!!! Sounds like a graite excuse to
> upgrade to a bigger tank to me :-). Most good fish stores will
take
> in unwanted fish (for what ever reason). Don't feal guilty for
> buying him, in my opinun it's the responsabilety of the fish store
> to make sure anyone buying a fish, is able to care for it's needs,
> after all they are the exsperts! I know most don't do this but
they
> should! the one I use dose and will simply refuse to sell a fish
to
> some one unsutible, I respect them for that and drive a ways to
shop
> there knowing thier good people, they allso only stock captive
breed
> fish and take in unwanted or rescued fish, I bought a pair of
> Kirbensis a while back, who bread stait away and then set about
> harasing the rest of the tank members (more than normal) I rang
the
> store and they took them and thier babys back and exchanged them
> some more fish of equall value.
>
> Martin
>
> --- In freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com, "Lisa Rambo"
> <canineclara@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a Clown Loach in a 16 gallon tank. However, I am now
> reading
> > info that says they need a minimum of 30 gallons!
> > Is this really the case? Had I known that I wouldn't have gotten
> him.
> > I have had him for probably 6 months. I also have one glo danio
> and a
> > couple of guppies. He has a nice cave and there are live plants
> for
> > them. He eats great, looks good and doesn't seem scared.
> > I was going to get another, but that is when I saw the tank size
> > requirements.
> > Any advice on what I should do? Obviously I shouldn't get
another,
> but
> > I realize they are schooling.
> > Help!!
> > Thanks,
> > Lisa
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be who you are and say what you feel,
> because those who mind don't matter
> and those who matter don't mind.
> -Dr. Seuss
>
>
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boy do I wish I could I lived closer to you.  trying to get some for my tanks.


Emily Tenczar <etenczar@...> wrote:
           Hello all,
I need to clear some space in my living room and I have about 12 or more 1-2
inch apple snails available for sale/adoption. Obviously it's too cold to
mail them so hopefully one of you living in the area is interested. They are
docile but ravenous eaters and would not be appropriate for a planted tank.
Please email me off list if you are interested and make an offer. They are
beautiful and healthy and will breed easily under good conditions.
Emily

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I have just acquired a pressurized flask set for CO2 injection into the planted
aquarium. I need to make the flask fill with CO2. But, they said that industrial
type could not be used for CO2 injection since it may contain some extra harmful
gases and I should use a food type. I am aware of that we people living in
different countries might be using different ways (stores, types etc) to obtain
CO2 gases but I just need your recommendations on whether this is true or not
and also want to learn what kind of stores you generally buy CO2 from,
especially for this purpose?

Thanks

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Hello folks, I was wondering if you have an idea of what might be wrong with
my goldfish (oranda, about 3" long)

Last night I came home and noticed him on his right side at the bottom of
the tank. Now, it is not unusual for him to be at the bottom of the tank,
but usually when I tap he gets excited and starts swimming around. However,
he seems as though he is unable to right himself and attempts to swim around
but can't.

A couple of months ago this fish was attacked by a tankmate and lost his
left eye. He recovered, but I'm wondering if this has anything to do with
it.

He has no obvious signs of disease or parasites. I haven't changed anything
in the tank; nothing different about the food, water, etc. except that I
added a little pH buffer last night but that was after he started acting
weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want to put in antibiotics if
that's not what's needed.

Emily


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--- "Emily Tenczar"  wrote:
> I haven't changed anything
> in the tank; nothing different about the food, water, etc. except
that I
> added a little pH buffer last night but that was after he started
acting
> weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want to put in
antibiotics if
> that's not what's needed.

Emily,

When was the last time you did a water change? How big a tank is
this? How many other fish and what kind are in there? What is the pH
of the tank? Have you measured ammonia or nitrites lately?

But if you haven't done it in a while, first order of business is to
start a series of small partial water changes on a daily basis.

Patrick

I did a water change last week. PH is around 6.8. I ran out of nitrite test
strips but I can check the ammonia and nitrate tonight. last time I checked
all were fine.
Emily

On 12/21/06, Patrick Timlin <ptimlin@...> wrote:
>
>   --- "Emily Tenczar" wrote:
> > I haven't changed anything
> > in the tank; nothing different about the food, water, etc. except
> that I
> > added a little pH buffer last night but that was after he started
> acting
> > weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want to put in
> antibiotics if
> > that's not what's needed.
>
> Emily,
>
> When was the last time you did a water change? How big a tank is
> this? How many other fish and what kind are in there? What is the pH
> of the tank? Have you measured ammonia or nitrites lately?
>
> But if you haven't done it in a while, first order of business is to
> start a series of small partial water changes on a daily basis.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>


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do you add salt ever?

--- Emily Tenczar <etenczar@...> wrote:

> I did a water change last week. PH is around 6.8. I
> ran out of nitrite test
> strips but I can check the ammonia and nitrate
> tonight. last time I checked
> all were fine.
> Emily
>
> On 12/21/06, Patrick Timlin <ptimlin@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >   --- "Emily Tenczar" wrote:
> > > I haven't changed anything
> > > in the tank; nothing different about the food,
> water, etc. except
> > that I
> > > added a little pH buffer last night but that was
> after he started
> > acting
> > > weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want
> to put in
> > antibiotics if
> > > that's not what's needed.
> >
> > Emily,
> >
> > When was the last time you did a water change? How
> big a tank is
> > this? How many other fish and what kind are in
> there? What is the pH
> > of the tank? Have you measured ammonia or nitrites
> lately?
> >
> > But if you haven't done it in a while, first order
> of business is to
> > start a series of small partial water changes on a
> daily basis.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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Sorry to hear about your fish.I hope there is something you can do to save your
fish.
I just lost 2 of my Orandas. They both were over 6" and were absolutely
beautiful. I found out that they had swim bladder. So you might want to check
into that. Orandas are known for this condition, because when they eat their
food, they suck in a lot of air.
I was told to buy sinking pellets.
Hope this info helps. Keep us posted.

Karen
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Emily Tenczar
   To: freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:46 AM
   Subject: Re: [Freshwater Aquariums] Re: Goldfish laying on its side at the
bottom of the tank


   I did a water change last week. PH is around 6.8. I ran out of nitrite test
   strips but I can check the ammonia and nitrate tonight. last time I checked
   all were fine.
   Emily

   On 12/21/06, Patrick Timlin <ptimlin@...> wrote:
   >
   > --- "Emily Tenczar" wrote:
   > > I haven't changed anything
   > > in the tank; nothing different about the food, water, etc. except
   > that I
   > > added a little pH buffer last night but that was after he started
   > acting
   > > weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want to put in
   > antibiotics if
   > > that's not what's needed.
   >
   > Emily,
   >
   > When was the last time you did a water change? How big a tank is
   > this? How many other fish and what kind are in there? What is the pH
   > of the tank? Have you measured ammonia or nitrites lately?
   >
   > But if you haven't done it in a while, first order of business is to
   > start a series of small partial water changes on a daily basis.
   >
   > Patrick
   >
   >
   >

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello;   I have three Bluefin Killies, two have white Worm like
thingies on the fins and IN the body.  I need a cure ! Can some one
help ?  Randy

yes sinking pellets do help we also tell customers if
they are gonna feed flakes hold then in there finger
tips and put there hand in to the water and let go
making the flakes sink.

PS gold fish also love oranges not sure if you know
that.  cut and orange in 8ths, peas but u need to pop
them before giving them to the fish.

ROb
--- Karen <DKAtkerson@...> wrote:

> Sorry to hear about your fish.I hope there is
> something you can do to save your fish.
> I just lost 2 of my Orandas. They both were over 6"
> and were absolutely beautiful. I found out that they
> had swim bladder. So you might want to check into
> that. Orandas are known for this condition, because
> when they eat their food, they suck in a lot of air.
>
> I was told to buy sinking pellets.
> Hope this info helps. Keep us posted.
>
> Karen
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Emily Tenczar
>   To: freshwateraquariums@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:46 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Freshwater Aquariums] Re: Goldfish
> laying on its side at the bottom of the tank
>
>
>   I did a water change last week. PH is around 6.8.
> I ran out of nitrite test
>   strips but I can check the ammonia and nitrate
> tonight. last time I checked
>   all were fine.
>   Emily
>
>   On 12/21/06, Patrick Timlin <ptimlin@...>
> wrote:
>   >
>   > --- "Emily Tenczar" wrote:
>   > > I haven't changed anything
>   > > in the tank; nothing different about the food,
> water, etc. except
>   > that I
>   > > added a little pH buffer last night but that
> was after he started
>   > acting
>   > > weird. I added a bit of salt, but I don't want
> to put in
>   > antibiotics if
>   > > that's not what's needed.
>   >
>   > Emily,
>   >
>   > When was the last time you did a water change?
> How big a tank is
>   > this? How many other fish and what kind are in
> there? What is the pH
>   > of the tank? Have you measured ammonia or
> nitrites lately?
>   >
>   > But if you haven't done it in a while, first
> order of business is to
>   > start a series of small partial water changes on
> a daily basis.
>   >
>   > Patrick
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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