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&gt; 1. The oath is....meant to be.... honored by <br>&gt; one's own belief in libertarian responsibility.<br> <br>Exactly my point, and why I thought it...
shadowstrider
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Aug 2, 2001
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Shadow, you made a couple of good points. My thoughts on this:<br>1. The oath is not meant to be legally binding in any US state or fed court. It's meant to be...
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Aug 2, 2001
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Other problems I see with NH:<br> <br>It has some coastline. Fine there. The foreign border part is tenuous though, being separated, as it is, by the St...
shadowstrider
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&gt; Should the language be toned down, with some <br>&gt; kind of opt-out clause explicitly provided?<br> <br>I don't see why it's necessary, considering that...
shadowstrider
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I personally would like to cast a vote for Wyoming. It seems nice and out of the way....
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Sorry to disagree with you, but I don't believe NH is an optimum choice. I lived there 3 years, and to put it bluntly they're just a more conservative version...
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New Hampshire is fine with me. If we all agree on that, let's also identify one or two cities to start with. The fist step should not so much control over an ...
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Aug 2, 2001
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Might as well jump into the fray here and give my opinion on where to start.<br><br>I see several objectives for the state we pick.<br><br>1)The state needs to...
sean_masters
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Aug 2, 2001
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cogent article! <br><br>thank you.<br><br>Sierra...
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Are we going for pop density or total state population?<br><br>Here is a location for absolute numbers:<br><a...
catalyst1024
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Aug 1, 2001
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The population statistics in the previous post were in absolute numbers. The ten least populous states, based on population density (1990 census) ...
pack_rat2
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Aug 1, 2001
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What do you folks propose should be the order of events?<br><br>Here are some of my thoughts...<br><br>I agree it's is critical we get the Pledge and Bylaws...
catalyst1024
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Aug 1, 2001
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And Delaware and Rhode Island are quite restrictive, too....
pack_rat2
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Aug 1, 2001
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Hawaii is definitely a no-no. Their gun-laws are worse than those in New York state....
pack_rat2
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Aug 1, 2001
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New Hampshire is the best option that I have read, so far. Median household income in NH=$42,023 vs. national median=$37,005. NH is well below the national ...
jondave09
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Aug 1, 2001
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I really like this idea. Some years ago, there was a plan for libertarians to buy an island, somewhere, and create a libertarian country. But nothing ever...
pack_rat2
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Aug 1, 2001
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Occurs to me that political statistics are significant. Currently compiling list of states and # votes cast for gubernatorial candidates in each state in 2000...
ludwigvmises
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Aug 1, 2001
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vroman, your scaled system idea is excellent. In my previous message, I focused only the need for the inner ring people, but you are right, our goal is best ...
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Aug 1, 2001
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I would propose a scaled system. The outermost ring would be those interested in the project and willing to support it from their home states, but not willing...
vroman18
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Aug 1, 2001
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Are these statistics showing the state's total population or just the density relative to size?<br>I would think that only the former figure would be relevant...
vroman18
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Jason, I would argue against toning it down. We are looking for people who are committed to this idea. Someone who requires a toned down version of the pledge...
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Interesting. Rhode Island looks good by these criteria. But its political culture is very liberal. Same w/ Delaware & Hawaii. That makes New Hampshire look ...
jason_sorens
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Aug 1, 2001
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Here is a quick summary of the 10 least populous states in the US (as of 7/99):<br><br>NAME POP/1000 DENSITY/sq.mile<br>Wyoming 498 5<br>Vermont 594...
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Aug 1, 2001
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I agree that everything has to be electoral. If the feds send in the troops, I think we'd have no choice but to back down. If I were single, I might be willing...
jason_sorens
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Aug 1, 2001
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I've gotten an email from two people who are concerned that the language of the "pledge" was too strong, that it sounded like some kind of loyalty oath, which ...
jason_sorens
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I agree.<br>maybe were getting ahead of ourselves here, but what kind of 'military clout' do states have?<br>I supose they have law enforcement resources and ...
vroman18
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Aug 1, 2001
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I think it is probably best to inform people about it by the word of mouth. As juggle2drop in the Liberty Bandwagon has mentioned, if too many non-libertarians...
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Aug 1, 2001
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"What do you think should be included?"<br>A right of secession. One of the main planks (if not the most talked about) of this project should be that if ...
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To all members:<br>How do you think we should best diseminate our ideas? Focus primarily on mainly libertarian circles? Invest in public advertisements? ...
vroman18
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