I am gonna be holding a FSP meetup for October 21st at 7pm in the Twin
Ports area. You can email me at irishlibertarian76@... or post
here. If you want, sign up for the Twin Ports FSP Group through
meetup.com also. That will give me a better knowledge of how much food
too make or where too hold it. Anyone and everyone is welcome. just
bring your thinking cap and the courage to argue with me if it comes
too that....lol. wink wink. Hope to hear or see some of you all soon.
LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!!!!

Porcupine Steve

I think this is very relevant to FSP recruiting. We need passionate
people. It doesn't matter if we are hated by some, as long as others
love us.
http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2006/10/dilbert_and_the.ht\
ml
If everyone exposed to a product likes it, the product will not
succeed... The reason that a product "everyone likes" will fail is
because no one "loves" it. The only thing that predicts success is
passion, even if only 10% of the consumers have it.

The FSP mission is minimalist, reflected in the Statement of Intent:

"I hereby state my solemn intent to move to the state of New
Hampshire. Once there, I will exert the fullest practical effort
toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of civil
government is the protection of life, liberty, and property."

By taking a lowest-common-denominator approach, we create a framework
within which other groups can work according to their own preferences.
The NHU, the NHLA, the RLC, and anyone else can recruit people with
messages and styles that appeal to various types of libertarians. The
FSP has the Liaisons
http://freestateproject.org/volunteer/liaisons
to reach out to people with different interests, e.g. gun freedom,
marriage freedom, or drug freedom.

The FSP, like ice cream, should appeal to all libertarians. There is
no need to insist on one flavor.

If someone wants to take an approach that would effectively re-brand
the FSP, we might ask him to not use the FSP name and logo, and focus
on selling New Hampshire as The Free State.

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Gavin" <selfishgene1776@...>
wrote:
>
> I think this is very relevant to FSP recruiting. We need passionate
> people. It doesn't matter if we are hated by some, as long as others
> love us.
>
http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2006/10/dilbert_a
nd_the.html
> If everyone exposed to a product likes it, the product will not
> succeed... The reason that a product "everyone likes" will fail is
> because no one "loves" it. The only thing that predicts success is
> passion, even if only 10% of the consumers have it.
>

Not exactly the case.  Nobody _loves_ frozen bagels or frozem "meals", but I
don't see the Lenders or Swanson companies going out of business anytime soon.

The theory may work with politicians and operating systems.  Not in real life
with real products.
--
Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd@...

When you let people do whatever they want, you get Woodstock. When you let
governments do whatever they want, you get Auschwitz.       Doug Newman

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> I think this is very relevant to FSP recruiting. We need passionate
> people. It doesn't matter if we are hated by some, as long as others
> love us.
>
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> ml
> If everyone exposed to a product likes it, the product will not
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My first thought in response is BOCTAOE. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOCTAOE
see coined phrases)

I read Scott Adam's original post on the subject in his blog. He's primarily
talking about introducing new products. Lender's and Swanson have been in wide
distribution for many years and have name recognition. Try introducing a new
brand of frozen bagel that lots of people like in a taste test and compete with
Lender's. I wouldn't risk my money investing in that. Read the original post by
Scott Adam's.

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/10/knowing_when_to.html

Dale in L.A.














             Not exactly the case.  Nobody _loves_ frozen bagels or frozem
"meals", but I don't see the Lenders or Swanson companies going out of business
anytime soon.













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Thanks to your vote we finished last month in 5th place at Podcast
Alley.  The number one show?  A show about Harry Potter.  We'll need
to double our votes to get to first place.

Please take a moment and vote for Free Talk Live.  It only takes a
moment and directly results in new listeners finding the Free State
Project.

http://vote.freetalklive.com  (Leave a comment if you like!)

Thank you for listening,
Ian
Host, "Free Talk Live"
http://freetalklive.com

"He who must not be named" is responsible. I voted for
FTL, your show Rocks!

Ryan
--- ftl_ian <ian@...> wrote:

> Thanks to your vote we finished last month in 5th
> place at Podcast
> Alley.  The number one show?  A show about Harry
> Potter.  We'll need
> to double our votes to get to first place.
>
> Please take a moment and vote for Free Talk Live.
> It only takes a
> moment and directly results in new listeners finding
> the Free State
> Project.
>
> http://vote.freetalklive.com  (Leave a comment if
> you like!)
>
> Thank you for listening,
> Ian
> Host, "Free Talk Live"
> http://freetalklive.com
>
>
>
>




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Yahoo.com
(http://www.yahoo.com/preview)

Hello all.

I got a request over the summer from a Free Stater living in FL who's been
doing all the right things, but still not having much luck on finding the
right NH position.  I've suggested resume revision, and put out some feelers
with placement folks I know in NH - I mention that so input to her doesn't
cover the same ground over and over.  She's been watching the forums, but I
thought I'd put this out for other Free Staters to eyeball with any personal
contacts they might have.

Here is her resume and contact information:
http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=12054.0 .  Please email
all responses to her directly.  Even if you don't have a position
opportunity to refer to her, even your own success stories in the NH job
search might be encouraging -- if you've been there, you know what the
process (and some HR folks) are like.

Thanks for your attention, and please pardon any redundancies.  I can't keep
track of which "doers" are on one list but not another.
Lynn

Lynn Pina
NH Info & NH Jobs Coordinator
FreestateProject.org

Check out our NH Jobs resources at:
http://www.freestateproject.org/nhinfo/Jobs.php

Post your resume under NH Jobs, Positions Wanted at:
http://forum.freestateproject.org/

Check out NH housing and other community/logistical information at:
http://www.freestateproject.org/nhinfo/

If you've already moved, please update your status at:
http://secure.freestateproject.org/

Be sure to join us at the next Porcupine Festival:
http://www.freestateproject.org/news/festival/

and pledge to be one of the First 1,000!
http://www.pledgebank.com/first1000


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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555119,00.html

Jon Maltz suggested that we use the "Email Article" link on the website to
send the article to friends and so on. If enough people do that, it will
end up on the "top emailed" stories. I think that's an excellent idea and
have done it myself. I encourage everyone else to do likewise!

Jason

Tried to send it to 5 friends, thing gave me an error, something about cookies,
but my cookies are quite open for web usage.
Didn't want to re-enter 5 email addresses.

Gary T

"It is better to have a bad plan, than no plan at all"

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Jason Sorens
   To: freestateproject@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:09 PM
   Subject: [FSP] Time magazine on the FSP



   http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1555119,00.html

   Jon Maltz suggested that we use the "Email Article" link on the website to
   send the article to friends and so on. If enough people do that, it will
   end up on the "top emailed" stories. I think that's an excellent idea and
   have done it myself. I encourage everyone else to do likewise!

   Jason





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For those of us out-of-staters, please can someone tell us how "our"
candidates in the New Hampshire elections fared.


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Joel Winters won, running as a Dem.  All candidates running
as Reps lost.

My personal observation was the large anti-Bush,  the large
vote by young people in our district (1) for Shea-Porter, and
and the lack of a viable candidate at the top of the ticket
doomed our efforts.

In looking at the results, virtually all of these two groups voted
straight Dem.

Perhaps a lesson to be learned by this is we need a better
presence at the colleges and universities, and it is most
difficult to run a campaign from the bottom up.

On a more positive note Joel ran a top notch campaign, and
will represent freedom well in Concord.

Dave

On 11/8/06, Jon Isaac <jon.isaac@...> wrote:
>
>   For those of us out-of-staters, please can someone tell us how "our"
> candidates in the New Hampshire elections fared.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Thanks for the info David. There really seems to be no substitute for
excellent organization, presentation and education of the electorate in
running a successful, winnable campaign. (And you had darn well better have
a R or D behind your name.)

By the way, the FSP article at Time Magazine is now the second most emailed
piece of the week, and appears on the front page of the Time web site.


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There is an existing FSP-BusinessBuilder list, but the owner was
missing in action, it was spammed, and frankly, it's been a dead list.

I've created a new list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FSP-Business

This is NOT a political discussion list, nor a place to argue over
anything else.
This is about making business connections, finding employment/employees, etc.
From the description: "It is for participants and friends of the Free
State Project that are interested in networking with others to work
together, and do business with others of similar pro-liberty
mindsets."

Please feel free to pass this onto others... the list will be lightly
moderated, and troublemakers will be heavily moderated.

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "David Mincin"
<davemincin@...> wrote:
>
> Joel Winters won, running as a Dem.  All candidates running
> as Reps lost.

Well, not quite... but most anyone with a R on the ballot had a large
target on their backs, and the bloodbath took out incumbents in many
places.  The NHLA endorsement list was 132 people, 75 were elected.
Yes, _even_ with the tidal wave, 75 pro-liberty folks were elected.
That's almost 20% of the House.  Not a majority by any means, but a
good sized voice of freedom.

The doom and gloomers will tell you that all is lost.  It's not true.

Yes, a smoking ban is going to pass.  But REALID _will_ die here in
New Hampshire, starting a domino effect elsewhere.
Yes, minimum wage increases are likely to pass.  But so is medical
marijuana.
Yes, we must be on the alert against efforts to raise taxes.  But we
can make real progress on some pro-liberty issues as well.

Plenty more I could rant on, but the idea is clear: this is not the
death of the Free State, but will help it move forward, and even gain
more local support than ever.

I stand corrected, "All freestaters who ran as R's lost."

We will, for all practical purposes have a brand new
legislature and it is way to early to begin speculating about
their agenda.  My guess is they haven't even set an agenda
yet.  Sweet jesus, the swearing in isn't until next month.

I know all the candidates personally and I know they all gave
a maxium effort.  Loosing our first major statewide skirmish
should not be cause for alarm.  Much has been learned and
if we are smart we will put it to useful purpose as we move
forward.

The encouraging  part as I  see it.  We  will have our first
freestater in the legislature, and this is the first time any of
us could run.

I'm very thankful to Joel and his team, and even more thankful
to call him friend.

Dave

On 11/10/06, Seth Cohn <sethcohn@...> wrote:
>
>   --- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com<freestateproject%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "David Mincin"
> <davemincin@...> wrote:
> >
> > Joel Winters won, running as a Dem. All candidates running
> > as Reps lost.
>
> Well, not quite... but most anyone with a R on the ballot had a large
> target on their backs, and the bloodbath took out incumbents in many
> places. The NHLA endorsement list was 132 people, 75 were elected.
> Yes, _even_ with the tidal wave, 75 pro-liberty folks were elected.
> That's almost 20% of the House. Not a majority by any means, but a
> good sized voice of freedom.
>
> The doom and gloomers will tell you that all is lost. It's not true.
>
> Yes, a smoking ban is going to pass. But REALID _will_ die here in
> New Hampshire, starting a domino effect elsewhere.
> Yes, minimum wage increases are likely to pass. But so is medical
> marijuana.
> Yes, we must be on the alert against efforts to raise taxes. But we
> can make real progress on some pro-liberty issues as well.
>
> Plenty more I could rant on, but the idea is clear: this is not the
> death of the Free State, but will help it move forward, and even gain
> more local support than ever.
>
>
>


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How has the REAL ID resistance going in NH? Is there any good news?

J

In a message dated 11/10/06 2:28:20 PM Central Standard Time,
davemincin@... writes:

I stand  corrected, "All freestaters who ran as R's  lost."




we are not giving up. we are still running the RV with the free state  banner
and handing out more and more literature so hopefully by the next  elections
there will be a lot more free staters voting...

more photos here:   _http://www.grannywarriors.com/warwagon.htm_
(http://www.grannywarriors.com/warwagon.htm)




_Granny  Warriors_ (http://www.grannywarriors.com/)

You can check out the supporters page  here:
_http://www.grannywarriors.com/donars.htm_
(http://www.grannywarriors.com/donars.htm)

(https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_xclick&business=timhun@aol.com&item_\
name=Granny%20%20Warriors&item_number=0006&no_shipping=0&no_note=1&tax=0&cu
rrency_code=USD&bn=PP-DonationsBF&charset=UTF-8)
_CentralCaliforniansAgainstNais@yahoogroups.com_
(http://CentralCaliforniansAgainstNais@yahoogroups.com/)






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We're picking it up again for the upcoming legislative session. The bill against
real ID did pass the house, but the senate killed it because Washington sent
people to put pressure on the GOP members in the senate to pass it. .This time
around they probably won't do that and since more democrats are in there,
they're less likely to listen to republican pressure :) But wére going to exert
our own pressure and hopefully it will fail. We're more likely than any other
state in the Union to bring it down.
---- I am who I am <Transition.Force@...> wrote:
> How has the REAL ID resistance going in NH? Is there any good news?
>
> J
>
>
>

We still need to be vigilant, because the Dems probably want this just as
bad as the GOP.  I'll be calling my state legislators about this on the  first
day, and I recommend that everyone do the same, just so that the freshmen  know
that we won't take anything less than complete rejection of real-id.

Furb

In a message dated 11/12/2006 7:04:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
raylworth@... writes:

We're  picking it up again for the upcoming legislative session. The bill
against  real ID did pass the house, but the senate killed it because Washington
sent  people to put pressure on the GOP members in the senate to pass it.
.This time  around they probably won't do that and since more democrats are in
there,  they're less likely to listen to republican pressure :) But wére going
to
  exert our own pressure and hopefully it will fail. We're more likely than
any  other state in the Union to bring it down.
---- I am who I am  <Transition.Force@...> wrote:
> How has the REAL ID  resistance going in NH? Is there any good news?





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--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, Rochelle Aylworth
<raylworth@...> wrote:
>

By the way, when IS the next legislative session? I wanna know so I
can be prepared.
> We're picking it up again for the upcoming legislative session.
The bill against real ID did pass the house, but the senate killed
it because Washington sent people to put pressure on the GOP members
in the senate to pass it. .This time around they probably won't do
that and since more democrats are in there, they're less likely to
listen to republican pressure :) But wére going to exert our own
pressure and hopefully it will fail. We're more likely than any
other state in the Union to bring it down.
> ---- I am who I am <Transition.Force@...> wrote:
> > How has the REAL ID resistance going in NH? Is there any good
news?
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Henry F. J. Semmler"
<mysteriousstate@...> wrote:
>
> By the way, when IS the next legislative session? I wanna know so I
> can be prepared.

From the horse's mouth:
http://www.sos.nh.gov/general2006/after_november_7.htm

Other dates of note:
* Friday, December 8, 2006, 3:00 pm: Last day to file House LSRs
(bills-to-be) with complete information.
* Friday, January 19, 2007, 3:00 pm: Last day to sign off all House LSRs.

"Real action" starts late in January.
To stay informed -- and to take action and make a DIFFERENCE! -- join
the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance right now:
http://nhliberty.org/join

We'll be sending out notices as developments happen, and as we
organize "Field Trips" to the House. These are working trips, where
you meet members of legislature one-on-one, and observe the actual
goings-on. We'll also be organizing training sessions on how to be
effective when testifying before committees, and extremely powerful
action open to all New Hampshire residents.

Muni has posted the election night victory speech of Joel Winters...
worth watching for sure...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GpZ5sbZOSs

Please help spread it far and wide...

"MANCHESTER – The first member of the Free State Project has been
elected to the New Hampshire House although five other candidates
associated with the group did not fare as well. ..."
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Free+State+Project+has+represen\
tative+in+House&articleId=4a220522-6202-48c7-b73a-2e266fcc52f9
http://snipurl.com/1292h
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         BikerBill=-                ©¿©¬
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--= Proud Member - Reality-Based Community =--

Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to revive the FSP meetings & FSP activism in general here
in Utah. I've recently moved to South Jordan, so I'm close enough to
other Utahns now that I can actually get this thing moving.

If you or anyone you know is a FSP or friendly towards the FSP, and
would be interested in getting together for an FSP meeting, please
send me an email so we can get this thing started.

And join the Utah FSP group :)

Josiah

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UtahFSP/

For some reason my response to this got lost.

Anywho, what I was wondering is if the GOP losses are a good thing
for killing the REAL ID.

The reason I'm wondering, is while the Senate Republicans betrayed
the people of NH, it was the House Republicans who got the bill there
in the first place.

Josiah

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UtahFSP/

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, Rochelle Aylworth
<raylworth@...> wrote:
>
> We're picking it up again for the upcoming legislative session. The
bill against real ID did pass the house, but the senate killed it
because Washington sent people to put pressure on the GOP members in
the senate to pass it. .This time around they probably won't do that
and since more democrats are in there, they're less likely to listen
to republican pressure :) But wére going to exert our own pressure
and hopefully it will fail. We're more likely than any other state in
the Union to bring it down.

Why did no one tell me about the Free Lunch Project? True choice requires
options, and now we have them...
http://www.freelunchproject.com/

PS: Thank you to Seth, David, Denis, et al for providing us with news from
the ground. It's great to hear about the action.

Jon

--
A man is none the less a slave because he is
allowed to choose a new master once in a term
of years. - Lysander Spooner


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I hadn't seen that. Brilliant.

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Isaac" <jon.isaac@...>
wrote:
>
> Why did no one tell me about the Free Lunch Project? True choice
requires
> options, and now we have them...
> http://www.freelunchproject.com/
>
> PS: Thank you to Seth, David, Denis, et al for providing us with
news from
> the ground. It's great to hear about the action.
>
> Jon
>
> --
> A man is none the less a slave because he is
> allowed to choose a new master once in a term
> of years. - Lysander Spooner
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Originally it started as a joke on the NH Underground forums, then I
guess they actually made a website about it.

--- In freestateproject@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Isaac" <jon.isaac@...>
wrote:
>
> Why did no one tell me about the Free Lunch Project? True choice
requires
> options, and now we have them...
> http://www.freelunchproject.com/
>
> PS: Thank you to Seth, David, Denis, et al for providing us with
news from
> the ground. It's great to hear about the action.
>
> Jon
>
> --
> A man is none the less a slave because he is
> allowed to choose a new master once in a term
> of years. - Lysander Spooner
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"... 'I'm going to be on the floor and holding the Legislature
accountable to the New Hampshire traditions of honest and open
government, and limited and local government,' said Winters ..."
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/11/26/free_state_project_cheers_o\
ne_of_its_own_in_winters/
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