I understand now. Thanks. The trouble is that FXIconItem->state and
FXIconItem::DRAGGABLE are protected members so one can't do anything in
a derived class. Is there another method of making this happen? My
dervived class implements...

long FileList::onLeftBtnPress( FXObject *sender, FXSelector sel, void
*ptr )
{
    FXEvent *ev = (FXEvent*)ptr;
    FXint index;

    if(isEnabled()) {
       index = getItemAt( ev->win_x, ev->win_y );
       if( 0 <= index ) {
          items[index]->state |= FXIconItem::DRAGGABLE;
          return FXFileList::onLeftBtnPress(sender,sel,ptr);
       }
    }
    return 0;
}

... but this obviously does not work. I can't see where the code
implements this behaviour so I am assuming that I have to do it myself.

fumbling'ly
jim

Jeroen van der Zijp wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > Sorry to be such a pain. I've got the drop thing working with FXFileLIst
> > but the icons aren't draggable. Basically I need to know how to get an
> > FXFileList/FXIconList setup so the the icons are draggable. I've derived
> > from FXFileList and implemented the onBeginDrag, onEndDrag, etc, as per
> > FXColorWell and FXText but those icons just don't drag. *sigh*
> >
> > thanks
> > jim
>
> FXIconList only kicks into dragging mode if item->state has the
> FXIconItem::DRAGGABLE bit set.
>
> The idea [with FXFileList] is to turn this bit on after finding the file
association,
> and registering the mime-type of the association.
>
> When dragging item(s), all the FXDragTypes of the items [+ perhaps a few more
generic
> mime-types] have to be posted in beginDrag.
>
> To interoperate with other XDND enabled applications, the mime-types for
``filename''
> have to be to uri-list [or something like that] set as per th XDND
recommendations.
>
> As far as accepting drops, the FXFileList should of course accept drops of
uri-lists
> but only if the uri's are local [no http://..., ftp://... or such].
>
> The latter requires network access, and I'm not sure that needs to be part of
the widget.
>
> Note that the drop target may in fact ask for the data [and not just the type]
of the dragged
> object before a SEL_DND_DROP has been received.  It should however only
perform its
> thing with the dropped data iff a SEL_DND_DROP is received.  If a
SEL_DND_LEAVE is
> received it should just FXFREE() the data array and forget about the whole
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Is there any way to prevent an event from propagating.

For instance If I use the SEL_PAINT and I don't want the widgets children
to see the event ?

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On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Jeroen,
>
> Sorry to be a nag, but I never saw any responses to the messages
> I sent to the Fox list regarding (1) setting focus is a multi-top
> level window application and (2) keeping modal dialogs on top of
> their application.
>
> I was really hoping to get answers on these, if possible.
>
> --
> Darren Hiebert <Darren_Hiebert@...>
> XonTech, Inc.  (256) 971-2977

The toplevel widgets call XSetFocus when one of their child widgets is
setFocus()-ed.

Whether keyboard actually goes to this window depends on the WM's focus policy.


Dialogs are being kept on top of the main window. XSetTransientForHint() is
called.

Whether or not the dialogs actually stay on top depends on thw WM actually
observing
the hint.

On my system, KWM, WindowMaker, Fvwm2, all seem to behave properly.

Your mileage may vary with other window managers.


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>> But why not use the real thing?

Good question. Actually using the real thing is the most straightforward
approach and probably the one I'll use. What I'm attempting to do was really
an experiment. In effect I'm trying to recreate an element of VB's look and
feel where the 'dialog box' is actually a child of an MDI child window and I
was curious to to see if it could be done in FOX.

Martin
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On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Drat! Drat!
>
> Ok, next question. Can I create a child window that looks like a top level
> window? If not, can I capture an portion of screen into a bitmap so that I
> can *manufacture* the appearance of a top level window?
>
> Thanks.
>

As far as the layout goes, you can of course try to use a FXPacker, which
the same layout algorithm as FXTopWindow.

But why not use the real thing?


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escibe hasn't started archiving yet; but egroups has.
Link to:

http://www.egroups.com/list/fox-users

verbage is your call ;^)

-- Tom.

Jeroen van der Zijp wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > Hi Scott:
> >
> > Info below.
> >
> > eScribe Info wrote:
> > >

[snip]

>
> Thanks.
>
> So we're now being archived somewhere.  I'll see if I can link to the archived
> repository from the FOX web page.
>
> What exactly should I be adding?
>
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>

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Hi Scott:
>
> Info below.
>
> eScribe Info wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your interest in eScribe.com. Here is the simple procedure for
> > starting an archive. Reply to this message and fill out the info below.
> > Once we receive it, we'll get your area set up and send you back
> > instructions for activating your archive.
> >
> > 1. Take a look at the categories on our home page (http://www.eScribe.com/)
> > and determine the category for your list. If your list fits in multiple
> > categories, list them in order of best fit first.
>
> Software
>
> >
> > 2. What's the name of the list (exactly as you'd like it to appear)? *Note:
> > You can omit "mailing list" or "-L" from your name as all archives at
> > eScribe.com are mailing lists.
>
> Fox Users
>
> >
> > 3. What topics are discussed?
>
> Software Development of and for the FOX GUI Cross-Platform library.
>
> >
> > 4. How many subscribers are there?
>
> ~100
>
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> > multiple mailing lists archived here).
>
> ace@...
>
> >
> > 7. Do you have other archived lists already hosted at eScribe.com?
>
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Thanks.

So we're now being archived somewhere.  I'll see if I can link to the archived
repository from the FOX web page.

What exactly should I be adding?


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> I can see that a reference manual has started to appear on the Fox website.
> Will each class also display the methods inherited from its base classes (on
> the same page)? With some other class libraries it is frustrating that you

The tool I'm using allows for a lot of flexibility in the layout.  We can do
anything we want, perhaps even several different formats to suit different
tastes...


> also have to search through the documentation for the base classes if you
> want to see if a specific class has the functionality you want.

Yes, I'm experimenting with some document-generation tools and document
templates.

> Will the Constructors be listed separately from the member functions?

I think it would be useful to separate ctors, suppress message handlers [since
you'd rather know which messages are accepted, and the handler signatures are
all the same anyway].

> btw - could somebody briefly explain some Linux stuff to me?...  I should
> really start to learn more about it. I haven't bothered so far, because i
> only know 2 people who have actually used it.
> I know X-Windows is a graphical environment & that you need a window manager
> to make it look good.  How do these things affect Fox applications? Will fox
> applictions run on any Linux distribution without recompilation? or does it
> depend on the X-Windows version?

FOX does not depend on any particular window manager in any way whatsoever.
Portability between different distributions however depends on versions of
shared libraries available, such as glibc, Mesa, and others.

By and large however executables should run on all distro's.

> Can anyone recommend any good Linux internet resources that i should look
> at?

Most common distro's:

	 www.linux-mandrake.com
	 www.redhat.com
	 www.debian.org
	 www.suse.com

	 www.cheapbytes.com


And countless other linux websites.  If its your first time, I recommend
going to a bookstore or software store and get a boxed distribution.

Most books about linux come with a CD containing linux.




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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > > case.  I also duplicated the message map, mapping each entry back to
> > > FXMDIChild::on___ .  Everything compiled, but I received a segmentation
fault
> >
> > This is not necessary as the message map of the base class is automatically
searched
> > after a search of the derived class's message map fails to find the message.
>
> That greatly simplifies things.  Thank you.
>
> > when a new FXScrollWindow was attached to my derived mdi child object.
> > >
> > > When I commented out the FXScrollWindow lines and there where no
> > > crashes...there were no child windows either.
> >
> > I don't see why this would crash.
>
> I have been able to determine that the segmentation fault occurs within
> FXWindow::FXWindow(); After creating a new FXScrollWindow object.
> Unfortunately, I am having difficulty getting gdb to trace into the fox CPP
> files.
>
> > > So:
> > > 1)  Is overloading the FXMDIChild object the perferred method for
> > > constructing MDI children in FOX?
> >
> > It should not be necessary, but its just fine if you want to do that.
>
> I'm considering overloading FXScrollWindow as that would be usable in MDI and
> non-MDI applications alike.  BTW, why do no child windows appear when no
> FXScrollWindow is attached?  Should this not be the case, and if so is this
> condition indicative of a problem in my FXMDIChild derivation?

I do not know.  All I can say is that in the mditest test program, it works
fine.


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I can see that a reference manual has started to appear on the Fox website.
Will each class also display the methods inherited from its base classes (on
the same page)? With some other class libraries it is frustrating that you
also have to search through the documentation for the base classes if you
want to see if a specific class has the functionality you want.

Will the Constructors be listed separately from the member functions?


btw - could somebody briefly explain some Linux stuff to me?...  I should
really start to learn more about it. I haven't bothered so far, because i
only know 2 people who have actually used it.
I know X-Windows is a graphical environment & that you need a window manager
to make it look good.  How do these things affect Fox applications? Will fox
applictions run on any Linux distribution without recompilation? or does it
depend on the X-Windows version?
Can anyone recommend any good Linux internet resources that i should look
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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Sorry to be such a pain. I've got the drop thing working with FXFileLIst
> but the icons aren't draggable. Basically I need to know how to get an
> FXFileList/FXIconList setup so the the icons are draggable. I've derived
> from FXFileList and implemented the onBeginDrag, onEndDrag, etc, as per
> FXColorWell and FXText but those icons just don't drag. *sigh*
>
> thanks
> jim

FXIconList only kicks into dragging mode if item->state has the
FXIconItem::DRAGGABLE bit set.

The idea [with FXFileList] is to turn this bit on after finding the file
association,
and registering the mime-type of the association.

When dragging item(s), all the FXDragTypes of the items [+ perhaps a few more
generic
mime-types] have to be posted in beginDrag.

To interoperate with other XDND enabled applications, the mime-types for
``filename''
have to be to uri-list [or something like that] set as per th XDND
recommendations.

As far as accepting drops, the FXFileList should of course accept drops of
uri-lists
but only if the uri's are local [no http://..., ftp://... or such].

The latter requires network access, and I'm not sure that needs to be part of
the widget.

Note that the drop target may in fact ask for the data [and not just the type]
of the dragged
object before a SEL_DND_DROP has been received.  It should however only perform
its
thing with the dropped data iff a SEL_DND_DROP is received.  If a SEL_DND_LEAVE
is
received it should just FXFREE() the data array and forget about the whole
thing.


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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> I am developing a small program that is to display a simple vector file in a
> MDI.  I began with the MDI test program that came with FOX and extended from
> there.  I am rather new at FOX so forgive me if I am heading in the wrong
> direction here...  I derived a new MDI window object from FXMDIChild.  I
> overloaded the constructors and simply called the base constructors in each

OK.

> case.  I also duplicated the message map, mapping each entry back to
> FXMDIChild::on___ .  Everything compiled, but I received a segmentation fault

This is not necessary as the message map of the base class is automatically
searched
after a search of the derived class's message map fails to find the message.

> when a new FXScrollWindow was attached to my derived mdi child object.
>
> When I commented out the FXScrollWindow lines and there where no
> crashes...there were no child windows either.

I don't see why this would crash.

> So:
> 1)  Is overloading the FXMDIChild object the perferred method for
> constructing MDI children in FOX?

It should not be necessary, but its just fine if you want to do that.

> 2) Should I instead be creating a new widget to perform the drawing of the
> vector files?

This depends.  You could use FXCanvas [a widget drawn by its target object],
or something derived from FXWindow [a thing that draws itself].

The former is good if the drawing is to be shared among several ``views'', the
latter if it is to be a self-contained widget.


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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> hello, it is Jean REBILLAT.
>
> I have to add widgets in a dynamic way in my application (in response to some
> event like a menu button selection, button press, ...). I can't make it work
> with FOX !!
>
> Below is a slightly modified version of the "hello.cpp" example of FOX.
> The label is not shown. Of course, if I create the label BEFORE the
> app->create() call, it is shown.
> Can you tell me what is wrong or lacks in the code ?
>
> int main(int argc,char **argv){
>   FXApp *app=new FXApp("Hello","Test");
>   app->init(argc,argv);
>   FXMainWindow *main=new FXMainWindow(app,"Hello",NULL,NULL,DECOR_ALL);
>   new FXButton(main,"&Hello, World!",NULL,app,FXApp::ID_QUIT);
>   app->create();
>
>   // adding a new label - but after creation of the application -
>   new FXLabel(main,"New label",0,
> 		     LAYOUT_FILL_X |JUSTIFY_CENTER_X | JUSTIFY_CENTER_Y );
>   main->show();
>   app->run();
>   return 0;
>   }

app->create() recursively creates the X server-part of each widget.  The new
operator just allocates & initializes the client part.

Therefore, if you add widgets AFTER app->create() has already been called, you
need to explicitly call widget->create().



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Sorry to be such a pain. I've got the drop thing working with FXFileLIst
but the icons aren't draggable. Basically I need to know how to get an
FXFileList/FXIconList setup so the the icons are draggable. I've derived
from FXFileList and implemented the onBeginDrag, onEndDrag, etc, as per
FXColorWell and FXText but those icons just don't drag. *sigh*

thanks
jim

Jeroen van der Zijp wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > Thanks for the birdseye. I'm still missing something I'm afraid. Using
> > PathFinder for example,
> >
> > 1. Do I have to register every mime-type there is in order to handle all
> > types of files/icons?
>
> Actually, no.  Only the drag source needs to.
>
> The drop target can ask with app->getDragTypeName(FXDragType dt)
>
> to acquire the mime string and see if it understands it.  Of course, when it
comes
> time to acquire the data, it will have to be a specific type.
>
> > 2. Do each of the icons themselves (FXIconItem - folder types) need to
> > be dropEnabled?
>
> No, dropEnable sets a property to a FXWindow.  This is then discovered by the
> drag source to determine if a window is capable of drops.

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I am developing a small program that is to display a simple vector file in a
MDI.  I began with the MDI test program that came with FOX and extended from
there.  I am rather new at FOX so forgive me if I am heading in the wrong
direction here...  I derived a new MDI window object from FXMDIChild.  I
overloaded the constructors and simply called the base constructors in each
case.  I also duplicated the message map, mapping each entry back to
FXMDIChild::on___ .  Everything compiled, but I received a segmentation fault
when a new FXScrollWindow was attached to my derived mdi child object.

When I commented out the FXScrollWindow lines and there where no
crashes...there were no child windows either.

So:
1)  Is overloading the FXMDIChild object the perferred method for
constructing MDI children in FOX?

2) Should I instead be creating a new widget to perform the drawing of the
vector files?

Much appreciated!
Theron

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Hi Lyle:

The pertinent information is here:
http://www.egroups.com/suggestlist?method=display_moreinfo&listname=fox-users

Here's the relevant snippet:

--8<----
Archives: If you have past archives for this list (Hypermail, unix mbox,
Eudora
mailboxes, etc.), please ftp them to ftp.findmail.com and put them into
/incoming.
(You will not be able to see the files in the incoming directory) Send a
message
to support@egroups.com when you are finished.
--8<----

It looks like they will take the mbox format you mentioned in another
mail.

Just call the tarball something like: fox-users.archive.tar
and then email them with the name.

HTH,
-- Tom.


Lyle Johnson wrote:
>
> This is great! Thanks so much for getting this set up.
>
> I'd be glad to make the tar ball of old messages and ftp it to the site you
> mentioned. But can you tell me what the file name should be, and who I
> notify about uploading it, etc.?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Jordan [mailto:ace@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 2:39 PM
> > To: Lyle Johnson
> > Cc: Daniel Gehriger; Steve Hardy; Fox
> > Subject: Re: FOX-USERS: Documentation
> >
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Lyle Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > > We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
> > >
> >
> >
> > Just added us to
> > http://www.egroups.com/list/fox-users/
> >
> > They have a method of entering in all of the past messages via
> > plopping them in a tar ball at
> > ftp://ftp.findmail.com/incoming
> >
> > Does anyone want to do this?
> >
> > -- Tom.
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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> Thanks for the birdseye. I'm still missing something I'm afraid. Using
> PathFinder for example,
>
> 1. Do I have to register every mime-type there is in order to handle all
> types of files/icons?

Actually, no.  Only the drag source needs to.

The drop target can ask with app->getDragTypeName(FXDragType dt)

to acquire the mime string and see if it understands it.  Of course, when it
comes
time to acquire the data, it will have to be a specific type.


> 2. Do each of the icons themselves (FXIconItem - folder types) need to
> be dropEnabled?

No, dropEnable sets a property to a FXWindow.  This is then discovered by the
drag source to determine if a window is capable of drops.


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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> You are probably right, i'm using a very old version of win95 here, & I may
> not have compiled the samples correctly.  I won't report anything else until
> I make more of an effort to install Fox properly at home :)  I just wanted
> to see what the Fox programs were like.  I am very impressed!
>
> Marcus


I just checked with vmware, they indeed work differently from X11.

Under X11, you get enter/leave even when grabbed, so I will look into the
situation
to see why it doesn't work properly under Windows.


FYI, the FXButton implementation is the same on both machines.  Its just that
X11 and WIN32
subsystem feed the FXApp different events, so in some cases we'll have to
synthesize
events that X11 sends but Windows does not .


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Thanks for the birdseye. I'm still missing something I'm afraid. Using
PathFinder for example,

1. Do I have to register every mime-type there is in order to handle all
types of files/icons?
2. Do each of the icons themselves (FXIconItem - folder types) need to
be dropEnabled?


cheers
jim

Jeroen van der Zijp wrote:
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > I'm trying to get this DND thing happening without success and hoped
> > someone could clue me in. I'm playing with PathFinder as an example. The

>
> There are two sides to this coin:
>
>         1) dragging away from a widget
>         2) dropping into a widget
>
> 1)
>
>         You need to register drag types [using mime-string].

>
> 2)
>
>         You call dropEnable() to register the widget as a drop site.
>

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You are probably right, i'm using a very old version of win95 here, & I may
not have compiled the samples correctly.  I won't report anything else until
I make more of an effort to install Fox properly at home :)  I just wanted
to see what the Fox programs were like.  I am very impressed!

Marcus


--- Original Message ---
>On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > >Thanks very much for the info so far and *please* let me know if you
> > > >notice other bugs under Win95 since, as I said, it doesn't get a lot
> >of
> > >testing there.
> > >
> > >Lyle
> >
> > Maybe i'm just being picky, but the buttons in Fox applications don't
>react
> > in quite the way i'd expect.
>
>Actually, they do.  You must be working under Windows.  The problem is is
>that
>certain versions of Windows do not allow for mouse tracking.  With mouse
>tracking,
>it should work properly.
>
>
> > In windows (i'm not sure about x windows) the button clicked event only
> > occurs if the user presses & releases the mouse button while the cursor
>is
> > still inside the control.  If the user moves the cursor outside the
>button
> > area before releasing the mouse button then the button pops up again &
>the
> > clicked event does not occur.
>
>Note that FXButton sends two callbacks, SEL_COMMAND [the one you'd normally
>catch]
>and SEL_CLICKED [normally ignored].  When double-clicking, you may also
>get SEL_DOUBLECLICKED and so on.
>
>
>You always get SEL_CLICKED regardless of mouse movement.  SEL_COMMAND is
>received
>when pressed and released inside the button, and each time you click.
>
>
> > This is quite a nice feature, because if the user accidentally presses
>the
> > button while moving the mouse then the action is not performed.
>
>I agree, and that's why FOX does it the same way :-)
> >
> >
> > Also try this... i think this is a bug, but it could just be a feature
>;)
>
>No, its a bug, bug not in FOX :-).
>
>It is actually possible that you may have compiled with the wrong #define's
>on the command line.
>
>Under Win95, you may need to load the updated GUI DLL's. [Win98 should be
>OK,
>as should WinNT SP3 or greater].
>
>
> > left click on a button, and when holding down the mouse button drag the
> > cursor outside the button.
> >
> > while still holding the left button press & release the right button.
> >
> >
> > Now if you move the cursor over the button it appears to be pressed.
>Move
> > it away and the button pops back up again.  The button stays in this
>state
> > even if you switch to another application & back again. A bit odd, but
>not
> > too important.
>
>
>
>The correct behaviour can be seen under X-Windows, or under Windows when
>TrackMouseEvent is supported.
>
>
>
> - Jeroen
>
>


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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> >Thanks very much for the info so far and *please* let me know if you
> > >notice other bugs under Win95 since, as I said, it doesn't get a lot >of
> >testing there.
> >
> >Lyle
>
> Maybe i'm just being picky, but the buttons in Fox applications don't react
> in quite the way i'd expect.

Actually, they do.  You must be working under Windows.  The problem is is that
certain versions of Windows do not allow for mouse tracking.  With mouse
tracking,
it should work properly.


> In windows (i'm not sure about x windows) the button clicked event only
> occurs if the user presses & releases the mouse button while the cursor is
> still inside the control.  If the user moves the cursor outside the button
> area before releasing the mouse button then the button pops up again & the
> clicked event does not occur.

Note that FXButton sends two callbacks, SEL_COMMAND [the one you'd normally
catch]
and SEL_CLICKED [normally ignored].  When double-clicking, you may also
get SEL_DOUBLECLICKED and so on.


You always get SEL_CLICKED regardless of mouse movement.  SEL_COMMAND is
received
when pressed and released inside the button, and each time you click.


> This is quite a nice feature, because if the user accidentally presses the
> button while moving the mouse then the action is not performed.

I agree, and that's why FOX does it the same way :-)
>
>
> Also try this... i think this is a bug, but it could just be a feature ;)

No, its a bug, bug not in FOX :-).

It is actually possible that you may have compiled with the wrong #define's
on the command line.

Under Win95, you may need to load the updated GUI DLL's. [Win98 should be OK,
as should WinNT SP3 or greater].


> left click on a button, and when holding down the mouse button drag the
> cursor outside the button.
>
> while still holding the left button press & release the right button.
>
>
> Now if you move the cursor over the button it appears to be pressed.  Move
> it away and the button pops back up again.  The button stays in this state
> even if you switch to another application & back again. A bit odd, but not
> too important.



The correct behaviour can be seen under X-Windows, or under Windows when
TrackMouseEvent is supported.



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OK I'll add these to the bugs list.

I did check things out on my PC at home last night, which is a Pentium 133
running Windows 95. Compiled the 0.99.55 distribution of FOX using Microsoft
Visual C++ 5.0 and the icons looked OK (that is, they were transparent where
they were supposed to be). I ran several of the test programs (textedit,
glviewer, window and some others) to confirm this. I also changed my color
depths between 32-bit true color and 256 color mode and things still looked
OK.

Is anyone else out there seeing problems with icon transparency under Win95?
I wonder if it's some kind of graphics driver-dependent thing?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fox-users@... [mailto:owner-fox-users@...]On
> Behalf Of Marcus Ellington
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:00 AM
> To: fox-users@...
> Subject: FOX-USERS: Fox Buttons
>
>
>
> >Thanks very much for the info so far and *please* let me know if you
> > >notice other bugs under Win95 since, as I said, it doesn't get
> a lot >of
> >testing there.
> >
> >Lyle
>
> Maybe i'm just being picky, but the buttons in Fox applications
> don't react
> in quite the way i'd expect.
>
> In windows (i'm not sure about x windows) the button clicked event only
> occurs if the user presses & releases the mouse button while the
> cursor is
> still inside the control.  If the user moves the cursor outside
> the button
> area before releasing the mouse button then the button pops up
> again & the
> clicked event does not occur.
>
> This is quite a nice feature, because if the user accidentally
> presses the
> button while moving the mouse then the action is not performed.
>
>
>
> Also try this... i think this is a bug, but it could just be a feature ;)
>
> left click on a button, and when holding down the mouse button drag the
> cursor outside the button.
>
> while still holding the left button press & release the right button.
>
>
> Now if you move the cursor over the button it appears to be
> pressed.  Move
> it away and the button pops back up again.  The button stays in
> this state
> even if you switch to another application & back again. A bit
> odd, but not
> too important.
>
>
>
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You are correct that these commands will get you the plain text messages (in
mbox format). What I was hoping for (and what the e-groups thing provides)
is an easier-to-read, HTML-ified version of the same.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fox-users@... [mailto:owner-fox-users@...]On
> Behalf Of Marcus Ellington
> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 8:36 AM
> To: fox-users@...
> Subject: FOX-USERS: Documentation
>
>
> >Lyle Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > > We really, really need to figure out how to archive this
> mailing list :)
> > >
>
> i'm not sure, but i think that there is already an archive
> maintained by the
> mailing list server that we are using.
>
> Try sending an email to "Majordomo@...".  Use the following
> commands
> replacing [<list>] with the name fox-users...
>
>
> index [<list>]
>   Return an index of files you can "get" for <list>.
>
>
> get [<list>] <filename>
>   Get a file related to <list>.
>
>
> who [<list>]
>   Find out who is on the named <list>.
>
>
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>   Retrieve a help message.
>
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This is great! Thanks so much for getting this set up.

I'd be glad to make the tar ball of old messages and ftp it to the site you
mentioned. But can you tell me what the file name should be, and who I
notify about uploading it, etc.?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Jordan [mailto:ace@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 2:39 PM
> To: Lyle Johnson
> Cc: Daniel Gehriger; Steve Hardy; Fox
> Subject: Re: FOX-USERS: Documentation
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Lyle Johnson wrote:
> >
> > We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
> >
>
>
> Just added us to
> http://www.egroups.com/list/fox-users/
>
> They have a method of entering in all of the past messages via
> plopping them in a tar ball at
> ftp://ftp.findmail.com/incoming
>
> Does anyone want to do this?
>
> -- Tom.
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For those using the Win32 distribution of FxPy, you may be looking for the
resource wrapper (I was unable to find it), so I wrote up this little script
to do the (trivial) work.

'''
Python resource wrapper for the Fox GUI library

All we need to do is to convert a GIF file to
a list of integers.
Released into the public domain, with no guarantees or assurances.
Use at your own risk.
'''

def _loadResource (filename):
	 '''
	 Loads a binary file into a list of byte integers
	 This would be more efficient using an array.
	 This function is suitable for run-time loading.
	 '''
	 return map (ord, open (filename, "rb").read ())

def asSourceCode( data, hexadecimal=None, numberPerLine=20 ):
	 '''
	 returns the data as a python source string
	 without white space, to make for smaller source files
	 '''
	 import string
	 # copy data
	 data = data[:]
	 if hexadecimal:
		 # hexadecimal format in Python code is guaranteed to take at least as
much,
		 # and normally more space than plain integer for numbers under 256, so,
		 # hexadecimal is not something I would recommend...
		 formatter = hex
	 else:
		 formatter = str
	 outdata = ['[']
	 while data:
		 # note that the following does not add trailing ','s
		 outdata.append( string.join( map( formatter, data[:numberPerLine] ), ","))
		 outdata.append( ',\n')
		 del data[ :numberPerLine]
	 outdata.append( ']')
	 return string.join( outdata, '')

usage = '''foxresource.py infile [outfile]'''

def main ():
	 import sys
	 if sys.argv [1:]:
		 filename = sys.argv [1]
		 data = _loadResource (filename)
		 if sys.argv [2:]:
			 outfilename = sys.argv [2]
			 open (outfilename,'w').write ( asSourceCode(data) )
		 else:
			 print asSourceCode(data)
	 else:
		 print usage
if __name__ == "__main__":
	 main ()

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1) Documentation.

    We're working on it.  I'm setting up template files for the ``PERCEPS'' code
documentation
    system.  I've found a few problems with perceps, and have requested for a few
new facilities,
    which will hopefully be implemented soon by the author [if not, I've gotten
into PERL myself
    and I think I can add these things if necessary].

2) Love to see what you have developed in Fade.  I'm always eager to augment
FOX.

3) I'll see what it takes to add you to the FOX mailing list.






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>Lyle Johnson wrote:
> >
> > We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
> >

i'm not sure, but i think that there is already an archive maintained by the
mailing list server that we are using.

Try sending an email to "Majordomo@...".  Use the following commands
replacing [<list>] with the name fox-users...


index [<list>]
   Return an index of files you can "get" for <list>.


get [<list>] <filename>
   Get a file related to <list>.


who [<list>]
   Find out who is on the named <list>.


help
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>Thanks very much for the info so far and *please* let me know if you
> >notice other bugs under Win95 since, as I said, it doesn't get a lot >of
>testing there.
>
>Lyle

Maybe i'm just being picky, but the buttons in Fox applications don't react
in quite the way i'd expect.

In windows (i'm not sure about x windows) the button clicked event only
occurs if the user presses & releases the mouse button while the cursor is
still inside the control.  If the user moves the cursor outside the button
area before releasing the mouse button then the button pops up again & the
clicked event does not occur.

This is quite a nice feature, because if the user accidentally presses the
button while moving the mouse then the action is not performed.



Also try this... i think this is a bug, but it could just be a feature ;)

left click on a button, and when holding down the mouse button drag the
cursor outside the button.

while still holding the left button press & release the right button.


Now if you move the cursor over the button it appears to be pressed.  Move
it away and the button pops back up again.  The button stays in this state
even if you switch to another application & back again. A bit odd, but not
too important.



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Hi Lyle:

Up still here. ;-)

I resubmitted the request to geocrawler.
We'll see if they do it this time around.

Although since requesting the addition of this list to
http://www.egroups.com/list/fox-users/
a few minutes ago, they already have a couple of messages
archived.

(Now how long can I remain the top poster ??  ;^)

HTH,
-- Tom.

Lyle Johnson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote:
> > > We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
> >
> > I think it was archived already.
> >
>
> I know that Thomas Jordan (are you still out there ;)? had contacted
> Geocrawler (http://www.geocrawler.com) about archiving the fox-users list
> but that doesn't appear to have ever started. I've just visited their page
> and couldn't find any mention of fox-users under the "Developer", "General",
> "Linux" or "Miscellaneous" categories.
>
> I have some software called Hypermail that I can use to semi-manually
> archive the list. The output of this looks pretty nice but that's just one
> more thing for me to keep up with and I'm not up for it. Does anyone know of
> any other automatic (*free*) archiving sites out there, like Geocrawler
> claims to be?
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Hi Jeroen:

Lyle Johnson wrote:
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> We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
>


I've also request another archive at
http://www.escribe.com

They need to validate the request with you, Jeroen.
So expect them to email you shortly.

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Hi:

Lyle Johnson wrote:
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> We really, really need to figure out how to archive this mailing list :)
>


Just added us to
http://www.egroups.com/list/fox-users/

They have a method of entering in all of the past messages via
plopping them in a tar ball at
ftp://ftp.findmail.com/incoming

Does anyone want to do this?

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