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San Bruno Mountain Oral History ---Save The Bay

Some historical perspective on Measure W
http://www.mountainwatch.org/mountainwire/herstory/ludrake/index.htm
Luman C Drake
Brisbane Citizens for Civic Progress
...The plan was that the dumping would cease when the garbage lot on the outside of the freeway was full. But we wanted them to stop the dumping on the inside of the freeway, to conclude it then. The garbage companies were working like mad to close the lands around Sierra Point because the Acts to "Save The Bay" was coming up and anything subject to tidal action on May 31, 1965 was going to have to be quote "saved." So they had to get the dikes closed on the land outside the freeway before May 31, 1965. Well they worked day and night to close those dikes. They got the land over there from Candlestick Hill and those trucks went down the road, on the inside of the freeway there, day and night, nonstop. The lights were on at all hours of the day and night. The truck traffic there was just like ants going to a chocolate box and they had a hell of a time closing those dikes. They had to bring in wire fencing to hold everything together, so it wouldn't all slump into the mud. Well they got the dikes closed so therefore they beat the BCDC deadline and they could fill it with garbage once it was not subject to tidal action.


Check this out:
http://www.mountainwatch.org/mountainwire/herstory/paulgoercke/index.htm

1960's Chairman of the Brisbane Citizens for Civic Progress

Paul Goercke....

The Mountain and the Bay

During 1965 we had a visit from Warren Cramner from City Bank, in New York, owned by the Rockefellers and he told the council that they had a little plan to give San Bruno Mountain a haircut. They called it a haircut. They were gonna take 50 feet, they said, off part of the mountain. Now before dear old Bruce Brugman became owner of the Bay Guardian, he worked for the Redwood City Tribune as a photographer. And he saw this machinery going on, on the mountain up here, so he went and took pictures of it.

Westbay Associates had dug an area the size of a football field, on the southern slopes of the mountain. And that's when Bruce began to contact Luman and the Brisbane Citizens for Civic Progress and others. And he said, "Look you guys, this is a giant thing they're planning up here, this is no little thing." So it turns out they had a little plan-the largest earthmoving job since the China Wall. The Great Wall of China, you know, you can photograph it from the moon, you can see it. And this was going to be a little thing they were doing here. Gonna give the mountain a haircut. It turns out they were gonna take the mountain down and it was just gonna be a giant flat area up to the antennas-that little part up there, Radio Ridge, was gonna be left.

They weren't going to take the Saddle down but they were going to develop the whole Saddle Area. The plan was to take down the mountain, by conveyor belt, over the freeway and over the Sierra Point dump. This is why saving the bay was important to saving the mountain, and vice-versa-it all fits together.




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... Please do not pull signs! Let's everyone please stay on the ethical high ground. If signs are being pulled, let's do our best to make sure they get...
Adrian Brandt
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Oct 14, 2008
10:07 pm

Got a report that numerous of call have come in complaining about our signs Yes on Measure W being pulled....This is terrible. SavetheBay is for protecting...
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Oct 15, 2008
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/mar/879912884.html Is this the No on W people hiring? $12-18 per hour: Environmental Organizer (redwood city) Reply to:...
Selene Verecunda
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Oct 16, 2008
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Hell must surely have frozen over, Adrian, because I find myself agreeing with you on this point. I'm sure there are teenage bedroom walls fairly plastered...
Barb Valley
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Oct 16, 2008
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I talked to someone with FoRWC yesterday that remembers the same things happening with Q...pulling out our signs against the high rises.... KevenBailey@......
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Oct 16, 2008
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Keven, Every election period campaign signs disappear. And they are usually found plastered on the walls of teenage bedrooms. Trust me, the No on W folks...
Barb Valley
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Oct 20, 2008
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During Measure Q, we had some eyewitness reports of adults -- not teenagers -- pulling signs. One day I happened upon dozens of our Q signs in one of the ...
Adrian Brandt
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Oct 20, 2008
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Barb, Your so full of it...the signs are taken by the Measure V and No on W groupies...I talked to the kids they had no idea other than they do not believe in ...
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Oct 20, 2008
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Barb and All, I am not aware of any instances of"No on W" signs being pulled. Much as many of us in the campaign revile them, we recognize that in this coutry,...
Marianna Raymond
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Oct 21, 2008
3:27 pm

... They are being pulled!! But we ARE BETTER than them, that stoop to the usual dishonest, unsportsmanlike conduct of stealing, lieing, deception and fear...
Merrily Robinson
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Oct 21, 2008
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Times like this, it pays to have a camera ready. A picture is worth a thousand words. ... tactics to...
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Oct 21, 2008
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Marianna and all, NO on W signs are being pulled. You are not aware of it because they are quietly being replaced. No one on the opposition has accused ...
Barb Valley
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Oct 22, 2008
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Some Election Humor--in case you all hadn't seen it!  Fantastic Fun!!! Tina Fey and Sarah Palin on Saturday Nite Live ...
Selene Verecunda
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Oct 22, 2008
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I spoke with a homeowner on Tuesday who changed her own signs from "no" to "yes". People are changing their minds and their signs. Judy...
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Oct 26, 2008
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Comment to the posts here, I would say going out and pulling No on W signs in retaliation would never enter any ones mind in Measure W's campaign. I have seen...
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Oct 21, 2008
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You keep on truckin' barb. GJ ... From: Barb Valley <bjvalley@...> To: forwc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 9:07:33 AM Subject:...
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Oct 22, 2008
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Thanks for the encouragement, GJ! Barb...
Barb Valley
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Oct 27, 2008
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Barb, I think you got it wrong...they are quietly pulling Measure W signs while replacing them with NO on W. Keven **************Play online games for FREE at...
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Oct 24, 2008
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My brother's Yes on W sign was stolen from his front lawn last night and replaced with a No on W sign. If these people don't like the United States...
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Oct 27, 2008
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I have a security system with five outside camera's unfortunately I didn't have the recorder going? **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All...
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Oct 24, 2008
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Yes, sometimes it doesn't come to mind while the action is taking place...cell phone camera or any kink of camera will get the job done. Today I got some good...
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Oct 26, 2008
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Yah, It is really bad when you got to explain to someone each time someone pulls the sign to call the office for someone to replace it...they told me someone ...
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Oct 27, 2008
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Some historical perspective on Measure W http://www.mountainwatch.org/mountainwire/herstory/ludrake/index.htm Luman C Drake Brisbane Citizens for Civic...
Selene Verecunda
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Nov 18, 2008
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Wrong it is not just a bunch of punk kids....that was my first impression...later to find Measure V and No on W are pulling Yes on Measure W signs...To be ...
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