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#84383 From: "dflyingmoose_99" <dflyinmoose@...>
Date: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:01 am
Subject: Re: UL: Carrier Footage
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Jayman,

The deep space thingy was the "other" best youtoob I had seen in awhile.



--- In FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com, Jay D <rdd3959@...> wrote:
>
> good one, Moose
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: dflyingmoose_99 <dflyinmoose@...>
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:41:22 AM
> Subject: UL: Carrier Footage
>
>
> This one is well worth the time to view, no matter what you fly.
>
> http://www.youtube. com/watch_ popup?v=9dR3h2Hd nBQ
>
> -Moose
>

#84382 From: mac andrews <mack2fly@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: UL: Carrier Footage
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Yup,sure brings the reality of war home to the visitors. Very nice video!!! 10/10

--- On Tue, 2/9/10, Jay D <rdd3959@...> wrote:

From: Jay D <rdd3959@...>
Subject: Re: UL: Carrier Footage
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:02 AM

 
good one, Moose


From: dflyingmoose_ 99 <dflyinmoose@ hotmail.com>
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:41:22 AM
Subject: UL: Carrier Footage

 
This one is well worth the time to view, no matter what you fly.

http://www.youtube. com/watch_ popup?v=9dR3h2Hd nBQ

-Moose




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#84381 From: Jay D <rdd3959@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: UL: Carrier Footage
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good one, Moose


From: dflyingmoose_99 <dflyinmoose@...>
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:41:22 AM
Subject: UL: Carrier Footage

 

This one is well worth the time to view, no matter what you fly.

http://www.youtube. com/watch_ popup?v=9dR3h2Hd nBQ

-Moose



#84380 From: "dflyingmoose_99" <dflyinmoose@...>
Date: Tue Feb 9, 2010 2:41 pm
Subject: Carrier Footage
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This one is well worth the time to view, no matter what you fly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=9dR3h2HdnBQ

-Moose

#84379 From: "whitesteep" <floydlong@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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Only if its a cross-over. Magellan makes the XOG and I think Lowrance makes one.
I have the XOG and use it in my truck and in the air on my PPC. Highly recommend
it.




--- In FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com, billy <framed30@...> wrote:
>
> i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in
the air?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
> Subject: Re: UL: GPS
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Depends on what you want in a GPS. 
>
>
> I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and
sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000
hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your
own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view
you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground
speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home
airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and
inexpensive - as you can get.
>
>
> At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
> It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've
seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS,
with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line.
It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come
out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 -
you can get them for less at the big airshows.
>
>
> Arty
> Maxair Drifter
> Sandy, OR
>
>
>
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
> Subject: UL: GPS
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM
>
>
>  
>
> Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but
for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys
suggest?
>
> Thanks
>

#84378 From: ROGER MILLS <irsmiley@...>
Date: Fri Feb 5, 2010 3:11 pm
Subject: RE: UL: GPS
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Check this out, looks great, under $10 bucks.
http://app-store.appspot.com/
Select Navigation on left list
Search SkyCharts in box
 
I sent an inquiry re use on i pad and other devices.  You can download a chart and fly it offline so connectivity is not an issue,  GPS needs to be working tho.  Tap an airport and get full details.  Has north up or nose up and full moving map of VFR/IFR current charts.  Also has direct to with speed distance ETE etc., and IFR approach plates.  Takes about 4.5 meg.
 

To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
From: rockandrollfish@...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 13:54:38 -0800
Subject: Re: UL: GPS

 
You guys should get an iPhone and download SkyCharts.  It's friggin awesome!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:

 

At 01:15 PM 2/4/2010, John Collins wrote:

 
Cheap way out:  Buy any current Garmin, download (and pay the small price for) a copy of Mapwell.  You can then scan and input any map you want (including sectionals) and fly them on the Garmin.  No aviation database, however.

I tried Mapwel.  Bottom line is you'd have to do a LOT of work to make the map turn out anything like readable.  I also tried some others, and ended up writing my own program to convert scanned charts, before concluding the screen on a handheld is simply too small for a scanned chart... and it bogs the GPS down horribly, taking several minutes to draw it on the screen every time you move.

That's why I changed my approach to just airports and airspace.

-Dana

--
 I intend to live forever or die trying.



#84377 From: Dave's Yahoo <rockandrollfish@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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You guys should get an iPhone and download SkyCharts.  It's friggin awesome!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@...> wrote:

 

At 01:15 PM 2/4/2010, John Collins wrote:

 
Cheap way out:  Buy any current Garmin, download (and pay the small price for) a copy of Mapwell.  You can then scan and input any map you want (including sectionals) and fly them on the Garmin.  No aviation database, however.

I tried Mapwel.  Bottom line is you'd have to do a LOT of work to make the map turn out anything like readable.  I also tried some others, and ended up writing my own program to convert scanned charts, before concluding the screen on a handheld is simply too small for a scanned chart... and it bogs the GPS down horribly, taking several minutes to draw it on the screen every time you move.

That's why I changed my approach to just airports and airspace.

-Dana

--
 I intend to live forever or die trying.



#84376 From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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At 01:15 PM 2/4/2010, John Collins wrote:
 
Cheap way out:  Buy any current Garmin, download (and pay the small price for) a copy of Mapwell.  You can then scan and input any map you want (including sectionals) and fly them on the Garmin.  No aviation database, however.

I tried Mapwel.  Bottom line is you'd have to do a LOT of work to make the map turn out anything like readable.  I also tried some others, and ended up writing my own program to convert scanned charts, before concluding the screen on a handheld is simply too small for a scanned chart... and it bogs the GPS down horribly, taking several minutes to draw it on the screen every time you move.

That's why I changed my approach to just airports and airspace.

-Dana

--
 I intend to live forever or die trying.

#84375 From: ROGER MILLS <irsmiley@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 6:32 pm
Subject: RE: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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Thanks Bob, but I meant other places, surly Illinois is not the only place this kind of seminar is held.
 

To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
From: bob@...
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:54:55 -0800
Subject: RE: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar

 
On 07:54 AM 2/4/2010, ROGER MILLS wrote:

>Is there a list of where and when the seminars will be held??

Its been several years since I've been there, but basically, this thing is held on the state fairgrounds, in one of the large buildings.

--
Bob Comperini
e-mail: bob@...
WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com



#84374 From: John Collins <oldguyflier@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 6:15 pm
Subject: GPS
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Cheap way out:  Buy any current Garmin, download (and pay the small price for) a copy of Mapwell.  You can then scan and input any map you want (including sectionals) and fly them on the Garmin.  No aviation database, however.

John Collins
San Diego and Panama


#84373 From: Bob Comperini <bob@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 4:54 pm
Subject: RE: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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On 07:54 AM 2/4/2010, ROGER MILLS wrote:

>Is there a list of where and when the seminars will be held??

Its been several years since I've been there, but basically, this thing is held
on the state fairgrounds, in one of the large buildings.

--
Bob Comperini
e-mail: bob@...
WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com

#84372 From: ROGER MILLS <irsmiley@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 3:54 pm
Subject: RE: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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Bob,
Is there a list of where and when the seminars will be held??
 
Roger Mills
 

To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
From: bob@...
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:18:39 -0800
Subject: Re: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar

 
Jim didn't post the website for the event. Here it is: http://www.safety-seminar.com/
--
Bob Comperini
e-mail: bob@...
WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com



#84371 From: "danandkaye" <danandkaye@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: GPS
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http://www.pocketfms.com/

Check out Pocket FMS and use your auto gps. Fantastic aviation software and a
lot cheaper than "any" other alternative...Dan

--- In FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com, Mark Zinkel <dovesmagic@...> wrote:
>
> The GPS units that are used in cars do indeed work in the air. I've tested
> it and it works like a charm. The only thing is that you're looking at roads
> instead of airspace and airports.
>
> I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the
> aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports
> and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road
> based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could
> save us all a lot of money.
>
>
> Any ideas?
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, billy <framed30@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >   i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they
> > work in the air?
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>*wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
> > Subject: Re: UL: GPS
> >
> > To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Depends on what you want in a GPS.
> >
> > I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and
> > sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over
> > 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in
> > all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending
> > on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It
> > also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to
> > fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about
> > as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.
> >
> > At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
> > It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database
> > I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete
> > road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it
> > up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though
> > Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive.
> > Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.
> >
> > Arty
> > Maxair Drifter
> > Sandy, OR
> >
> >
> >
> >
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm<http://www.lessonsfromtheedge.com\
/uladventure2009.htm>
> >
> > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> > Helen Keller
> >
> > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
> > Subject: UL: GPS
> > To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM
> >
> >
> > Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need
> > but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you
> > guys suggest?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#84370 From: Bob Comperini <bob@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 1:18 am
Subject: Re: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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Jim didn't post the website for the event. Here it is:
http://www.safety-seminar.com/
--
Bob Comperini
e-mail: bob@...
WWW: http://www.fly-ul.com

#84369 From: "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 1:11 am
Subject: Re: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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jim,

is there and airport nearby and transportation between the airport and the meeting?

R. Williams



---------- Original Message -----------
From: "jim sweeney" <jimsweeney@...>
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:04:51 -0000
Subject: UL: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar

>  
>
> The 30th annual IUAC Ultralight /Sport Plane Safety Seminar hosted by the Illinois Department of Transportation, Division of Aeronautics, the Illinois Ultralight Advisor Council (IUAC), the FAA Springfield FSDO and the FAASTeam will be held on Saturday February 27, 2010 at the Illinois State Fairgrounds, Illinois Building Auditorium in Springfield, Illinois 62702.
>
> This year's speakers include:
> Earl Lawrence EAA
> Safety & Regulations
> Phil Lockwood Lockwood Aviation
> Rotax 2 Stroke & 4 Stroke Engines
> Doug Fetters Sport-Link Communications
> Making your Communication Equipment Work
> Paul Hamilton Adventure Productions
> Sport Pilot Rule Update
>
> Wings Credit is available
>
> The exhibit area will feature vendor displays representing various types of recreational aircraft and accessories including fixed wing, trikes, sport plane, powered parachutes, rotorcraft, powered paragliders and ultralights. If you are interested in displaying equipment in this segment of aviation, please contact one of the following:
>
> Dale Rust, IDOT/Div of Aeronautics email: Dale.Rust@Illinois.gov
> Roy Beisswenger, IUAC email: roy@easyflight.com
> Jim Sweeney, IUAC email ragwing@att.net
>
> Additional information on the seminar is available at www.safety-seminar.com and the seminar will be posted on www.faasafety.gov for Wings registration.


#84368 From: "jim sweeney" <jimsweeney@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 11:04 pm
Subject: Illinois Ultralight & Light Plane Safety Seminar
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The 30th annual IUAC Ultralight /Sport Plane Safety Seminar hosted by the
Illinois Department of Transportation, Division of Aeronautics, the Illinois
Ultralight Advisor Council (IUAC), the FAA Springfield FSDO and the FAASTeam
will be held on Saturday February 27, 2010 at the Illinois State Fairgrounds,
Illinois Building Auditorium in Springfield, Illinois 62702.

This year's speakers include:
Earl Lawrence EAA
      Safety & Regulations
Phil Lockwood Lockwood Aviation
      Rotax 2 Stroke & 4 Stroke Engines
Doug Fetters Sport-Link Communications
      Making your Communication Equipment Work
Paul Hamilton Adventure Productions
      Sport Pilot Rule Update

Wings Credit is available

The exhibit area will feature vendor displays representing various types of
recreational aircraft and accessories including fixed wing, trikes, sport plane,
powered parachutes, rotorcraft, powered paragliders and ultralights. If you are
interested in displaying equipment in this segment of aviation, please contact
one of the following:

Dale Rust, IDOT/Div of Aeronautics email: Dale.Rust@...
Roy Beisswenger, IUAC email: roy@...
Jim Sweeney, IUAC email ragwing@...

Additional information on the seminar is available at www.safety-seminar.com and
the seminar will be posted on www.faasafety.gov for Wings registration.

#84367 From: "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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Fellows,

I use the garmin GPS III pilot.
there are lots of little and big airports around me,
This includes Portland international, seattle/tacoma international, Boeing
field, Olympia, etc.
There are also several TFRs in the area, like the one around Mt St Helens.
I really appreciate my GPS letting me know when I'm getting too close, before I
actually am too close to a b, c,or d airspace.
I also appreciate the ability to select a goto waypoint (usually an airport) and
being able to follow the arrow.  (though I can also plot a course, calculate
wind and magnetic corrections, fuel, etc, then use pilotage and deadreconning to
get there.  however, when I make an in-air change in destination; the plotting,
calculations, and handling of a sectional can be a real chore in the open
cockpit of my trike.)

R. Williams

---------- Original Message -----------
  From: Jerry Pridemore <jerrypridemore@...>
  To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:31:36 -0500
  Subject: Re: UL: GPS

>  
>
> I have been using a Garmin 12 since back in the 90s, I have flown many cross
countries, and never had a problem with a basic GPS.
>
> I now sometimes use a wrist mounted Garmin Forerunner gps. Yep it is a runners
GPS, and I have found it more than adequate, for me. even took a couple of 70
mile cross countries with it
>
> Both are bread-crum trails, and I never had a need for lots of airport
information in airports a 1000 miles away, I have a map for that.
>  I just liked knowing the ground speed, altitude, direction of travel, and how
far it is to where I am going, and if I need to know what is below me, I will
look down, and see.
> One of the things that attracted me to, and keeps me involve with UL flying is
not flying around staring at the panel.
> When flying, I am a tourist enjoying the view. 
>
> I suppose people need to figure how much gadgetry they need! . I just want
something that says 10 miles that way.
>
> Best flights I ever had where without the GPS.
>
>
>
> Jerry Pridemore 
> Unleashed Paw-Tential Dog Training
> WWW.UnleashedPawtential.com
>
<snip>

#84366 From: "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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Mark,

The easiest way to determine if a road/street GPS can be flashed with a aviation database is to go to the manufactures web site and see if any additional databases are available, specifically, a aviation data base.

R. Williams



---------- Original Message -----------
From: Mark Zinkel <dovesmagic@...>
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:30:43 -0800
Subject: Re: UL: GPS

>  
>
> The GPS units that are used in cars do indeed work in the air. I've tested it and it works like a charm. The only thing is that you're looking at roads instead of airspace and airports.
>  
> I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could save us all a lot of money.
>  
>  
> Any ideas?
> Mark
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, billy <framed30@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

>  
>
>
i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

> From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: UL: GPS
>
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM
>
>
Depends on what you want in a GPS. 
>
> I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.
>
> At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
> It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.
>
> Arty
> Maxair Drifter
> Sandy, OR
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

> From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com>
> Subject: UL: GPS
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM
>
>  
>
> Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?
>
> Thanks
>
>

>
>

>
>

>
>
------- End of Original Message -------

#84365 From: "Richard Williams" <rkwill@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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billy,

naturally, the car gps units will work in the air.
However, they have a street data base and typically do not display altitude.
Most also do not have an aviation data base available nor aviation related software available.

so selecting a destination will give guidance for following every turn in the roads, where an aviation data base will display the map, include all the aviation details (like airports, etc) and allow direct routing between waypoints.


R. Williams


---------- Original Message -----------
From: billy <framed30@...>
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:20:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: UL: GPS

>  
>
>
i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

> From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: UL: GPS
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM
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Depends on what you want in a GPS. 
>
> I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.
>
> At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
> It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.
>
> Arty
> Maxair Drifter
> Sandy, OR
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
> --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com>
> Subject: UL: GPS
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM
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>  
>
> Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?
>
> Thanks
>
>

>
>



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#84363 From: Jerry Pridemore <jerrypridemore@...>
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I have been using a Garmin 12 since back in the 90s, I have flown many cross countries, and never had a problem with a basic GPS.

I now sometimes use a wrist mounted Garmin Forerunner gps. Yep it is a runners GPS, and I have found it more than adequate, for me. even took a couple of 70 mile cross countries with it

Both are bread-crum trails, and I never had a need for lots of airport information in airports a 1000 miles away, I have a map for that.
 I just liked knowing the ground speed, altitude, direction of travel, and how far it is to where I am going, and if I need to know what is below me, I will look down, and see.
One of the things that attracted me to, and keeps me involve with UL flying is not flying around staring at the panel.
When flying, I am a tourist enjoying the view. 

I suppose people need to figure how much gadgetry they need. I just want something that says 10 miles that way.

Best flights I ever had where without the GPS.


Jerry Pridemore 
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On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Mark Zinkel wrote:



The GPS units that are used in cars do indeed work in the air. I've tested it and it works like a charm. The only thing is that you're looking at roads instead of airspace and airports.
 
I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could save us all a lot of money.
 
 
Any ideas?
Mark

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, billy <framed30@...> wrote:
 

i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...> wrote:

From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
Subject: Re: UL: GPSDate: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM




Depends on what you want in a GPS. 

I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.

At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.

Arty
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, OR



www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm

"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller

"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...> wrote:

From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
Subject: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM

 
Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks









#84362 From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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At 08:29 AM 2/3/2010, Phantom 1 wrote:
 
Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

I've been using a Garmin 60CSx (a hiking handheld) to which I've added airspace and airport database.

At 12:30 PM 2/3/2010, Mark Zinkel wrote:
  
I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could save us all a lot of money.

You can put in a database of airports, and a graphic display of airspace as I've done on mine, but it won't be a "true" aviation unit with terrain avoidance, "nearest airport", etc.  I looked into that when comparing the Garmin 76 (a ground unit) and the otherwise identical Garmin 96 (their base level aviation unit).  I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like a single trace on a circuit board or jumper that allows the 96 to accept the aviation firmware, but I don't know how you'd find out... certainly Garmin wouldn't be interested in telling you.

-Dana

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#84361 From: ROGER MILLS <irsmiley@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: UL: GPS
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There is an aviation app for an Ipod or newer Blackberry type GPS.  Haven't tried it but am told they are fairly complete.
 

To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
From: dovesmagic@...
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:30:43 -0800
Subject: Re: UL: GPS

 
The GPS units that are used in cars do indeed work in the air. I've tested it and it works like a charm. The only thing is that you're looking at roads instead of airspace and airports.
 
I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could save us all a lot of money.
 
 
Any ideas?
Mark

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, billy <framed30@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: UL: GPS Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM




Depends on what you want in a GPS. 

I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.

At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.

Arty
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, OR



www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm

"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller

"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@yahoo.com>
Subject: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM

 
Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks








#84360 From: Mark Zinkel <dovesmagic@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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The GPS units that are used in cars do indeed work in the air. I've tested it and it works like a charm. The only thing is that you're looking at roads instead of airspace and airports.
 
I've heard that some of the road GPS units are EXACTLY the same as the aviation units except for the extreme drop in price and the lack of airports and airspace. Does anyone know if it's possible to take one of these road based units and flash the firmware to accept aviation software? This could save us all a lot of money.
 
 
Any ideas?
Mark

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:20 AM, billy <framed30@...> wrote:
 

i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...> wrote:

From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
Subject: Re: UL: GPS Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM




Depends on what you want in a GPS. 

I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.

At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.

Arty
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, OR



www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm

"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller

"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...> wrote:

From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
Subject: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM

 
Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks






#84359 From: "tdrtw" <damber306@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:26 pm
Subject: Trike Video - The Red Devil
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Crank up the volume, this song is perfect for Frank's Red Devil (Apollo Delta Jet 912S):

http://www.emuvideo.com/videos.php?page=reddevil

Enjoy,

Damien


#84358 From: billy <framed30@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:20 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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i was wondering about all these gps units you see in cars, would they work in the air?

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From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 12:17 PM



Depends on what you want in a GPS. 

I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.

At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.

Arty
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, OR



www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm

"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller

"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...> wrote:

From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
Subject: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM

 
Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks





#84357 From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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Depends on what you want in a GPS. 

I flew for years with a hikers Garmin 12. It cost me $100 at Walmart and sucked up battery life like no one's business, but I've used it for over 1000 hours in the air and it's still going strong. No data base - you put in all your own coordinates. The screen shows a highway (or an arrow, depending on what view you choose) pointing in the direction of your destination. It also has ground speed, time to destination, time and altitude. I used it to fly from my home airport in Sandy Oregon to Sun n Fun last year. It's about as minimalist - and inexpensive - as you can get.

At Sun n Fun I was given an Anywhere Map GPS - www.anywheremap.com
It's an absolutely fabulous GPS, has the most extensive airport database I've seen, and shows everything a pilot could want. It also has a complete road GPS, with all kinds of info. Too much to write about. You can look it up on line. It's the least expensive pilot GPS I've seen - even though Garmin has just come out with a copycat version, Garmin's is more expensive. Mine was about $500 - you can get them for less at the big airshows.

Arty
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, OR



www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm

"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller

"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...> wrote:

From: Phantom 1 <walkman88us@...>
Subject: UL: GPS
To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 5:29 AM

 

Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks


#84356 From: Jay D <rdd3959@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: UL: GPS
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Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 7:29:48 AM
Subject: UL: GPS

 

Been through three Magellan 315/320 and find them to really be all I need but for some reason they don't seem to last. What inexpensive gps do you guys suggest?

Thanks



#84355 From: ROGER MILLS <irsmiley@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 2:32 pm
Subject: RE: UL: Photos - Salton Sea 2010 Adventure
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Damien, et al
Great photo's looks like you had fun.
 
I used to live in El Centro and work on Black mountain. Had to go to across Glamis all the time.  FYI it is where the sand scenes of Tatooine (sp) were done for Star Wars, and is considered the best "Dunes" anywhere.  There are places where you can stand and see 1000's of RV's parked on some weekends.  If you go there with a buggy or quad etc. DO NOT park or stop in the valleys, park on top of a dune.  I saw a buggy land on four quads, all died, actually happens alot.
 

To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
From: damber306@...
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 03:44:09 +0000
Subject: UL: Photos - Salton Sea 2010 Adventure

 

Here are some photos of Eric Savenger and I's trip out to the Salton Sea flyin event. We had perfect weather conditions for all day flying pretty much the whole time we were gone. We would take off at sunrise, head out for the day landing in all sorts of places, meeting all sorts of people and come back by sunset - filming the whole trip. Eric works in the photography field travelling around to hospitals setting up equipment, and thus takes wonderful photos. The highlight for both of us was playing around in the Glamis Sand Dunes.
http://www.emuvideo.com/images/trike/salton2010/
I have lots of video to start working on now!
Cheers,
Damien


#84354 From: "tdrtw" <damber306@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: UL: Photos - Salton Sea 2010 Adventure
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Thanks!

we towed our machines out there and setup on the salton beach. Good weather
allowed us lots of flying which we maximed on.

Right now my trike is at home in Abq, NM for a good cleaning (got a lot of mud
on it) and an annual inspection before the next adventure.

Cheers,

Damien

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> Damien -These are stunning. My favorites are Damien dunes 03 and Damien over
Salton. But they're all gorgeous.
> Tell us a little about the flight. Where is your home field that you flew
from? How long was the flight from your home field to Salton Sea? How long was
the entire trip? 
> ArtySandy, Oregon
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> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
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> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, tdrtw <damber306@...> wrote:
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> From: tdrtw <damber306@...>
> Subject: UL: Photos - Salton Sea 2010 Adventure
> To: FLY-UL@yahoogroups.com
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>       Here are some photos of Eric Savenger and I's trip out to the Salton
> Sea flyin event. We had perfect weather conditions for all day flying
> pretty much the whole time we were gone. We would take off at sunrise,
> head out for the day landing in all sorts of places, meeting all sorts
> of people and come back by sunset - filming the whole trip. Eric works
> in the photography field travelling around to hospitals setting up
> equipment, and thus takes wonderful photos. The highlight for both of
> us was playing around in the Glamis Sand Dunes.
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> http://www.emuvideo .com/images/ trike/salton2010 /
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> I have lots of video to start working on now!
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> Cheers,
>
> Damien
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