Do you smell what the TRAD is cookin? I do, it
stinks in here and it stinks bad. You guys are gangin up
on me. B.S. The damn word isn't in my Webster's,
dollar general store special for two dollars,
dictionary. I will find out, oh yes, I will.

Hey, should we tell Harley what "Trad" means or
keep 'im in the dark for a while? :-) <br><br>He said
he was going to look it up in websters, maybe he
should go to rec.climbing and ask them what trad means
LMAO!<br><br>Trad

Hi Trad, I stopped by to check out the place and
I'm impressed. Where was the snow cave on Long's? I
also remember standing on top of Clingman's watching
the mountain squeeze the water from the air as it
rose up one side, rained out the moisture, and then
let the dry air slide down the other side, like some
huge extraction machine. Looking forward to seeing the
rest of the pix.<br><br>Hey, should we tell Harley
what "Trad" means or keep 'im in the dark for a while?
:-)

Yeh, get off your ass!!!  Let's see some pics.  What was the last page?  I'll be
in the chat at 9:00pm tonight.  See you there?

GET OFF YOUR ASS AND POST THE REST OF THE PIX WILL YA? SERIOUSLY... A FINE JOB
ON THE PAGE MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE (SP?) THAN THE LAST PAGE.

I'm going to try to start dumping all the pix in this weekend, I have tons more
for all the albums already started.

It's in Evansville, I still haven't desided if
I'm going to enter it or not. I'm not that good, my
balance is off, my grip isn't strong enough, I don't know
yet. Yeh, come on down sometime, well drink and hike
and climb. Oh yeh, I am going up to indy some time in
Feb. I think the 3rd weekend for a boat sport and
travel show. I'm not sure where it's at in Indy but it's
big you should check it out. My dad and I will be
there selling, knives, swords, blowguns, & someother
interesting stuff.

I might, is that in Eville or Jeffersonville? It
takes me about 3 1/2 hours to get to Eville, 1 more
hour and I could be in Jackson Falls (or the Red River
Gorge). I guess I would be buying wouldn't I?

You know, I should have thought about that. Went
to an indoor gym today. I read something about a
tounament FEB 3, are you coming down here for that? Beers
on me. Well, I'll give you the money, you buy. LOL

Would it be better as harleydavidson_sim?

I changed my name so I could be cool.  It's still me.<br><br>Andy

great picks!  Hopefully I will have some to match you some day.<br><br>Andy

I cursed myself for missing the move, then I
hopped right back up there, stuck the hold like it was
made just for me and topped out! I got the top rope
set up and everybody was slithering up the slab. And
then.......CRASH!.........what was that?.....BAMMM.....Did you hear that?<br>It
was warm enough that the ice was separating from the
top of the cliffline and crashing down to us in the
canyon below. Who needs Everest, I've got it all right
here, glacier travel, ice falls, you name it.<br>After
we were done scurrying around the rocks,we decide to
go out the 'dog walk' instead of up the rope by the
falls. On our way, we were reminded of the other
waterfalls near by, which were also frozen. Beautiful
sculptures, that were only going to last another day. Who
knew my partners and I would be the only ones to see
them? All in all I think we spent more time gawking at
the frozen falls then we did climbing!<br>It was icy
3rd class maneuvers that got us out the dog walk as
we watched more ice tumble in the canyon, it was
definitely getting warmer, maybe even 45 degrees?!<br>That
night at camp, JD fixed an awesome meal of pork loin
roast with potatoes, carrots, onions, the whole works.
Cooked on the fire, season to taste, mmm mmmm good!
<br>That night as it got warmer, the snow in camp was
turning to, yes you guessed it, MUD! But, as I look up, I
see stars in the sky, could it be? A sunny day
tomorrow?<br>After continued drinking and eating, I look once to the
sky a few hours later. Denied, no stars. And with the
cloud cover brings the wind, smelling of rain headed
our way. We get everything as waterproof as possible.
But as I slink into my bag it starts, drip, drip,
splat, pow(big drop). So drip, drip, splat was the tune
for the night, but once we were up Sunday, the rain
had gone, but the mud had not.<br>We slurped up 2
pots of coffee and went back to the falls. Much more
water was running now, the temp had gone up and the
look of the ice sculpture had changed completely. The
frozen pool below was now flooded with water. We could
actually sit at the base of the falls and watch the flow
rate become greater and greater with time. I still
can't believe no one else was out there to see it with
us. But I suppose, it was the first trip of the year
in the snow, and the rain, and the mud. I did my
first lead for the year. I and have pictures of flowing
ice that mother nature created, knowing it will never
looking the same next time.<br>So I would say, YES, I had
a great time, no matter what the weather.

Jackson Falls - January 12-14,
2001<br><br>DISCLAIMER: Any actions of the participants of this trip do
not reflect opinions of the management. Most of their
actions are inherently dangerous and should not be
attempted.<br><br><br>We rolled out of Indy about 6:45 PM, jetted through
the flatland and made it down to camp at about 11:00
PM. We ended up being the only ones there, do you
think it had anything to do with the weather? (chuckle)
Although the weather reports said warmer than usual, I'm
hear to tell you different! The powdery snow has
soaked up some rain the day before to make ice and made
everything as difficult as glacier travel.<br>After setting
up camp and getting the fire going, we commenced to
drinking, knowing of the full day ahead tomorrow. Jose
Cuervo did make an appearance!<br>That night it was
about 35 degrees, and I was all wrapped up in my mummy
bag, just as warm as I would be under the blanket on
the couch at home.<br>Morning comes with gray skies.
We drank our coffee and ate our breakfast and headed
out down the forest road (glacier) to make the best
of this dreary day.<br>Once we reach the falls where
we'll rap in, we notice the waterfall has frozen into a
beautiful sculpture that rises 90 feet up from the frozen
pool to the edge where the water spills over the edge.
All along the rock walls, run off water has collected
forming large caps of ice hanging off the edges,
stalactites, bulges, all kinds of interesting formations. So
interesting, infact, we set up a rappel next to the water fall
to take some 'poser' shots before starting the climb
for the day.<br>At one point during our photo shoot,
we traded in out bravery for stupidity, snugged up
our water proof shells and went onto the ice and
actually climbed up the spraying waterfall to peer down
into abyss that the flowing water has created. No
matter what National Geographic does, it can’t top
looking straight down into a flowing waterfall tube! No
fatalities. However, I did have a foothold blow out on me as
I came down (hang tight). No worse for the wear, my
partners rap down next to the falls, but I have to be a
little different. I slap the ascenders on the rope, and
jumar my way to the top of the falls. Now that's
exhilarating!<br>Once all is said and done, we move on looking for a
dry climb, the one's Capt. Carl picked out were all
wet covered in ice and snow. So we move on.......to
Yosemite Slab.<br>This large block, as big a 2 story house
sitting on it’s corner, is completely devoid of snow and
looks like a great place to start.<br>The are only
anchor bolts on this climb, so in order to put the rope
up, you must come up another rock, jump the hallway
and scramble to the top to set up the anchors.
Unfortunately, this was all covered in ice.<br>Deciding the best
way up was straight up the boulder, I clear away the
snow at the base and slap on my shoes. I tie in to the
rope and notice it is starting to get a little warmer.
I get a starting foothold in a shallow pocket on
this big friction slab and start to work my magic, up,
up I go. Two moves from the top and I go for the
chip for my left foot........"I got it, I got
it......I AIN'T GOT IT! <br>If you have ever had a slab
spit you off, the you are well aware of the cheese
grater effect to your arms and legs on the way
down.<br>So there I was, I missed the move and scraped down
the rock at unbelievable speed, heading for the
offset block that were about to hobble my ankles. Lucky
for me, one of my partners is 6'2" at 220lbs. And he
brought me to a nice, safe, controlled halt after 15 feet
of falling. (with his bare hands) DRINKS FOR MY
BUDDY JD! {End of part 1}

In your cave with a micro wave, fridge, hairdryer, etc?<br>LOL

It is?  Already?  Time to come out of hibernation.

Finally, it's time to shed the cabin fever and hit the crag in January!

I heard some newsguy say down to -40 to -50 degrees tonight.  THEY HAVE GOT TO
BE KIDDING!

yep lots colder.  expecting two more inches tonight.

Could it get any colder?

Hey, I like snow, so I'm happy you got 2 foot
snow drifts. Your lucky. We only got 4inches. It was
still cool, first big snow since 98. Hoping to get
outside this coming weekend, right before christmas.

Yeah, out where I live there were about 2 foot drifts across the road. AND IT
WAS COLD THEN SH*T!<br>Bummer about your finals.  We will be able to get outside
as soon as the new year starts.

Heard you got some snow.  ha ha ha  I only got 5 inches, was hoping for more.

Traddady, going to Mammoth Cave this weekend.  Are you coming?  Let me know.

All my tents leak!

Hey man, I have duct taped boots and a leaky
tent. So what, now I'm homeless. They have been
replaced recently but they still work. I think people
shouldn't replace their old equipment until it wears out
like mine did. Most people I know go out and buy a new
$300 tent just because it's a cool red color.
bullshit. Save your money for a house that doesn't leak and
use the tent until it wears out. <br><br>So rite on
homeless campers, hikers, & canoers. Get your holes from
use not mice in your garage.

Pix from Stone Door and Big South Fork coming soon!

how much activity gets goin' here.  Gotta go... check in later

HELLO FOLKS AND FELLOW CLIMBERS.. EVERYONE GIVE
TRADDADDY A BIG THANK YOU FOR CREATING THIS WONDERFUL PAGE
AND ALSO THE ORIGINAL,WHICH CAN BE FOUND AT
TRAX.TO/GORGEMONKEY.<br><br>MORE TO COME IN THE FUTURE.LOOK FOR ALL NEW AND
ORIGINAL INFO. IN MARCH AFTER THE ANNUAL FEBRUARY TRIP.
<br><br>CAPTAIN CARL

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