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I seem to recall reading somewhere that there was a psychiatric hospital in her
home town, and that O.T. might have stood for "Occupational Therapy", and E.T.
for something similar...

To: flanneryoconnorfanpage@...: freehome1@...: Wed, 7
Jan 2009 06:51:27 -0800Subject: Re: [Flannery O'Connor Fan Page] Q: O.T. and
E.T. in "Greenleaf"



My best guess is that they were given initials instead of real names to
underscore their simplicity; this of course juxtaposed by the existence of their
fancy french wives.  I think a lot of her stories came from real life events and
their may have been a neighbor with initials from whom she drew inspiration. 
Initials were an may still be a very popular naming custom in the South, for
example: E.W., S.T., O.W., E.J., J.R. to name a few I know personally.  Hope
this helps.  I can't really come up with any real significance for these
particular initials.  Does she disclose the full names in the story?  I can't
remember.  I think Parker in "Parker's Back" is ashamed of his real name, but I
can't remember what it is either.  Good luck.--- On Tue, 1/6/09,
darienslibrarian <darienslibrarian@...> wrote:From: darienslibrarian
<darienslibrarian@...>Subject: [Flannery O'Connor Fan Page] Q: O.T. and
E.T. in "Greenleaf"To: flanneryoconnorfanpage@...: Tuesday,
January 6, 2009, 11:37 PMHelp a gal out... what is the significance of "O.T."
and "E.T." in"Greenleaf"? I know those initials are in there for a reason,
butdarned if I know what it is. Are there some branches of
Protestantdenominations with names that have those initials? ("O.T." was how
Iused to abbreviate "Old Testament" in religion class notes, butsomehow, I don't
think this is quite right.)Thanks, in advance!Laura[Non-text portions of this
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My best guess is that they were given initials instead of real names to
underscore their simplicity; this of course juxtaposed by the existence of their
fancy french wives.  I think a lot of her stories came from real life events and
their may have been a neighbor with initials from whom she drew inspiration. 
Initials were an may still be a very popular naming custom in the South, for
example: E.W., S.T., O.W., E.J., J.R. to name a few I know personally.  Hope
this helps.  I can't really come up with any real significance for these
particular initials.  Does she disclose the full names in the story?  I can't
remember.  I think Parker in "Parker's Back" is ashamed of his real name, but I
can't remember what it is either.  Good luck.

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, darienslibrarian <darienslibrarian@...> wrote:

From: darienslibrarian <darienslibrarian@...>
Subject: [Flannery O'Connor Fan Page] Q: O.T. and E.T. in "Greenleaf"
To: flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:37 PM






Help a gal out... what is the significance of "O.T." and "E.T." in
"Greenleaf"? I know those initials are in there for a reason, but
darned if I know what it is. Are there some branches of Protestant
denominations with names that have those initials? ("O.T." was how I
used to abbreviate "Old Testament" in religion class notes, but
somehow, I don't think this is quite right.)

Thanks, in advance!

Laura


















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Help a gal out... what is the significance of "O.T." and "E.T." in
"Greenleaf"?  I know those initials are in there for a reason, but
darned if I know what it is.  Are there some branches of Protestant
denominations with names that have those initials? ("O.T." was how I
used to abbreviate "Old Testament" in religion class notes, but
somehow, I don't think this is quite right.)

Thanks, in advance!

Laura

Thanks.  It's not really that important.  I might even be wrong.  Flannery might
never have said that.
 
Cheers,
Roxy

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--- On Sun, 11/23/08, mermaid_scar <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: mermaid_scar <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Flannery O'Connor Fan Page] Re: Hi! I have a Flannery question
To: flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:16 PM






Roxy,

(ages later)

I'm not able to find this in various interweb searches, or in the body
of her works that I have handy. I'm re-reading "The Habit of Being" so
if it turns up I'll letcher know...

--- In flanneryoconnorfanp age@yahoogroups. com, "roxykattx"
<roxykattx@. ..> wrote:
>
> Did Flannery O'connor, somewhere in her letters perhaps, or essays,
> say something like this: "of human beings, nothing is to be expected."
>
> I have it in my mind she said this, but I could be wrong. Does anyone
> know where this might be?
>
> Cheers,
> Roxy Katt
>
















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Roxy,

(ages later)

I'm not able to find this in various interweb searches, or in the body
of her works that I have handy. I'm re-reading "The Habit of Being" so
if it turns up I'll letcher know...

--- In flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com, "roxykattx"
<roxykattx@...> wrote:
>
> Did Flannery O'connor, somewhere in her letters perhaps, or essays,
> say something like this: "of human beings, nothing is to be expected."
>
> I have it in my mind she said this, but I could be wrong.  Does anyone
> know where this might be?
>
> Cheers,
> Roxy Katt
>

hello my fellow Flannery O'Connor fans!

I wanted to share with you a student short film that I made this year
that is adapted from "The Lame Shall Enter First", which happens to be
my favorite O'Connor short story. It's 35 minutes long, and divided up
into four parts. Below are the links. Please let me know what you think!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nFXjbbP97k (part I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8_xUKzKXoI (part II)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6EivGOU7J8 (part III)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7X3bhZiUBk (part IV)

Best,

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Philagape Productions
http://www.youtube.com/ebchrispy

Did Flannery O'connor, somewhere in her letters perhaps, or essays,
say something like this: "of human beings, nothing is to be expected."

I have it in my mind she said this, but I could be wrong.  Does anyone
know where this might be?

Cheers,
Roxy Katt

Thanks a lot!

Bob

--- In flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com, "TJ"
<nycblkboy.porn@...> wrote:
>
> Its your luck day.  I did a search on the internet a few days ago
> looking for adudio versions or her books and talks.
> check here:
> http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/26531
>
> thurman
>
> --- In flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com, "gretschbigsby2003"
> <gretschbigsby2003@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings and Happy Easter.
> >
> > Does anyone know where you can find a recording of Flannery O'Connor?
> >  I seem to recall there is a recording of her reading A Good Man Is
> > Hard To Find.
> >
> > I'd love to locate that or, even better, one of her lectures.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Bob Cook, OFM Conv.
> > Milwaukee, WI
> >
>

No problem.  I;m good at finding thins, if they exist on the internet. :)
I'm actually going to be writing an essay about her soon so i'm getting as
much information as i can.  I just bought "The complete Stories" and am
reading as many of the stories as i can before i have to start writing.

thurman

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:34 PM, fr. damian j. ference <frference@...>
wrote:

>   These audio clips are terrific!!! Thanks for finding
> them and bringing them to the online community. You
> made my week. Cheers!
>
> fr. damian
>
> Fr. Damian J. Ference
> Capuchin College
> 4121 Harewood Road NE
> Washington, D.C. 20017
> 202.529.2188 ext.141
>
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These audio clips are terrific!!!  Thanks for finding
them and bringing them to the online community.  You
made my week.  Cheers!

fr. damian


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check here:
http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/26531

thurman

--- In flanneryoconnorfanpage@yahoogroups.com, "gretschbigsby2003"
<gretschbigsby2003@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings and Happy Easter.
>
> Does anyone know where you can find a recording of Flannery O'Connor?
>  I seem to recall there is a recording of her reading A Good Man Is
> Hard To Find.
>
> I'd love to locate that or, even better, one of her lectures.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Cook, OFM Conv.
> Milwaukee, WI
>

Does anyone know is O'Connors speech she gave at Hollins college in
1962 avalible anywhere?  I keep seeing references to it but i can't to
seem to find the actual speech.  It doesn't have to be online, (i do
understand copyright) I just wanted to read or hear the speech for
myself.

I will check my college library latter today but i just wanted to know
if you knew.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Thurman Jamison

Greetings and Happy Easter.

Does anyone know where you can find a recording of Flannery O'Connor?
  I seem to recall there is a recording of her reading A Good Man Is
Hard To Find.

I'd love to locate that or, even better, one of her lectures.

Thanks!

Bob Cook, OFM Conv.
Milwaukee, WI

Thanks!  They didn't like my ideas, but we came up
with something that I'm working on right now.

Laura

--- Neil Scott <neilscott52@...> wrote:

>
>
> Two articles that you may want to track down in your
> university library that may be of help:
>
> "The Moral Meaning of Flannery O'Connor," by Henry
> McDonald in MODERN AGE 24.3 (1980): 274-83; and,
>
> Nancy B. Sederberg's "Flannery O'Connor's Spiritual
> Landscape: A Dual Sense of Nothing," in the FLANNERY
> O'CONNOR BULLETIN 12 (1983): 17-34.
>
> Good Luck !
>
> --- "L. Mc Clain" <darienslibrarian@...>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm currently struggling with some of the
> > requirements
> > for the graduate program I'm in, and I wonder if
> > anyone can give me some feedback, please.
> >
> > I'm trying to identify (for my professors) my
> > desired
> > area of research in American Literature.  It has
> to
> > be
> > in the form of a question.  My current question is
> >
> > "What ethical conflicts arise in the intersections
> > of
> > Nature and Faith, Nature and Race, and Nature and
> > Gender?"
> >
> > and the main conflict (okay, only conflict) I have
> > identified is the individual's code of conduct vs.
> > society's code of conduct.
> >
> > Does it make sense to look at TVBIA in terms of
> > Nature
> > and Faith, as in the question above?  For example,
> > nature and faith do intersect, as in the
> > baptism/drowning, but is there really a self-vs.-
> > society conflict there?  Does Rayber count as
> > society?
> >
> >
> > Any help in getting this figured out would be
> > greatly
> > appreciated.  Because if this doesn't work, I have
> > to
> > re-write the question. Again.  And I need this
> soon
> > --
> > I'm meeting with my Exam Committee Friday at 1:30.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Laura
> >
> >
> >
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Two articles that you may want to track down in your
university library that may be of help:

"The Moral Meaning of Flannery O'Connor," by Henry
McDonald in MODERN AGE 24.3 (1980): 274-83; and,

Nancy B. Sederberg's "Flannery O'Connor's Spiritual
Landscape: A Dual Sense of Nothing," in the FLANNERY
O'CONNOR BULLETIN 12 (1983): 17-34.

Good Luck !

--- "L. Mc Clain" <darienslibrarian@...> wrote:

> I'm currently struggling with some of the
> requirements
> for the graduate program I'm in, and I wonder if
> anyone can give me some feedback, please.
>
> I'm trying to identify (for my professors) my
> desired
> area of research in American Literature.  It has to
> be
> in the form of a question.  My current question is
>
> "What ethical conflicts arise in the intersections
> of
> Nature and Faith, Nature and Race, and Nature and
> Gender?"
>
> and the main conflict (okay, only conflict) I have
> identified is the individual's code of conduct vs.
> society's code of conduct.
>
> Does it make sense to look at TVBIA in terms of
> Nature
> and Faith, as in the question above?  For example,
> nature and faith do intersect, as in the
> baptism/drowning, but is there really a self-vs.-
> society conflict there?  Does Rayber count as
> society?
>
>
> Any help in getting this figured out would be
> greatly
> appreciated.  Because if this doesn't work, I have
> to
> re-write the question. Again.  And I need this soon
> --
> I'm meeting with my Exam Committee Friday at 1:30.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Laura
>
>
>
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I'm currently struggling with some of the requirements
for the graduate program I'm in, and I wonder if
anyone can give me some feedback, please.

I'm trying to identify (for my professors) my desired
area of research in American Literature.  It has to be
in the form of a question.  My current question is

"What ethical conflicts arise in the intersections of
Nature and Faith, Nature and Race, and Nature and
Gender?"

and the main conflict (okay, only conflict) I have
identified is the individual's code of conduct vs.
society's code of conduct.

Does it make sense to look at TVBIA in terms of Nature
and Faith, as in the question above?  For example,
nature and faith do intersect, as in the
baptism/drowning, but is there really a self-vs.-
society conflict there?  Does Rayber count as society?


Any help in getting this figured out would be greatly
appreciated.  Because if this doesn't work, I have to
re-write the question. Again.  And I need this soon --
I'm meeting with my Exam Committee Friday at 1:30.

Thanks,

Laura



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Thanks, and I'm sorry it took so long to get back to
this.  What you said makes sense.

Laura

--- "fr. damian j. ference" <frference@...>
wrote:

> I guess it would depend upon what message it is that
> you think Flannery O'Connor was trying to get
> across.  If you're thinking about racism in the
> south, su

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