I agree. It's possible to love someone without fully understanding him. In fact, it's one of the pleasures of love to gaze on the loved one, to delight in...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
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Jul 12, 2001 4:09 am
Rachel wrote: "Rather, I am trying to mesh the two concepts between those of you who are looking at ministry in the postmodern context, and those like Holding...
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Stephen Shields
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Jul 12, 2001 10:43 am
Rachel wrote: "Yes, I read that article from your website that was in Christianity Today. I thought it had some good insight, but was inaccurate on a couple of...
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Rick Stilwell
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Jul 12, 2001 11:14 am
Can I jump in here, too? Ken wrote: I sorry if I've given away my distaste for that term, ministry, but I see it used all over the place to justify a whole...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
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Jul 12, 2001 3:35 pm
Stephen, Here you are on vacation, and the board starts hoppin'! Please feel free to delay your response. Hey Rachel! That's some good analysis and very...
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Carl Bergstrom
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Jul 12, 2001 9:56 pm
I've just stumbled onto this discussion group in the past few days; and I'm reading with fascination, confusion, questions and a bit of horror. So this is how...
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Chris G Criminger
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Jul 12, 2001 10:48 pm
Wow Carl, I find your post to be a very postmodern one as you unpack your ideas about the Bible and corporal discipline. As the resident schizophrenic one, my...
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briancrcc@...
Jul 13, 2001 12:08 am
In a message dated 7/11/01 12:28:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ... Great postings, everyone! I'm in an airport, coming home from CBA (where there was quite a...
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Caroline Wong
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Jul 13, 2001 2:48 am
... That's quite a dilemna. If we assume the writer of Joshua is wrong about what God really wanted (No, you idiots! I said make peace, not war!) then what...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
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Jul 13, 2001 4:19 am
Carl, Thanks for your comments. So this is ... Um, I don't see myself as enlightened. I see myself as struggling forward and occasionally getting rays of...
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Stephen Shields
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Jul 13, 2001 10:36 am
Hi Carl, You wrote: "And I cannot even figure out exactly whose comments are whose." I can empathize! I'm on a number of yahoogroups and I subscribe to them...
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Stephen Shields
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Jul 13, 2001 10:47 am
addition in ** **'s For The only comfort I do get from such questions is that I would expect that if God really does know everything and have all wisdom, it...
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Barry Abbott
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Jul 13, 2001 4:22 pm
You know, I was very interested in this discussion group. I enjoyed Finding Faith. It was instrumental in helping me ask the hard questions. I have passed...
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Chris G Criminger
cccriminger@...
Jul 13, 2001 4:56 pm
Hi Everyone, Barry brings up a good point abut why all the labels and categories. Actually, if there is one group of people who do not like labels its our ...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 13, 2001 5:07 pm
Hi Barry, Well, I posted that question but I'll pass the buck and explain that someone asked that of me, so I thought this was a good place to find out about...
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Ian Graham
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Jul 13, 2001 5:56 pm
Another exhilarating take on the birth of a synthesis of worldview and science and spirituality the 'Universe as Hologram' where all parts contain all of the...
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carlpb92111@...
Jul 13, 2001 9:56 pm
Hi Stephen--- I appreciate your kindness and gentleness in your remarks. If I remember my scripture correctly, when Jesus was asked what were the two greatest...
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Stephen Shields
sshields@...
Jul 14, 2001 1:41 am
Thanks Carl. Here's to your search for new CDs and to mine. Stephen Shields sshields@... http://www.faithmaps.org ... From: ...
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Stephen Shields
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Jul 14, 2001 1:41 am
Barry wrote: "What are we? Types and categories? I love the discussions here, but why the labels. Can someone explain to me why we must categorize...
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Barry Abbott
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Jul 14, 2001 4:01 am
Rachel, Perhaps I came on a little too strong. I realize that catagories and labels are a part of our expression process. Naturally, the example of gender...
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Ken Pratt
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Jul 14, 2001 4:00 pm
I also find myself a little frustrated with the labeling issue. I have a friend whose tendency is to label things quite quickly. Why it disturbs me is that...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 14, 2001 4:17 pm
Perhaps the issue with labeling is that it is always in talking about someone else or a group of someone elses. I've appreciated the personal stories and self...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 14, 2001 4:35 pm
Rachel, Thanks for the question. There is nothing you said that is offensive in itself. I'm just currently in a place of frustration with christianity and much...
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Ian Graham
iagraham@...
Jul 14, 2001 6:01 pm
I would try getting a dialogue going with the Gospel of Thomas, for instance via Ross' book Jesus Untouched by the Church. It's a bridge if I ever saw one. ...
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Caroline Wong
caroline@...
Jul 14, 2001 8:44 pm
The trick is to never let the other person know you've labelled them <grin> The human mind has a natural knack for finding patterns and groupings. It is a...
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Stephen Shields
sshields@...
Jul 14, 2001 9:59 pm
I've seen a couple of requests for unsubscription. To do this, just send a blank email to findingfaith-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com and you will be...
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taxbill@...
Jul 15, 2001 4:55 am
I finished reading the book about a week ago and enjoyed it very much. I have also read Finding Faith and got alot out of it too. I actually made quite a few...
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Caroline Wong
caroline@...
Jul 15, 2001 5:06 am
Dear Connie; That's so true that the gospel is meant for everybody. And I love the fact that it is both simple and complex. In fact, I love the fact that ...
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Chris G Criminger
cccriminger@...
Jul 15, 2001 4:39 pm
Good post Connie :-) I would like to ask your friend, read the very technical and long Chicago declaration article on Innerancy and then tell me where does...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 15, 2001 7:43 pm
Barry, Thanks for sharing. I think we are both simply speaking from our own experiences here and may be at different places. Categories have actually helped...
