I typed in "Liberal Fundamentalist" in Google.com and I got a reference to "A New Kind of Christian" which I ordered and read. I was raised a fundamentalist...
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Rick Stilwell
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Jul 9, 2001 12:42 pm
Hi, Carl - I'm in South Carolina, not Southern California, but understand looking for someone to talk face-to-face with about some of the changes and ...
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briancrcc@...
Jul 9, 2001 3:22 pm
Hi, Carl -- I wish I had a good referral for you in San Diego ... maybe someone else in this group does. You (and others) might be interested in another...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 9, 2001 4:58 pm
Hi Carl, There are also a number of groups who discuss in the pomo/Christian thoughtspace listed @ ...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 10, 2001 7:31 pm
I've just stumbled upon this group and though not sure, think I may have found some similarities with where I am in my faith. I haven't read Brian's book(s)...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 10, 2001 7:33 pm
Welcome Ken! We look forward to hearing more! Finding Faith would be an excellent place to start! Stephen Shields sshields@... ...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 11, 2001 3:30 am
Brian and Stephen, I'm in about chapter 4 of A New Kind of Christian. I'm so glad Neo er, Brian, is drawing so much from C. S. Lewis. He has been my "mentor"...
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Carl Bergstrom
carlpb92111@...
Jul 11, 2001 5:13 am
OK…This was triggered by Ken Pratt’s message, and I want to talk about my spiritual journey. I was born into a fundamentalist Christian home and was...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 11, 2001 11:58 am
Carl, Thanks for speaking up. Your story is very much like my family's, AA and all. I look forward to dialog as well. I was hoping to tell more of my story and...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 11, 2001 2:02 pm
Hi Rachel, I took a look at the Rogue's Gallary on Tektonics and I hadn't read it before. Perhaps others on here have read it and can respond. However, some ...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 11, 2001 2:32 pm
Carl, Thank you for sharing some of your story with us. I have stumbled upon the fact that one of the most valuable things that you can do with another human ...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:00 pm
Stephen, ... Thanks. I wasn't thinking of a specific question at this time (although I could pose some to see what you think). Rather, I am trying to mesh the...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:06 pm
I also have a question about when you see the postmodern era beginning. Brian indicates that C.S. Lewis saw it in the '50s and that the '60s was sort of a...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:18 pm
Stephen, I think you've exactly defined the middle ground where I am (and consequently where I am uncomfortable). The two places you seemed to define include: ...
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Chris G Criminger
cccriminger@...
Jul 11, 2001 4:39 pm
Hi Rachel, I am going to jump in the conversation and hopefully add only one possible insight. Maybe the problem is not as much of being caught in the thralls...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 11, 2001 7:52 pm
Chris, Thanks for your comments. I think what you said is very true. I know of two people who have rejected Christianity because of being caught in this ...
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Chris G Criminger
cccriminger@...
Jul 11, 2001 10:01 pm
Rachel said, ... Hi Rachel, Maybe you could minister to me since I am one such person? :-) All I can say is I understand where people are coming from who are...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 11, 2001 10:47 pm
Aw, Chris, that was such a postmodern type of response, and I asked a modern type question. (I think) Ha, ha, ha! Rachel ... From: Chris G Criminger...
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Ken Pratt
prattclan@...
Jul 12, 2001 1:30 am
Rachel, I mean no disrespect by this question, but what do you mean by minister? I don't know enough of the definitions by which you speak, but the question...
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Caroline Wong
caroline@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:09 am
Dear Ken I guess Rachel is saying she doesn't know how to hug them when sometimes they're porcupine shaped and sometimes they're eel shaped. Oooops. I just...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:22 am
Rachel wrote: "Rather, I am trying to mesh the two concepts between those of you who are looking at ministry in the postmodern context, and those like Holding...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:29 am
Rachel, I mean no disrespect by this question, but what do you mean by minister? I don't know enough of the definitions by which you speak, but the question...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:39 am
Rachel wrote: " I also have a question about when you see the postmodern era beginning. Brian indicates that C.S. Lewis saw it in the '50s and that the '60s...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:45 am
Ken wrote: "I think you've exactly defined the middle ground where I am (and consequently where I am uncomfortable). The two places you seemed to define ...
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Caroline Wong
caroline@...
Jul 12, 2001 4:01 am
I agree. It's possible to love someone without fully understanding him. In fact, it's one of the pleasures of love to gaze on the loved one, to delight in...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 12, 2001 4:09 am
Rachel wrote: "Rather, I am trying to mesh the two concepts between those of you who are looking at ministry in the postmodern context, and those like Holding...
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Stephen Shields
stephen@...
Jul 12, 2001 10:43 am
Rachel wrote: "Yes, I read that article from your website that was in Christianity Today. I thought it had some good insight, but was inaccurate on a couple of...
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Rick Stilwell
rickwell@...
Jul 12, 2001 11:14 am
Can I jump in here, too? Ken wrote: I sorry if I've given away my distaste for that term, ministry, but I see it used all over the place to justify a whole...
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Curtis and Rachel Ramer
crramer@...
Jul 12, 2001 3:35 pm
Stephen, Here you are on vacation, and the board starts hoppin'! Please feel free to delay your response. Hey Rachel! That's some good analysis and very...
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Carl Bergstrom
carlpb92111@...
Jul 12, 2001 9:56 pm
I've just stumbled onto this discussion group in the past few days; and I'm reading with fascination, confusion, questions and a bit of horror. So this is how...