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Re: [faithmaps] Existential Foundations in the OT

I will just refer to some texts of recent reading:
Psalm 1:1-3; Psalm 3:3-6; Psalm 4:3;7-8!  Psalm 5:11-12; Psalm 7:1,3-5,10;  Psalm 8, psalm 9; Psalm 10:17-18: Psalm 11:1, 3 {explicitly mentions foundations, NASB95],7;  Psalm 11, Psalm 15, psalm 16, Psalm 17:15 etc.
Psalm 36, Psalm 119, Psalm 84 and 85  Isaiah 3:1ff, Isaiah 17:10

By "existential foundations, I mean the many ways in which the Lord provides relationships, power, wisdom and Justice as well as nourishment to all people in some was and additionally to all those who find themselves brought  by Him to trust Him.  So the foundations are brought into existence to sustain humans in being, knowing, and doing, both naturaly, and for those who trust Him, supernaturally.  Existential foundations are just all the ways that humans both saved and unsaved are dependent on the Lord whether they acknowledge them and Him, or not, Romans 1:18-32.

Blessings!

Jon

Stephen Shields wrote:

Jon:

On Being and Knowing (metaphysics and epistemology) you wrote:

If we have a lively interactiove relationship with God we experience Him in many ways, one of the things  A Christian epistemologist should be doing is begin to describe the way that God is present in the interactive communication and the way that We respond to that.  There are, generic structures that come into play here that can be communicated wthout getting into personal stuff that should stay private etc.  we do this every week in our fellowship meetings! 

    One of the things that got phenomenology going was 600 years of philosophy without docility to the way things. people appear to us.  They were recovering premodern attitudes of listening, seeing, and meditating, letting beings be in Heidegger's phrasing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  A Christian epistemologist needs to begin to lay out, descriptively, what God is doing in interactive communication with him or herself and then see if others who have  ongoing interactive relationships have the same experiences. Dallas Willard, is doing Christian epistemology in an informal way but in so many ways it is of the highest importance and more important than worries about foundationalism which is a discussion too much in secular terms.  The fact is that God and His work are our foundations for everything in life.  The Bible is blowing me away as I read through the OT and see how much it says abiout what I call "existential foundations." “

Note to all:Docility is a wonderful medieval term for teachability.

Can you give some examples of “existential foundations” in the OT?

Stephen Shields

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I will just refer to some texts of recent reading: Psalm 1:1-3; Psalm 3:3-6; Psalm 4:3;7-8! Psalm 5:11-12; Psalm 7:1,3-5,10; Psalm 8, psalm 9; Psalm...
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