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Re: [faithmaps] Re: Article - Reason and Unreason

Yes! Plato illustrated this in his divided line, and myth of the cave and in
the meno. There is a radical world of intelligibility, a rich world full of
entities, ordered structures and laws to be discovered....Husserl in his
"Logical Investigations" and in his "Ideas" maps this out powerfully.
Physically unseen intelligible structures are embedded within every physical
entity as their necessary conditions for existence and change as Aristotle and
St. Thomas Aquinas show, powerfully. The rich world of intelligibility of real
entities and ordered structures and laws was blotted out by the British
Empiricist's mistakes and errors. Husserl's criticism of this movement in the
works mentioned is still worth studying......

Sorry for butting in ...but I am trying to get back into the fm discussions in
some small way...

Have missed you both and hope you are flourishing!

Love in Christ,

Jon

Dan Brennan wrote:

> Hi Lorna,
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> ......of yes, transpropositional *knowledge* which I keep trying to talk about
as being *other* than merely emotional exprience......and this apprehending is
done not by any part of our 'soul' but by our *spirit*
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> Dan: I would like to elaborate on this...maybe later on tomorrow or in the
next couple of days...but there is that ontological knowing--being--absorbing
Reality with our spirit which is by no means subjectivism or emotionalism--a
nonrational experience--but *STILL* a real transaction of transcendent
knowledge. :-) Intuiting the unseen Real---not emoting the unseen unreal.
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cool article, Jen! thanks! Russ ... From: "Ramers" <crramer@...> To: <faithmaps@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: Re:...
Russ Noland
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Jul 1, 2002
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Yes! Plato illustrated this in his divided line, and myth of the cave and in the meno. There is a radical world of intelligibility, a rich world full of...
Jonathan M Gold
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Jul 1, 2002
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jon gold wrote: Yes! Plato illustrated this in his divided line, and myth of the cave and in the meno. There is a radical world of intelligibility, a rich...
Stephen Shields
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Jul 4, 2002
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... From: Jonathan M Gold To: faithmaps@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [faithmaps] Re: Article - Reason and Unreason Hi Jon,...
Lorna Forrester
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Jul 1, 2002
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Hey Jon!!!! Soooo good to hear from you! :-) And my friend....its almost August....and I remember that Wisconsin trip you take... are you still planning it?...
Dan Brennan
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Jul 1, 2002
12:45 pm

Hi John, I am behind in my posts that I want to answer for fm...but I thought I would quickly jump into this one for a second... You wrote: I think one of the...
Dan Brennan
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Jul 1, 2002
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Hi Dan, By non-rational and non-emotional I meant that it is possible to have adeep spiritual perception without thinking/computing/analysing and without...
johnedmiston Offline Send Email Jul 2, 2002
12:29 am

Hi John, I must say that I know of no God in heaven who thinks without feeling. The Scripture reveals no such God. I wonder why you would think that knowing...
mattoskvarek2002
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Jul 2, 2002
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Hi Matt, Oh I agree! I just got booted off the Theology list for suggesting God was emotional - and proving it as politely as can be. If Christ is the perefct...
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Hi John, and blessings to you, monsieur. John, I like your post and words. I did chuckle when you said that you got "booted off" a theology list for suggesting...
mattoskvarek2002
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Jul 2, 2002
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... Heretic. Everyone knows God is a Vulcan. :') If Christ is the perefct image ... It was my "pleasure" to work with a whole store full of these people when...
Mike Stidham
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Jul 2, 2002
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Hi Mike, On the "whoosh" brigade....a woman I know wrecked her car because she spent four months intensely praying for the Lord to lead her to the right...
johnedmiston Offline Send Email Jul 3, 2002
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Sigh... I wrote:I believe both her approach and the above from what I know of it...could be perceived by technique of the necessary groundwork for deep trust...
Dan Brennan
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Jul 1, 2002
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Another oops...now it is definitely time to laugh at myself...LOL.. I should have written...both approaches...could be perceived as technique *if* the...
Dan Brennan
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Jul 1, 2002
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Hi dan, I think any counselling approach, without trust and love is a "clanging gong". I am more a cognitive therapist than a Theophostic one but Theophostcs...
johnedmiston Offline Send Email Jul 2, 2002
12:33 am

Hi, Dan! Due to my writing, researching and teaching, I am not going to Wisconsin this year. Staying right here and writing on my computer and trying to get...
Jonathan M Gold
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Jul 1, 2002
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Hi Stephen, Dan: That book I was I reading on the internet and psychology calls this intersectional proximity. ss: Oh, I didn't know that you had gone ahead...
Dan Brennan
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Jul 6, 2002
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Stephen & Russ, Count me in too. Stephen have you checked out Andrew Perriman's open theology site? This type of thing could be a great idea ...
Olthoff, Todd
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Apr 25, 2002
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Todd asked: Count me in too. Stephen have you checked out Andrew Perriman's open theology site? This type of thing could be a great idea ...
Stephen Shields
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Apr 28, 2002
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