I dont really think his opposition of existentialism and peak experiences is quite right. You can have peak experiences but you will still have the anguish of...
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bhvwd
Jun 27, 2008 7:13 pm
Mr. Max tells of a Nazi records center that has the numbers and the documentation of the Holocaust. The German trait of meticulous record keeping seems a fact...
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mary.jo11
Jun 27, 2008 7:43 pm
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and thank you for articulating so deftly this necessary denunciation. Mary...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 27, 2008 11:00 pm
As I recall from memory, Aleister Crowley once remarked, in his writings about yoga, in the book, "Magick", that it is by freeing the mind of external...
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Herman B. Triplegood
hermanbtripl...
Jun 28, 2008 2:57 am
Well said Louise. The way I try to approcah the differences that I see in various philosophers is this. They weren't just mouthing opinions and dogmas. Each...
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eupraxis@...
wsindarius
Jun 28, 2008 1:23 pm
... HB3 The philosophy that Louise is talking about as "Christian Nationalism" is of the extreme eight-wing sort, a la the independent British racial magazine,...
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mary.jo11
Jun 28, 2008 3:17 pm
I think a great thinker expect his thinking to be put on trial. Don't you think? Then again, perhaps these words from the poet Bill Knott are more appropriate:...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 29, 2008 12:00 am
... read ... Nationalism" is of ... magazine, ... preach about ... empathic abilities? ... No, Wil, my declaration of "Christian Nationalism" does not admit of...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 29, 2008 12:02 am
... No, I don't think so. A great thinker might expect his thinking to be examined for truth or consistency, and he might expect opposition or persecution or...
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wsindarius
Jun 29, 2008 12:38 am
Louise, Sorry to hear about your state of health. Otherwise, the Spearhead website still represents Hitler and others, and Tyndall was a colleague of our own...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 29, 2008 2:57 am
... Thank you for your sympathy. Good conversation is definitely one of the best tonics for those of us who suffer depressive and anxious conditions of mind....
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Herman B. Triplegood
hermanbtripl...
Jun 29, 2008 8:49 am
Wil: I had no idea that the term "Christian Nationalism" had those kinds of associations. I am pretty ignorant when it comes to things like right wing...
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wsindarius
Jun 29, 2008 1:31 pm
Agreed. WS ... ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)...
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wsindarius
Jun 29, 2008 2:14 pm
Louise, "I meant, Wil, that over the years, and the more so since the time of John Tyndall's death, I have come to think that Western civilisation is in...
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mary.jo11
Jun 29, 2008 2:41 pm
I suspect that national borders are intentionally left open for economic reasons. Whether ancient or nouveau, aristocrats will this and simultaneously pander...
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bhvwd
Jun 29, 2008 8:41 pm
... advantage. ... money to the wealthy. The universalist christians continually threatened me with some kind of curse if I made substantial money. Now that...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 29, 2008 9:00 pm
... of John ... in jeopardy ... states and ... that are ... first ... fact, a racist ... You rephrase and compress what I wrote, which yields something less ...
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wsindarius
Jun 29, 2008 10:57 pm
Louise, "You rephrase and compress what I wrote, which yields something less than truth. Civilisation is created by human beings, and race is one of the...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 29, 2008 11:25 pm
... less than ... the features ... meaning in this ... well. Perhaps that is a ... Wil, Whence do you derive your starting-point?? You have such a bee in...
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wsindarius
Jun 30, 2008 1:27 am
Louise, "You have such a bee in your bonnet about this concept, 'racism'." Response: Yeah, I'm funny like that. ... "It happens to be unfashionable at present,...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 30, 2008 10:15 am
Wil, I was hoping for a philosophical discussion in a philosophical spirit. This kind of exchange is a waste of time. You have decided in advance what it all...
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wsindarius
Jun 30, 2008 12:31 pm
Louise, No, the fact is that you do not want to own up to the propositions you have made. If you want to, yet again, hide behind your tendentious exasperations...
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louise
circean_delay
Jun 30, 2008 2:05 pm
Wil, I had hoped for a discussion. If I were feeling a little more robust, your accusations would all be part of a good-humoured and vigorous debate. It is...
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wsindarius
Jun 30, 2008 2:35 pm
"You present a caricature of my views on society and a travesty of my feelings of faith." The summation was exact. The travesty is of your own making. Whenever...
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mary.jo11
Jun 30, 2008 2:47 pm
... Bill, You continue to delight and impress me with your unique, existential ruminations! Hopefully your writing here helps to illuminate for other curious...
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louise
circean_delay
Jul 1, 2008 12:27 am
Wil, It seems good, after a few hours for reflection, to make a further attempt at clarification and explanation. Comments interspersed below. Louise ... you...
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louise
circean_delay
Jul 1, 2008 12:46 am
... all ... money. ... To ... tastes ... wish ... you ... impossible ... be ... was ... them . ... Should ... clever ... tried ... reading ... mind, ... ...
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wsindarius
Jul 1, 2008 1:45 am
Louise, I will let your last post to me stand for what it is. But are here, in answer to Mary, also coming out againt evolution as well? Darwin as cause of the...
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louise
circean_delay
Jul 1, 2008 2:10 am
... in answer ... of the ... the chosen ... No, Wil, I am not coming out against evolution. Creation theory seems to me massively improbable. The urban...
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PoetCSW
Jul 1, 2008 4:03 am
I think we are witnessing the problems associated with relativism, something that is not actually embraced by any of the "existentialists" I can recall. If...
