As I am a survivor of one of these programs (Love in Action 1988) (John Paulk was in my program and I am mentioned in his book.) I do not believe that the...
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Bob Griffith
blgriffith
Jan 23, 2004 8:10 pm
I must say, THAT is a very good question! Bob...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Jan 23, 2004 10:50 pm
... You have made some good points in your letter. What distrsses me is why on earth those who claim to follow Him who said "I am TRUTH" find it necessary to...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 24, 2004 1:48 pm
<<What distrsses me is why on earth those who claim to follow Him who said "I am TRUTH" find it necessary to lie.>> When one buys into the lie that to have a...
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dixibehr@...
kumquatqt
Jan 24, 2004 3:28 pm
... Alex, do you have the source of Dr. Norman's quote? Dr. Ralph Blair has remarked that the leadership of so many ex-gay groups are in the hands of...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 24, 2004 4:24 pm
<<Alex, do you have the source of Dr. Norman's quote?>> Yes, as a matter of fact. The quote is from an article titled "Gay No More?" -- a very interesting and...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 31, 2004 2:55 pm
Hermeneutics simply put is the science of interpreting the Bible. Interpreting the Bible is not a simple process of reading what has been written. The meaning...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 31, 2004 2:57 pm
Leviticus 18:22 (20:13) "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." As increasing numbers of Christians are learning,...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 31, 2004 3:01 pm
Romans 1:26-27: "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 31, 2004 5:02 pm
Though most Christians who espouse antigay theology like to use Romans 1 as their biggest weapon, a closer look at the text reveals a number of significant...
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nyguy_1225
Jan 31, 2004 5:18 pm
In light of the current and increasingly heated debate on codifying marriage on biblical grounds, following is a tongue-in-cheek look (complete with Bible...
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Drew VanDyche
vandyche
Feb 1, 2004 6:22 am
A very scholarly and academic approach, I applaud you. It is good to look at these issues with insight and perspective. I have a feeling that I may be opening...
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Michael
philipm10
Feb 6, 2004 11:19 am
I also wanted to mention that while Warren Throckmorton, a professor at Grove City College who works with NARTH, puts out columns supporting the false claims...
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nyguy_1225
Feb 25, 2004 11:48 pm
I see that quite a few new members have joined over the past few weeks. (I always wonder when new memebers join without posting, is it to have access to...
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tallone63
Mar 1, 2004 7:27 am
Check out these great pictures of weddings in San Francisco: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/document.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/02/18/gaywedgallery.DTL I particularly love the...
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Tidal Hudson
tidal_hudson...
Mar 7, 2004 10:05 pm
Hi I was going to subscribe to yout group and it already says that i belong but I do not get any of the posts can someone help me. Tidal clippers@......
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nyguy_1225
Mar 7, 2004 11:18 pm
Tidal, in regard to your query you are subscribed to the group but have your preferences set to read posts on the board as opposed to having them sent to you...
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Norm
nojam75
Mar 7, 2004 11:49 pm
It's been an exciting week here in Portland. The Tuesday afternoon decision by the Multnomah County Commission came without any warning to people on both...
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alankhoo92002
Mar 8, 2004 2:22 pm
Just wondering if there are ex-ex-gay groups which would challenge these ex-gay groups publically? Alan CNN.com Sunday, March 7, 2004 Posted: 1:58 PM EST (1858...
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Bob Griffith
blgriffith
Mar 8, 2004 11:00 pm
I have wondered why there are no ex-ex-gay and Evangelical gay organizations speaking out in a public way! Soulforce speaks out and protests, but they come...
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Davd_none@...
davd_none
Mar 9, 2004 3:24 pm
Bob, There is an excellent organization which facilitates good dialouge between thinking men and women on "both sides of the fence." It's the Bridges Across...
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Bob Griffith
blgriffith
Mar 9, 2004 4:54 pm
Dave, Thanks for the info. I am familiar with the website. I agree that they do a good job, but they are a web-based information source. There needs to be an...
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nyguy_1225
Mar 9, 2004 6:22 pm
Here are three of what I consider the best of the best of what's out there: (1) Roy Clement: http://www.royclements.co.uk/ Roy has some of most articulate and...
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Tidal Hudson
tidal_hudson...
Mar 9, 2004 11:25 pm
I hope that this is a safe friendly place. Hi my name is Tidal, I am a 43 year old christian gay man. I went throught the Ex-gay ministry thing 23 years ago....
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nyguy_1225
Mar 10, 2004 1:12 am
Hi Tidal, thanks for sharing a bit of your journey. For what it may be worth none of us are Christians because we're "good enough." Goodness never had...
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JC
roo7861
Mar 10, 2004 1:19 am
Hi Everyone: In regard to Bob's query about evangelical voices for gay people, check out: www.ecinc.org. Cheers! James "God bless the whole world... no...
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Drew VanDyche
vandyche
Mar 12, 2004 4:09 am
Alex: I am always impressed by your perspective and your kind words on wisdom and encouragement. Thanks for being there. Drew VanDyche 1988 Survivor Love in...
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Tidal Hudson
tidal_hudson...
Mar 12, 2004 11:53 am
I always knew I was gay since I was very young. I grew up in a very legalistic Baptist. I came to know the Lord when I was 12. I felt horribly guilty, prayed...
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Tidal Hudson
tidal_hudson...
Mar 12, 2004 11:53 am
Hi Drew I lived in the Love In Action ministry in San Rafael in 1980. It is so good to know that we are not alone. God Bless, Tidal, [Non-text portions of...
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nyguy_1225
Mar 12, 2004 1:39 pm
Drew, thank you for YOUR kind words. -Alex ... wisdom and encouragement. ... their audience ... expand their audience ... their audience ... ...