REPLY: You bring some very interesting points and I agree with many. However, there are a few things you don't cover. For example: 1. Either the Bible IS or...
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nyguy_1225
Jun 15, 2002 4:10 pm
Although I don't have time to review the entire thread I see there have been a number of posts as to why one would or could consider themselves an evangelical...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 13, 2002 6:26 am
Jerry, You asked why I said Pat Robertson was infamous for stealing from (and killing) the poor. If you do this Google search, you'll see what I'm talking...
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nojam75
Jun 13, 2002 5:47 am
I'm sorry you think I'm "bashing" ex-gays. Although I admit that I am critical of the ex-gay movement, I don't think my comments are "bashing". Frankly, I...
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rexjoiner
Jun 13, 2002 1:39 am
Norm, in my opinion, it's very unfortunate that so many who did not have a good experience with ex-gay ministries [for whatever reason(s)] are "bending over...
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nojam75
Jun 12, 2002 7:25 am
James Dobson's Focus on the Family will be holding their ex-gay conference, Love Won Out, on Saturday, June 22, 2002 in Kansas City, Missouri. Among the...
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rexjoiner
Jun 12, 2002 4:22 am
Mike, thanks for the information. I was pretty sure that someone out there could steer me in the right direction. I will look it up as soon as possible, but...
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rexjoiner
Jun 12, 2002 4:22 am
Mike, I agree that Pat Robertson certainly did the body of Christ and himself a dis-service when he bought an expensive race horse. I don't know what he was...
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rexjoiner
Jun 12, 2002 4:22 am
Good points, Mike, but I don't think I am forstering untrue statements by asking if it's true. I wasn't passing it off as truth. I was asking the question...
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rexjoiner
Jun 12, 2002 4:22 am
Yes, but that's not the kind of evangelism that Jesus and the Bible teaches. Jerry On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Pat Scott <patthecatwv@...> ...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 12, 2002 1:51 am
Or, to be even more succinct: Good evangelists facilitate others' spiritual and material journeys. They don't dictate and they don't subtract, spiritually or...
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nojam75
Jun 11, 2002 6:35 am
... have an ... lecture, he ... to ... Excellent points! I had a thought along those lines, but I couldn't figure out how to word it. - Norm!...
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nojam75
Jun 11, 2002 2:40 am
... I would not try to differentiate liberal in discussing the fundamentalist-modernist spectrum. Maybe we are just using different terminology to describe...
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calldon2k
Jun 11, 2002 12:27 am
... Hi Norm, I did not use the term "modernist"...you did. Maybe you should give your definition so I will know exactly what you are talking about. However, I...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 10, 2002 9:47 am
Hi again, Jerry, I really do hope you'll contact Mr. Ofstedahl. It will be a learning experience for all of us. I'm writing this because, when you read...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 10, 2002 8:15 am
Jerry, It helps to look things up. I'll help you out here, but it's ultimately going to be your obligation to finish the research, since you're the one making...
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rexjoiner
Jun 10, 2002 2:32 am
Does anyone out there have access to Echo Magazine? There is a disturbing quote attributed to Echo Magazine as follows: "You can say what you want about...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 9, 2002 5:45 pm
I think evangelism can be violent when it is practiced as a one-way affair. Evangelism can two-way: People with different faith perspectives have an ...
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Pat Scott
patthecatwv
Jun 9, 2002 5:37 pm
I think evangelism can be verbally and emotionally violent- Ive experienced real cruelty in the name of God, and the scripture. In fact, its driven me away...
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Michael Airhart
webprayerguy
Jun 9, 2002 3:20 pm
Somehow, discussions about evangelism inevitably focus on the quacks who are loudest and slickest about their heresy -- while ignoring the majority of...
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nojam75
Jun 9, 2002 7:11 am
... How would you define modernist? ... In the 20th century context, American Evangelism was refined by church leaders who were attempting to keep Christianity...
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nojam75
Jun 9, 2002 6:54 am
Jerry, I agree that Evangelism in its purist form should about sharing and living up to Jesus' message. However, I can't say that the Evangelism I've seen is...
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calldon2k
Jun 7, 2002 6:11 am
... That definition is only partially correct. Bawer leaves out WHAT a fundamentalist is. The term was used because, unlike the growing trend, this group...
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rexjoiner
Jun 7, 2002 4:32 am
On Thu, 06 Jun 2002 04:53:34 -0000 "nojam75" <nojam75@...> writes: Bishop John Shelby Spong even calls evangelism a form of violence. So, I've never...
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nojam75
Jun 6, 2002 4:53 am
According to Bruce Bawer's book, Stealing Jesus, the term 'fundamentalist' was coined in 1920 by the editor of a Baptist publication to refer to the...
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rexjoiner
Jun 6, 2002 2:44 am
Norm, I was brought up in a church which prided itself in being "fundamental" to the gospel. Recently, there has been a shift in that church in stating that...
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calldon2k
Jun 4, 2002 4:56 pm
... Norm, THAT is a great observation! Maintaining their version of "pure doctrine" seems to be the goal. Never mind if they insult the intelligence of every...
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nojam75
Jun 4, 2002 7:03 am
I have already had the discussion regarding my views on fundamentalism. Nor is this an appropriate forum to get bogged down into all the nitty-gritty...
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rexjoiner
Jun 4, 2002 4:25 am
Just curious, Norm. Specifically, what fundamentalist doctrines did you believe then that you no longer believe? --Jerry in Michigan ... ...
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nojam75
Jun 3, 2002 5:23 am
Thanks for sharing Pat & Chris! Pat, you make an important distinction in that you didn't "decide" to leave ex-gay ministry, but you "gave up". I relate very...
