Yes, Fern, but now they say you can register your own school : Now You can
Register Your Own School: http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/ and they give
the instructions to do so, and they even say at the bottom of the page:
"Again, feel free to share this information with other educators and through
education mailing lists. But do exercise caution to prevent students from
learning how to set up schools"

So, I really do not know how to go about this. if there should be only a code
per institution, this code this code should be the institution's not your
personal code. They say this:

"After you have completed the form and clicked the submit button, BlogMeister
will reload with a message in yellow replacing the school form. This message
will include your school's access code. Write this code down and then share it
with other teachers in your school who may be interested in experimenting with
blog writing"

This might be possible in a small school but not in larger institutions, like
the one I work for.

Hmmmm

Daf


Fernanda Rodrigues <fernanda.rodrigues@...> wrote:
Hi, Daf
Have you read:
http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blogmeister_instructions.pdf
It seems we need a school pass code, and only then we can register as
teachers.
As for your your question, I interpret that just as a reference to the
school where we work. I wouldn't feel compelled to ask for permission or
even inform my school headmaster. As you say, he might not even know
what a blog is.
Fernanda


On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 07:27:27 -0800 (PST)
Dafne <dygonza@...> wrote:

>
> Hmm, I have been reading about the registration processs, and it says:
>
> "Follow these steps to register your school so that you can register yourself
as a BlogMeister teacher:"
>
> I do not think we as teachers are entitled to register a blog for our
institutions without the previous consent of the authorities. Maybe I should ask
for an appointment with the rector of my university to ask: can I open a blog
for the university? He might not even know what a blog is :-(
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Daf
>
> Robert Brannan <elderbob@...> wrote:
>
> Wow! Here is a idea, I really wish I had thought of.  David Warlick
> has created something called the "Blogmeister" that allows the
> instructor to set up a blogging account for his students.  Not only
> can the Instructor Blog but so can the students.  The real "catch"
> here is that the student's blogging does not appear until after the
> instructor has approved it.  Ergo, no naughty tales or things that
> ought not be said, and maybe even a chance for language instructors to
> correct mistakes before they go into print.  It would certainly give
> students a better chance at making a good impression on the readers.
>
> http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/
>
> I didn't see anything about fees.  If anyone uses it, let me know how
> it worked out.
>
> elderbob
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Daf; I may be reading it in a very informal way, but I think it is a way
to avoid having to email David Warlick asking for a school pass code
(which I just did, cause I didn't notice this link : "Now You can
Register Your Own School"
http://www.landmark-project.com/blogmeister/index.php?displ
ay=blogmeister&id=85&panel=)

I don't think anyone will matter at my school if I register it, but I
cannot decide about  yours.
Fernanda


On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:20:59 -0800 (PST)
Dafne <dygonza@...> wrote:

>
> Yes, Fern, but now they say you can register your own school : Now You can
Register Your Own School: http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/ and they give
the instructions to do so, and they even say at the bottom of the page:
> "Again, feel free to share this information with other educators and through
education mailing lists. But do exercise caution to prevent students from
learning how to set up schools"
>
> So, I really do not know how to go about this. if there should be only a code
per institution, this code this code should be the institution's not your
personal code. They say this:
>
> "After you have completed the form and clicked the submit button, BlogMeister
will reload with a message in yellow replacing the school form. This message
will include your school's access code. Write this code down and then share it
with other teachers in your school who may be interested in experimenting with
blog writing"
>
> This might be possible in a small school but not in larger institutions, like
the one I work for.
>
> Hmmmm
>
> Daf
>
>
> Fernanda Rodrigues <fernanda.rodrigues@...> wrote:
> Hi, Daf
> Have you read:
http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blogmeister_instructions.pdf
> It seems we need a school pass code, and only then we can register as
> teachers.
> As for your your question, I interpret that just as a reference to the
> school where we work. I wouldn't feel compelled to ask for permission or
> even inform my school headmaster. As you say, he might not even know
> what a blog is.
> Fernanda
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 07:27:27 -0800 (PST)
> Dafne <dygonza@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmm, I have been reading about the registration processs, and it says:
> >
> > "Follow these steps to register your school so that you can register
yourself as a BlogMeister teacher:"
> >
> > I do not think we as teachers are entitled to register a blog for our
institutions without the previous consent of the authorities. Maybe I should ask
for an appointment with the rector of my university to ask: can I open a blog
for the university? He might not even know what a blog is :-(
> >
> > What do you all think?
> >
> > Daf
> >
> > Robert Brannan <elderbob@...> wrote:
> >
> > Wow! Here is a idea, I really wish I had thought of.  David Warlick
> > has created something called the "Blogmeister" that allows the
> > instructor to set up a blogging account for his students.  Not only
> > can the Instructor Blog but so can the students.  The real "catch"
> > here is that the student's blogging does not appear until after the
> > instructor has approved it.  Ergo, no naughty tales or things that
> > ought not be said, and maybe even a chance for language instructors to
> > correct mistakes before they go into print.  It would certainly give
> > students a better chance at making a good impression on the readers.
> >
> > http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/
> >
> > I didn't see anything about fees.  If anyone uses it, let me know how
> > it worked out.
> >
> > elderbob
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I think that "Blogmeister" will allow anyone to set up a blog site here.
The sign in process, just allows the owner to decide whether to let
you use the site or not.  Apparently, he is pretty flexible because he
let me sign up and as many of you know, I am not officially connected
with any formal teaching institution.

I have dummied up an opening page for you to look at:
http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blog.php?blogger_id=204
Now, if you write back and tell me that it is not there, then I am
back to square one regarding using this site.

elderbob

It's there Bob :-)  That's good news, I would not like to create an account on
behalf of my university (a public one, ruled by the gov't and the new laws which
control mass media information with strict regulations that can take you to jail
for a couple of years if they do not like what you say) :-(

hugs,
Daf

Robert Brannan <elderbob@...> wrote:

I think that "Blogmeister" will allow anyone to set up a blog site here.
The sign in process, just allows the owner to decide whether to let
you use the site or not.  Apparently, he is pretty flexible because he
let me sign up and as many of you know, I am not officially connected
with any formal teaching institution.

I have dummied up an opening page for you to look at:
http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blog.php?blogger_id=204
Now, if you write back and tell me that it is not there, then I am
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Right, Bob. I've already created a blog there and have also posted
an article to your blog, have you seen it? (An article is the term
for entry or post at Blogmeister).

I've also tried to upload images,however, I was unable to view them!
(Oops probably they want users to provide images that are already
published on the Internet!)

The interesting thing is that your IP is immediately recorded when
you try to post an article or entry; this what I've noticed when I
was trying to post my comment to Bob!).

Daf, like Fernanda, I've casually or informally dealt with the
registeration procedures. I don't think that my institution would
care about that; besdies they should actually brag about us since we
are spreading their name almost everywhere educational and
respectful in the cyberspace; right?

Thanks, Bob, and please let us know once you find my entry or
article!

Best,

Buth

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Brannan"
<elderbob@e...> wrote:
>
> I think that "Blogmeister" will allow anyone to set up a blog site
here.
> The sign in process, just allows the owner to decide whether to let
> you use the site or not.  Apparently, he is pretty flexible
because he
> let me sign up and as many of you know, I am not officially
connected
> with any formal teaching institution.
>
> I have dummied up an opening page for you to look at:
> http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blog.php?blogger_id=204
> Now, if you write back and tell me that it is not there, then I am
> back to square one regarding using this site.
>
> elderbob

It works, and I have added this ElderU blog to the set of bookmarks here:

http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/papers/evonline2002/community.htm#elderbo\
b

Cheers,

Vance

----- Original Message -----
> Robert Brannan <elderbob@...> wrote:
>
> I think that "Blogmeister" will allow anyone to set up a blog site here.
> The sign in process, just allows the owner to decide whether to let
> you use the site or not.  Apparently, he is pretty flexible because he
> let me sign up and as many of you know, I am not officially connected
> with any formal teaching institution.
>
> I have dummied up an opening page for you to look at:
> http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blog.php?blogger_id=204
> Now, if you write back and tell me that it is not there, then I am
> back to square one regarding using this site.
>
> elderbob
>
>

Hi everyone,

I'm about to go prime time on an article I've just written on the topic of
my EVOnline session coming up soon.  The article is here:

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/tesl-ej/04dec/webpre\
s.htm

If you get a chance to have a look and care to make any critical comments or
suggestions, I'd appreciate the feedback.

Thanks,

Vance

Hi, Bob!

I've also added it to the WiA Index under blogs. Where else?  ;-)

Thanks for all the info. I'm going to try creating one for my students.

Hugs,

Teresa


> It works, and I have added this ElderU blog to the set of bookmarks here:
http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/papers/evonline2002/community.htm#elderbo\
b
> Vance

On this list, and on others, the subject of earning more money -
which boils down to providing more value, either perceptively or in
reality - than "just" teaching English to a relatively small number
of persons. Recently I made some comments in that regard (If
interested in same, send me a note). Those comments did *not* include
the challenge - and opportunity - of training Chinese teachers to
teach ESL.

This is the focus of what http://www.dyned.com does. It also seems
the most promising for those native language speakers who may wish to
"go to the next level". I would be interested in learning how many
are interested in "training" and/or how many have some experience in
same?

I hope this attracts as much interest as does the forum that Bee is
conducting re: blogging and ESL/EFL. In fact, I think the two are
intimately connectable. Thus, I am sending this note to
Webheads Group
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads/>

and, "Bee's" Weblogging Group
<tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/weblogging/>

"teach" Group
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TEFLChina/>

Last thought - probably for Bee - perhaps we should take a single
topic and make it the focus of the Webblogging *content* effort?
Perhaps Dee Bond would like to join the blogging group and for
purposes of attracting posts to a "training" blog? Or, would this end
up mixing apples and oranges in a way that both get bruised?

John Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu




At 12:26 PM +1100 1/9/05, Dee Bond wrote:
>I am so pleased this subject came up.  I am still 'on holiday' in Australia,
>returning to China in a week, and have been 'told' that when I return,
>within one week I am giving a course to some Chinese teachers!  As I am 'on
>holiday' I didn't want to start working on a course 'plan' so to speak,
>apart from which I've not been 'told' what the aims and objectives are of
>the course (I don't think they know! .. so I shall be doing my usual "on the
>board" needs analysis for the first lesson).
>
>But any ideas to make it interesting would help.  I have no idea how many
>teachers I will be teaching, what their English level is, nothing.  This is
>the norm, I know.
>
>I've taught methodology to native English speakers, that's not a problem.
>But putting the 'message' across (if that's what they want!), to Chinese
>teachers (and the Chinese English teachers I've met so far have a very low -
>elementary at best - level of English), will be a challenge.
>
>cheers
>Dee Bond
>

Hello Bob,
I had a look at your opening page and liked it, but when I tried to register
myself I was asked for a school code and it didn't work for me!!  What did
you do to register?
Thanks a lot!!

Susan in Florence
.....................

I think that "Blogmeister" will allow anyone to set up a blog site here.
The sign in process, just allows the owner to decide whether to let
you use the site or not.  Apparently, he is pretty flexible because he
let me sign up and as many of you know, I am not officially connected
with any formal teaching institution.

I have dummied up an opening page for you to look at:
http://landmark-project.com/blogmeister/blog.php?blogger_id=204
Now, if you write back and tell me that it is not there, then I am
back to square one regarding using this site.

elderbob

Hi John and all webheads,

I read your contribution with great interest and have a bad conscience not to
have contributed to other people's input so far.
I must admit I was a bit 'overwhelmed'  when reading about all the blogs and had
no clue what they actually were. I looked at and admired the pages I was linked
to and then Vance enlightened me with his paper. I found on Bee's interesting
'blog' that she obviously has used KeeBoo which I have just started creating and
working with last year. So I felt I did not really have much to say. If anyone
is interested in my first keebook you'll find it under
www.e-learning-international.com under news. On this website you can also find
an 'abacus demo' showing the platform I have been working on for several years.


I have been training trainers for a couple of years now. In the adult education
sector, where I work, there seems to be an overload of trained trainers, but not
enough learners interested in learning online. Some people in companies complain
that they work at computers all day and don't want to spend their spare time
learning at computers. This is what most of them say  BEFORE  actually taking
part in an online course. As soon as they have started, we can easily win them
and make them realise how communicative and interesting online learning can be
and with the right blend, that it can really be challenging and most effective.
However, you are addressing costs.
This seems to me like one of the biggest problems and difficult to solve.
The teachers we train feel that they are better qualified than ordinary teachers
and want more money for running an online course than they'd get for a face-to-
face course. Online learning in my view becomes a more individualised learning
with more intensive tuition, which requires more tutor time.
When you then add the costs for hosting a platform, books CD-ROMS and what have
you, online learning can become quite costly.
I don't know what your experience is in this respect. Of course there are free
resources on the net like Yahoo messenger, Nicenet and others, but I don't think
you can use them when you have to  charge for the course.

Presently I am running an English course for 16 young woman who are trained to
return to their jobs after a break ( bringing up the children etc.)
Among other things - like word and excell etc. they have to learn 6-8 hours
English every week. The course started in November and finishes in May.
Some of the students will finish the course with the Cambridge BEC Preliminary
examination and others with the European English Language Certificate.
The material I'm using is some online course material (digital publishing) 
which comes in a package for all different levels and I picked A2 and B1 (Common
European Framework).
http://www.digitalpublishing.de/international/international-set.htm
In addition to that there are face-to-face sessions every second week.
We are also using an ordinary course book - which is used in the face-to-face
sessions, which are run by a different tutor (I'm living 800 km away from where
the students are based). This is not ideal, but OK.
I am using the Course Book for inspiration, transferring some activities into
collaborative tasks. (Three or 4 each week).
  I have devided the group into 3 small groups of 5 and 6. This is to prevent
people from information overload. The participants have also got a room where
they can ALL communicate.

In addition to the asynchronous sessions we are planning to integrate some
synchronous sessions. The institution is working with 'Centra'. I have worked
with this system before and am quite familiar with it. I think it doesn't differ
much from Elluminate?

One of the most important things I have found as an onliner over the past 8
years is that it is essential to be in the position of a learner as often as you
can. This way I've learned a lot about NOT to do things:-)

I'm afraid, John, this did not really quite answer your question? But at the
moment I'm not sure where to attend what. Maybe I could join Bee with blogging,
but I am also very interested in online methodology and course design.

  Kind regards... and a happy new year to everyone!
Christel


   On this list, and on others, the subject of earning more money -
   which boils down to providing more value, either perceptively or in
   reality - than "just" teaching English to a relatively small number
   of persons. Recently I made some comments in that regard (If
   interested in same, send me a note). Those comments did *not* include
   the challenge - and opportunity - of training Chinese teachers to
   teach ESL.

   This is the focus of what http://www.dyned.com does. It also seems
   the most promising for those native language speakers who may wish to
   "go to the next level". I would be interested in learning how many
   are interested in "training" and/or how many have some experience in
   same?

   I hope this attracts as much interest as does the forum that Bee is
   conducting re: blogging and ESL/EFL. In fact, I think the two are
   intimately connectable. Thus, I am sending this note to
   Webheads Group
   <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads/>

   and, "Bee's" Weblogging Group
   <tp://groups.yahoo.com/group/weblogging/>

   "teach" Group
   <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TEFLChina/>

   Last thought - probably for Bee - perhaps we should take a single
   topic and make it the focus of the Webblogging *content* effort?
   Perhaps Dee Bond would like to join the blogging group and for
   purposes of attracting posts to a "training" blog? Or, would this end
   up mixing apples and oranges in a way that both get bruised?

   John Hibbs
   http://www.bfranklin.edu




   At 12:26 PM +1100 1/9/05, Dee Bond wrote:
   >I am so pleased this subject came up.  I am still 'on holiday' in Australia,
   >returning to China in a week, and have been 'told' that when I return,
   >within one week I am giving a course to some Chinese teachers!  As I am 'on
   >holiday' I didn't want to start working on a course 'plan' so to speak,
   >apart from which I've not been 'told' what the aims and objectives are of
   >the course (I don't think they know! .. so I shall be doing my usual "on the
   >board" needs analysis for the first lesson).
   >
   >But any ideas to make it interesting would help.  I have no idea how many
   >teachers I will be teaching, what their English level is, nothing.  This is
   >the norm, I know.
   >
   >I've taught methodology to native English speakers, that's not a problem.
   >But putting the 'message' across (if that's what they want!), to Chinese
   >teachers (and the Chinese English teachers I've met so far have a very low -
   >elementary at best - level of English), will be a challenge.
   >
   >cheers
   >Dee Bond
   >


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I was in a similar situation in Tunisia recently, had to put on a course but
couldn't get directives before hand, most likely because they weren't really
known, and what can they 'know', it's a whole new world?

Anyway, this is what I did:
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/tunisia2004/mahdia.h\
tm

Vance

At 12:26 PM +1100 1/9/05, Dee Bond wrote:
> >I am so pleased this subject came up.  I am still 'on holiday' in
Australia,
> >returning to China in a week, and have been 'told' that when I return,
> >within one week I am giving a course to some Chinese teachers!  As I am
'on
> >holiday' I didn't want to start working on a course 'plan' so to speak,
> >apart from which I've not been 'told' what the aims and objectives are of
> >the course (I don't think they know! .. so I shall be doing my usual "on
the
> >board" needs analysis for the first lesson).
> >
> >But any ideas to make it interesting would help.  I have no idea how many
> >teachers I will be teaching, what their English level is, nothing.  This
is
> >the norm, I know.
> >
> >I've taught methodology to native English speakers, that's not a problem.
> >But putting the 'message' across (if that's what they want!), to Chinese
> >teachers (and the Chinese English teachers I've met so far have a very
low -
> >elementary at best - level of English), will be a challenge.
> >
> >cheers
> >Dee Bond
>

Hello,

I guess the subject line says it all. Can anyone recommend any
textbook (or any kind of resources, for that matter) suitable for
college EFL (L1=Chinese) learners in a "Home page design" course? Any
and all thoughts would  be appreciated.

Susan,
This device appears to be so new (Only went on line shortly before
Christmas), that there are lot of things still changing about it.  I
first read about it on the WWWEDU where David frequently posts.  At
that time, I could go to the page I mentioned in my first post about
Blogmeister and create my own school code.   Now, it redirects me to
my blog there instead.  I also have noticed that the most recent post
to David's blog says to post to him first, and he will assign you a
school code.  I don't blame him for doing that, and in fact, I would
not be shocked to find that my ability to get in and set up this blog
may have given him the idea that he needed more control over who gets
in.  There is still another way to do it from the WWWEDU group, but I
think your best bet is to email David and request a school code and
that will get you in.  I also think he needs to be made aware of some
of your concerns about whether it should be your code or the school's
code.  Perhaps, he will re-think how he has the set up structured.
Either way, I think that he will be delighted to hear that you are all
interested in his program.

If that doesn't work, let me know and maybe I can chat with him about it.

Elderbob

PS.  Here is David's email address: david@...

any more idea from anyone to help me and my son?

Thanks 2 all

love

peace

isa


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Vance is remarkable. don't miss the photos, found here
http://tinyurl.com/3uncc

(I believe the photos do more for classroom motivation and further
enquiry than anything. Thank you)

At 7:05 AM +0400 1/10/05, vstevens wrote:
>I was in a similar situation in Tunisia recently, had to put on a course but
>couldn't get directives before hand, most likely because they weren't really
>known, and what can they 'know', it's a whole new world?
>
>Anyway, this is what I did:
><http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/tunisia2004/mahdia\
.htm>


also <http://tinyurl.com/6ue95>

Dear all,
> i just featured my essay on Tapped In and SLL in my
TI2 office.
You can find it on PantelisC office
thanks to all 4 their help
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Venue: Thames Valley University, Reading Campus
Date: February 26th, 2005

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Quite amazing ;-)

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INDEPENDENTLY ONLINE
Venue: Thames Valley University, Reading Campus
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Do the same principles of learner autonomy in the classroom apply in the online
learning situation? The Conference will aim to explore the principles and
practices which need to be considered in an online learning environment where
the aim is to support and foster greater learner autonomy.  It will consider how
different factors affect the design and functionality of materials for such an
environment

Keynote speakers:
Barbara Sinclair
Klaus Schwienhorst
Gavin Dudeney & Nicky Hockly

There will also be a session on exchange of ideas where each individual will
have a 10-minute slot to present a practical activity, based on the principles
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Got this announcement  from Janet Feldman from the mincius soda laboratory.
I thought it might be of interest .
Bee

URL:
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Description:  UNESCO calls for proposals for projects to be funded by its
Information for All Programme (IFAP), an international information society
initiative. The goal is to support the development of common strategies,
methods, and tools for building inclusive, open and pluralistic knowledge
societies and for narrowing the gap between the information rich and the
information poor. IFAP furthers UNESCO's mandate to contribute to education
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At 1:17 PM -0800 1/10/05, Dafne wrote:
>Hmm, a conference about lerner autonomy in online learning to be
>held f2f.  Quite amazing ;-)
Daf, every year, for almost a decade, I have had fun tweaking the
noses of organizers to "the largest distance education gathering" (in
Wisconsin) about the fact that none of their conference is available
virtually. (Actually, I think they started to post some of the papers
on line and I think there was talk last year that they might webcast
a small portion of same.) They never seem to get the connection
"practice what you preach." (Sometimes it amusing to read their
remarks, including "we don't have the technology or know-how to do
that". mmmmmmmm

Hi everyone.

A while back I tried to entice people in amongst the revelry of Christmas
and New Year to post their thoughts on what constitutes cutting edge tools
in the ESL/EFL classroom as a lead up to a presentation I have to do on
that topic on January 20th at GMT 22.30.

Only Eric Baber and Don Hinkelman took the bait so I'm trying again! This
time via a Wimba voice board at http://tinyurl.com/5qsc2 So if you can be
enticed, and you have something to say on what may be cutting edge, please
add your thoughts to this voice board.

I have asked Bee and Daf to contribute to this presentation, but all
Webheads are of course welcome. It will be in LT (Elluminate), and probably
in my office there but I'll confirm that later.

There will be a one hour workshop following the presentation that requires
a Webhead or 3 present too so the whole thing will go from GMT 22.30 Jan 20
till 00.45 Jan 21.

Cheers,

- Michael.

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Woo Joy, thank you very, very much for this contribution, below I
have not snipped because it is worth re-reading.

Can you imagine the resentment if you worked for an American in
Chicago and they imported Chinese to do "your" job - paid them twice
as much as you, gave them all the perks, and looked down their nose
at you because of your skin color or the fact that your native
language was not Mandarin? Especially after you observed that many of
your Chinese counterparts were - partly or fully some combination of
- loud, frivolous, drunk, whiny, culturally and politically ignorant,
and a Fox News follower to boot.

I hope the below is forward to other ESL lists along with my genuine
belief that native English speakers who go abroad to teach are among
the finest human beings on the planet. If there is a dichotomy to
that belief and my statement above - well so be it. (Another part of
my belief is that AFTER time abroad, working in situations as most
EFL/ESL teachers do, they grow and mature and learn and become the
kind of person that truly makes for a great world citizens - and a
safer, saner planet.)

My two cents

John Hibbs
http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs

At 8:10 PM +0800 1/11/05, woo joy wrote:
"woo joy" <joy_wulina@...>

>It seems that nobody is satisfied with their current situation. At
>least in my university, the foreigh teachers are treated well, or
>can I say, better than the Chinese staff.
>
>I am a Chinese assistant professor at a University. My pay is half
>as much as my American colleagues. My workload is like eight hours
>per week, and theirs twelve to fourteen. They are provided with
>brand new two-bedroom apartment with all the furniture, computer,
>and even kitch utensils. Everything is free, plus they provide a
>maid to clean up your apartment everyday. While the Chinese staff
>are only provided with shared dormitories, and the rent is like
>300kuai a month. here is no such thing as free housing. You need to
>buy the house through a very complicated selection procidure and you
>pay full price, but just get half ownership. The foreigh teachers
>get round trip tickets, travel stipend for winter break. When I went
>with my American friend to the office to get her travel stipend, I
>thought I was maltreated by the university, as I have been working
>here for five years. They are never so considerate to us.
>
>Basically I'm working on research projects year round, and it's part
>of my job assignment to publish papers. We have shorter vacations
>than the foreign teachers and take more responsibiliies in a lot of
>things like supervise different exams, other assignments from the
>office, different meetings and we are closely wached by the academic
>office.
>
>This is not meant to complain, just to offer the other side of the
>picture. As far as I know, foreign teachers get the best treatment
>from the school authority in the universities, compared to the
>Chinese stsff.  There is no rosy picture of an easy job, for Chinese
>or westerners. this is the job we choose, and there must be
>something that we like.
>

Hello,

I could not find the original message; assume it was from another list.

I hope to present a nuanced response here, and hope no one will snip
one sentence and use it to ride a hobby-horse. :-)

First off, there is no doubt that native English speakers are spoiled
in comparison with Chinese academics in mainland China. There is also
no doubt that many teachers, perhaps especially including relative
newcomers, come to take this treatment for granted. They often become
ceaseless complainers. The original poster is clearly and inarguably
correct.

However, there is some gray area to that side as well. The main thing
I would point to in order to moderate comlaints about complainers is
that "taking this treatment for granted" is definitely not the only
major reason for their compliants. The other reason, and it should be
fairly obvious, is culture shock.

When I was in Taiwan, the newcomer-teachers from the West would huddle
in little groups in the corner and complain, complain, complain
endlessy and more than a little bitterly about every possible detail
about Taiwan and the Chinese in general. Of course the Chinese
teachers were quite aware of this, and were furthermore quite
resentful. This complaining, however, is a prototypical symptom of
culture shock. People become separated from all the little signs,
signals and details particular to a culture tht has been their
psychological home throughout their lives, and they go through a phase
of mentally rejecting the "invading" culture. It is simple human nature.

SO if I have a concluding point, it would be that all schools wh hire
foreigners as teachers should gently make some materials about the
effects of culture shock available to newbie teachers, and all newbies
should be aware that in all probability their burnig desire to gripe
is merely a symptom of a mild, temporary  psychological problem --  a
psychological common cold, so to speak -- known as "culture shock."

Having said all that, I repeat that Westerners receive preferential
treatment in some quarters of the world.


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, John Hibbs <hibbs@b...>
wrote:
> Woo Joy, thank you very, very much for this contribution, below I
> have not snipped because it is worth re-reading.
>
> Can you imagine the resentment if you worked for an American in
> Chicago and they imported Chinese to do "your" job - paid them twice
> as much as you, gave them all the perks, and looked down their nose
> at you because of your skin color or the fact that your native
> language was not Mandarin? Especially after you observed that many of
> your Chinese counterparts were - partly or fully some combination of
> - loud, frivolous, drunk, whiny, culturally and politically ignorant,
> and a Fox News follower to boot.
>
> I hope the below is forward to other ESL lists along with my genuine
> belief that native English speakers who go abroad to teach are among
> the finest human beings on the planet. If there is a dichotomy to
> that belief and my statement above - well so be it. (Another part of
> my belief is that AFTER time abroad, working in situations as most
> EFL/ESL teachers do, they grow and mature and learn and become the
> kind of person that truly makes for a great world citizens - and a
> safer, saner planet.)
>
> My two cents
>
> John Hibbs
> http://www.bfranklin.edu/johnhibbs
>
> At 8:10 PM +0800 1/11/05, woo joy wrote:
> "woo joy" <joy_wulina@h...>
>
> >It seems that nobody is satisfied with their current situation. At
> >least in my university, the foreigh teachers are treated well, or
> >can I say, better than the Chinese staff.
> >
> >I am a Chinese assistant professor at a University. My pay is half
> >as much as my American colleagues. My workload is like eight hours
> >per week, and theirs twelve to fourteen. They are provided with
> >brand new two-bedroom apartment with all the furniture, computer,
> >and even kitch utensils. Everything is free, plus they provide a
> >maid to clean up your apartment everyday. While the Chinese staff
> >are only provided with shared dormitories, and the rent is like
> >300kuai a month. here is no such thing as free housing. You need to
> >buy the house through a very complicated selection procidure and you
> >pay full price, but just get half ownership. The foreigh teachers
> >get round trip tickets, travel stipend for winter break. When I went
> >with my American friend to the office to get her travel stipend, I
> >thought I was maltreated by the university, as I have been working
> >here for five years. They are never so considerate to us.
> >
> >Basically I'm working on research projects year round, and it's part
> >of my job assignment to publish papers. We have shorter vacations
> >than the foreign teachers and take more responsibiliies in a lot of
> >things like supervise different exams, other assignments from the
> >office, different meetings and we are closely wached by the academic
> >office.
> >
> >This is not meant to complain, just to offer the other side of the
> >picture. As far as I know, foreign teachers get the best treatment
> >from the school authority in the universities, compared to the
> >Chinese stsff.  There is no rosy picture of an easy job, for Chinese
> >or westerners. this is the job we choose, and there must be
> >something that we like.
> >

As a perhaps-imortant note to my previous post, I  personally would
define "newcomer" as anyone who has been in the land that is foreign
to them for less than, say -- eighteen months, give or take a few months.

Hi everyone.

I have been messing around with various ways of putting audio in blogs.
Many of you will be familiar with the audio blogs in LearningTimes
(especially Karen Garcia), and I have had some help from Jonathan along the
way.

If you'd like to see what I've done have a look at my experimental blog at
http://mikecogh.blogspot.com/ It's not a great blog by any means. I'm still
trying things out so don't expect dazzling content! But it does show what
can be done with audio.

The best tool for this IMHO is Instant Audio (http://instantaudio.com/) -
the one LT uses. At the moment they have a great deal where you can get
full access to the tool for US$1 till the end of January! if you continue
after that it costs around US$30/month. You can phone blog (there are
numbers in the US, UK, and Australia), or just record from your pc and
post. It's dead simple.

Jonathan has asked that if you decide to take up this offer that we go
through this link - http://instantaudio.com/specialinfo.asp?x=89968 This
tells the Instant Audio folks that the referral has come through
LearningTimes and they will be rewarded accordingly.

Give it a try - it's great. Well I think so. But you all know that I prefer
talking to typing! http://instantaudio.com/specialinfo.asp?x=89968

And if anyone else would like to contribute to the Wimba board about
Cutting Edge tools it's at http://tinyurl.com/5qsc2 Daf and Bee have
already added their thoughts......


Cheers,

- Michael.

Hello Michael,
Wonderful, loud and clear and thanks for the tip.

I have used Audblog (www.audblog.com) to record my welcome message on
http://beeonline2.blogspot.com. It was very easy and I just paid for the
call to the States. (first recording was for free). Teresa has used
Handybits (free) very successfully (www.handybits.com) with her  kids and
you can also use Audacity (www.audacity.com) to create sound files and embed
them in your blog.

My two cents of real before I drive down to the coast on a rainy day.
Warm regards from Brazil,
Bee




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>

Dear Colleague

Wishing all SANTEC members the best for 2005!

I would like to bring an excellent conference re
higher education in 2005 to your attention that includes a strong
educational technology and elearning stream.

HERDSA 2005: Higher Education in a Changing World

Organised by the Higher Education Research and Development
Society of Australasia

http://www.herdsa.org.au/2005/

Sydney, Australia
3-6 July 2005

Paper/abstract deadline is 15th Feb

Kind regards

Philip
*******************
Dr Philip Uys
Chair: SANTEC

Greetings Everyone!

Today is my Wednesday (January 12 to be more exact...) and I want to report to
you about another face to face "webhead encounter" I am so fortunate to have had
last Monday. With great delight I met Rita Zeinstejer who was in Connecticut
from Argentina visiting her family and who is about to travel to Lisboa,
Portugal on Friday and will be greeted by Tereza.

What a four hour visit!  Rita met me in New Haven, which is about two hours
south from me.  We walked through Yale University talking in Spanish about life,
philosophy, love, work, webheads, family, Japan…. non-stop… multitasking of
course while we looked at shops, museums, and had a wonderful lunch.  Anyone who
looked would hear about our encounter.  Of course we took pictures!  BUT, both
our cameras are that old kind you have to wait to finish the film before you
have the pictures developed….  so it might take a while to show you.

You could imagine, however two female webheads with wide smiles talking about
what it means to belong to this group and thinking and knowing how amazing it is
to meet, care and belong.

Way to go!

Cheers,

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Hi, Karen!

It sure sounds like you and Rita had a wonderful time!

I can't wait for Friday late morning when I will be meeting Rita f2f at
Lisbon airport. I will leave them at the hotel and then i will pick them up
for dinner.

Thanks for the wornderful report. Looking forward to the photos!

Hugs,

Teresa