http://www.mitopolis.de/bvjwo/57zbdxofec3iv3.z4jrod?u4e1sukg3tcxt8vh5uy

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Don't click on that link!

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Veronica Baig <one_blue_jay@...>
wrote:
>
> http://www.mitopolis.de/bvjwo/57zbdxofec3iv3.z4jrod?u4e1sukg3tcxt8vh5uy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thank you all,

I really appreciate your immediate help; and now it's time to organize all
links and finalize the syllabus.

Best wishes,

--
Dr. Sedat Akayoğlu
http://akayoglu_s.web.ibu.edu.tr
Abant İzzet Baysal University
Faculty of Education
Department of Foreign Language Education
English Language Teaching Program
Bolu



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Bauer-Ramazani, Christine <
cbauer-ramazani@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear Sedat (Dr. Akayoglu! It sounds so cool!),
> I have been teaching a CALL course for graduate students since
> 1998—face-to-face and online. The most current version is a 5-week course
> in the summer and it’s all online. You can see the syllabus in the link
> under my signature. Next spring I will be teaching it as a 15-week course
> again but will be making substantial changes to it since I last ran it in
> 2007.
>
> Let me know if I can help you further, Sedat, and good luck.
>
> Christine
> [Description: Description: Description: Description: smc_logo_email]
> Christine Bauer-Ramazani
> 2009-10 Chair, CALL-IS of TESOL
> Instructor, Applied Linguistics Department
> Saint Michael's College phone: 802-654-2642
> One Winooski Park fax: 802-654-2595
> Colchester, VT 05439-0253
> web site: academics.smcvt.edu/cbauer-ramazani/
> http://academics.smcvt.edu/cbauer-ramazani/>
> online CALL course:
> academics.smcvt.edu/cbauer-ramazani/gsl520_online/demo/CALL_Online_demo.htm
>
http://academics.smcvt.edu/cbauer-ramazani/gsl520_online/demo/CALL_Online_demo.h\
tm>
>
> “Das Leben hinterlässt kleine Kratzer, aber es stört uns nicht beim
> Leuchten!”
>
>
> From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sedat Akayoglu
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:10 AM
> To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] CALL Course Syllabus
>
>
>
> Dear Barbara,
>
> Thank you for your quick reply. Actually, this is not a course for
> teaching
> English but this is a course for teaching how to use technology in
> language
> classes and my students are pre-service teachers of English. As the
> objective of the course is to teach how to use technological tools (blogs,
> wikis, podcasts, etc.) in language classes, I have to concentrate on the
> tools, not the language. I can categorize the tools according to the
> skills, but we always tell students not to teach the skills separately;
> they should be integrated. Because of this reason, this might be confusing
> for the students.
>
> Thank you Barbara for your interest again,
>
> --
> Dr. Sedat Akayoğlu
> http://akayoglu_s.web.ibu.edu.tr
> Abant İzzet Baysal University
> Faculty of Education
> Department of Foreign Language Education
> English Language Teaching Program
> Bolu
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Barbara Dieu beeonline@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Sedat,
> >
> > Welcome back!
> >
> > It's true that the pace of change in the techno world is staggering and
> > this is why I think you should not focus on the tools themselves but on
> the
> > language skills your students will need to have by the end of the
> course.
> > The tools will follow from there, as their function is to help perform
> > these actions and not an object of study in itself. As Alan Kay would
> > say:"the music is not in the piano".
> >
> > If you want tools matched to skills, Edorigami is a good place to start
> > http://edorigami.wikispaces.com/#Welcome to the 21st Century-Going Solo
> > They are not language specific but it can help.
> >
> > Best regards from Brazil,
> > B.
> >
> > --
> > Barbara Dieu
> > http://barbaradieu.com
> > http://beespace.net
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from its
blog post yesterday
http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous

That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.

Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
clones for standalone chat.

The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:

<iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="450"  width="950" src="
http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9"></iframe>

Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones

Running Etherpad v1.1
publishwith.me
piratepad.net
doc.etherpad.org
edupad.ch
shamblespad.com
vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000

Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
ietherpad.com
etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
etherpad.mit.edu
typewith.me
openetherpad.org
pad.telecomix.org
piratenpad.de
titanpad.com
meetingwords.com
sync.in
kompisen.se
etherpad.netluchs.de
netpad.com.br
ethercodes.com
epad.recit.org
piratepad.nl
pad.planka.nu



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs <skipper@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
> was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
> What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
> continuance couldn't be found.
>
> Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
> GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
> capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
> French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
> text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
> audio conference.
>
> And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
> remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
>
> (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
>
> Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
> especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
> rooms that you can recommend.
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>



--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Welcome to new Webheads participants.  I expect we'll get a number of new
members from the latest rendition of BaW which ends today.

For Webheads, I'd like to welcome our newest members:

    - Flaviaruh who 'd like to join this great group of world teachers,
    after attending my 1st BAW
    - Nora Brussolo, also from BaW an ESL Teacher from Argentina.
    - A.Gwandi who teaches EFL at the Foundation Campus at Coventry
    University

To BaW members intending to join us as well, be sure and leave a note that
will identify you as someone with a valid interest in our group.

Here is an example of what I see when I need to approve members.
http://screencast.com/t/J4XrInrqw

The second person listed here clearly identified herself as being a
teacher, and it was easy to see I should approve her in this group.

The first one is not known to me and left a message "thank you for the
invitation".  It is common for spammers to leave such messages, that anyone
could write and submit to any group, that any moderator might be fooled
into approving.  Once in, the group starts receiving spam, and the
moderator has to remove the member.

So, I won't approve the first request unless someone here can vouch for him
or her.  Does anyone know this person and should I approve?

And when requesting to join our group, please leave a message that will
indicate that you know something about the group you are joining.

best, and hope everyone enjoyed EVO

--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


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Hello here!

I've taken a look at the screenshot, Vance, and figured out that the name
of Kabanova is known name. Nadezhda Kabanova is from St.Petersburg, Russia,
she is a WorldCALL 2013 awardee. I invited her to join our fantastic
Webheads community. She will definitely send her introduction message as
soon as she is approved, I guess.

Thank you, Vance.

With warmest regards,
Nina Lyulkun

**

*Nina A.Lyulkun*

Khmelnitskiy National University <http://www.khnu.km.ua/root/default.htm>

Ukraine

Mobile: (+38)067 9334574
[image: Blogger] <http://tesol-ua.blogspot.com/> [image:
Facebook]<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=572760950> [image:
Google Plus] <https://plus.google.com/117218005724095778971> [image:
Twitter] <http://twitter.com/#%21/nagora> [image:
VKontakte]<http://vkontakte.ru/id17326732>
[image: Skype] nagora60



On 16 February 2013 11:47, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Welcome to new Webheads participants. I expect we'll get a number of new
> members from the latest rendition of BaW which ends today.
>
> For Webheads, I'd like to welcome our newest members:
>
> Here is an example of what I see when I need to approve members.
> http://screencast.com/t/J4XrInrqw
>
> The second person listed here clearly identified herself as being a
> teacher, and it was easy to see I should approve her in this group.
>
> The first one is not known to me and left a message "thank you for the
> invitation". It is common for spammers to leave such messages, that anyone
> could write and submit to any group, that any moderator might be fooled
> into approving. Once in, the group starts receiving spam, and the
> moderator has to remove the member.
>
> So, I won't approve the first request unless someone here can vouch for him
> or her. Does anyone know this person and should I approve?
>
> And when requesting to join our group, please leave a message that will
> indicate that you know something about the group you are joining.
>
> best, and hope everyone enjoyed EVO
>
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

She is approved, and welcome to Nadezhda Kabanova from St.Petersburg,
Russia,

Vance


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM, nina.lyulkun@... <
nina.lyulkun@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hello here!
>
> I've taken a look at the screenshot, Vance, and figured out that the name
> of Kabanova is known name. Nadezhda Kabanova is from St.Petersburg, Russia,
> she is a WorldCALL 2013 awardee. I invited her to join our fantastic
> Webheads community. She will definitely send her introduction message as
> soon as she is approved
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi folks, after apologies for all the redundant email effluvia,

Sunday is officially the day after the end of EVO and there are a number of
events this Sunday, noted at this URL
http://learning2gether.pbworks.com/w/page/32206114/volunteersneeded#Nextupcoming\
events

We start at 13:00 GMT with a MultiMOOC endgame event at which those present
can discuss the interesting results in the petri dishes from experiments in
the MultiMOOC session described here:

    -
   
http://multiliteracies.posterous.com/checking-the-petri-dishes-end-game-analysis\
-f
    - and
   
http://multiliteracies.posterous.com/follow-up-on-checking-the-petri-dishes-end-\
ga

This will take place in a streamed Hangout.  You can find more information
at the URL above on

    - when that is where you are,
    - how to get into the hangout itself,
    - or how you can just sit back and watch / listen to the stream from the
    hangout without doing anything more than visiting
    http://webheadsinaction.org/live in your browser.

You can also find out at
http://learning2gether.pbworks.com/w/page/32206114/volunteersneeded#Nextupcoming\
events
how to take part in two events taking place in Elluminate at 14:00 and
17:00 GMT, wrap-ups for two other EVO sessions.

Plus there is information on accessing the following events also scheduled
for this Sunday
at 1400 GMT Nellie Deutsch - Teaching in a Live Online Class: Breakout Rooms
an Integrating Technology 4 Active Lifelong Learning event
http://www.wiziq.com/class/info.aspx?5mA7G8fKaxlTc1d9gN7y0WmYLsOn83kOH4ewM3GQpB9\
1qWV%2fvYX5RUGKz1YKBRpA8Q7S0GBWnSqE3gnxtCEQX5OiL73w%2bxXEzEEX25bXtKcAmPq%2f5PMyT\
G%2bqGYOr15%2fY


and at 1500 GMT Kristina Smith gives an IATEFL Webinar: Curation tools for
students and teachers
http://ltsig.org.uk/events/13-future-events/264-17213-webinar-curation-tools-for\
-students-and-teachers.html

So there is something on from 1300 GMT to 1800 GMT, so hope to see you at
one or more of these events.

--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear colleagues,
Thank you very much for approving me. I am a university teacher from
Saint-Petersburg, Russia. I've been interested in e-learning since 2005, CALL in
particular. Recently I have won a scholarship for participating in WorldCALL4
:-)
Sorry if I sounded like a spammer, but I simply don't like to write long
messages, just to say hello, cause I'm sure all the members are too  busy to
read complicated messages from complete strangers ;-)
I really hope to become a true Webhead soon))))
Cheers,
Nadezhda
--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
wrote:
>
> She is approved, and welcome to Nadezhda Kabanova from St.Petersburg,
> Russia,
>
> Vance
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM, nina.lyulkun@... <
> nina.lyulkun@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hello here!
> >
> > I've taken a look at the screenshot, Vance, and figured out that the name
> > of Kabanova is known name. Nadezhda Kabanova is from St.Petersburg, Russia,
> > she is a WorldCALL 2013 awardee. I invited her to join our fantastic
> > Webheads community. She will definitely send her introduction message as
> > soon as she is approved
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Vance,

That's bad news that Posterous is shutting down. Will you be able to move all
the archived sessions from there to another hosting site?  When something like
this happens it not only is a pain to the host, but it breaks all links from
other sites to presentations that had been hosted on that site.

This is one of the weakness of the Internet as a library of information and
ideas. As hosting sites go out of business all of the other libraries that had
pointed to those sites lose their links. Most will probably never find the new
site and reconnect.

A case in point is that last summer Public Private Ventures, a research group
that had produce a large number of reports related to poverty, youth
development, etc. closed its doors. While it moved is archive to another site, I
have not been able to go back through all of the articles I've written that had
pointed to the original site nor do I suspect most others have either.

I'll look forward to an update from you as you figure out your solution.

Dan Bassill


-----Original Message-----
>From: Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2013 3:22 AM
>To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>
>Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from its
>blog post yesterday
>http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
>
>That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
>porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
>
>Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
>clones for standalone chat.
>
>The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:
>
><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="450"  width="950" src="
>http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9"></iframe>
>
>Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
>http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones
>
>Running Etherpad v1.1
>publishwith.me
>piratepad.net
>doc.etherpad.org
>edupad.ch
>shamblespad.com
>vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000
>
>Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
>ietherpad.com
>etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
>etherpad.mit.edu
>typewith.me
>openetherpad.org
>pad.telecomix.org
>piratenpad.de
>titanpad.com
>meetingwords.com
>sync.in
>kompisen.se
>etherpad.netluchs.de
>netpad.com.br
>ethercodes.com
>epad.recit.org
>piratepad.nl
>pad.planka.nu
>
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs <skipper@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
>> was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
>> What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
>> continuance couldn't be found.
>>
>> Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
>> GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
>> capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
>> French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
>> text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
>> audio conference.
>>
>> And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
>> remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
>>
>> (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
>>
>> Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
>> especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
>> rooms that you can recommend.
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Vance Stevens
>http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
>http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text from
reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-) http://webheads.infoYahoo!
Groups Links
>
>
>

Yep, that's exactly the situation,

Vance


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Bassill
<tutormentor2@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Vance,
>
> That's bad news that Posterous is shutting down. Will you be able to move
> all the archived sessions from there to another hosting site? When
> something like this happens it not only is a pain to the host, but it
> breaks all links from other sites to presentations that had been hosted on
> that site.
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

On a separate note, we’ve had some issues with live document collaboration
applications in terms of their not being accessible to blind students using
screen readers. Google docs, Office 365, dropbox, box.net, etc. are all
inaccessible. Wikis are fine, but not live. We’re looking into etherpad’s
accessibility, but if you know of other options out there….

Robert

From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Bassill
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:47 AM
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms



Vance,

That's bad news that Posterous is shutting down. Will you be able to move all
the archived sessions from there to another hosting site? When something like
this happens it not only is a pain to the host, but it breaks all links from
other sites to presentations that had been hosted on that site.

This is one of the weakness of the Internet as a library of information and
ideas. As hosting sites go out of business all of the other libraries that had
pointed to those sites lose their links. Most will probably never find the new
site and reconnect.

A case in point is that last summer Public Private Ventures, a research group
that had produce a large number of reports related to poverty, youth
development, etc. closed its doors. While it moved is archive to another site, I
have not been able to go back through all of the articles I've written that had
pointed to the original site nor do I suspect most others have either.

I'll look forward to an update from you as you figure out your solution.

Dan Bassill

-----Original Message-----
>From: Vance Stevens vancestev@...<mailto:vancestev%40gmail.com>>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2013 3:22 AM
>To:
evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com<mailto:evonline2002_webheads%40yahoogroups\
.com>
>Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>
>Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from its
>blog post yesterday
>http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
>
>That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
>porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
>
>Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
>clones for standalone chat.
>
>The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:
>
>http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9">
>
>Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
>http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones
>
>Running Etherpad v1.1
>publishwith.me
>piratepad.net
>doc.etherpad.org
>edupad.ch
>shamblespad.com
>vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000
>
>Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
>ietherpad.com
>etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
>etherpad.mit.edu
>typewith.me
>openetherpad.org
>pad.telecomix.org
>piratenpad.de
>titanpad.com
>meetingwords.com
>sync.in
>kompisen.se
>etherpad.netluchs.de
>netpad.com.br
>ethercodes.com
>epad.recit.org
>piratepad.nl
>pad.planka.nu
>
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs
skipper@...<mailto:skipper%40bfranklin.edu>> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
>> was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
>> What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
>> continuance couldn't be found.
>>
>> Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
>> GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
>> capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
>> French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
>> text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
>> audio conference.
>>
>> And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
>> remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
>>
>> (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
>>
>> Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
>> especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
>> rooms that you can recommend.
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Vance Stevens
>http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
>http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text from
reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-) http://webheads.infoYahoo!
Groups Links
>
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dan, I  suspect there are many thousands -- tens of thousands? - of
(Web-based) networks that provide huge amounts of value to those
within same. My bet is the great bulk of them are possible as a
result of 'labor of love'.  We all know how extraordinary Vance is.
We also know that that within the "inner circles" of the Webheads
Tribe are about a dozen - maybe two dozen? - individuals who help to
hold the entire structure together.

How is it possible to put up solid metrics to validate the incredible
value of Webheads? Or those like Tutor Mentor Connection? Or the
value of Tapped In?  We can't. Which is also why it is so damnably
hard to find funding.

I guess we just have to accept that with the rich meals served at the
Webheads many, many tables, there come also some sour grapes.  For
me, the loss of Tapped In is a very sour gulp.

At 12:43 PM -0600 2/15/13, Daniel Bassill wrote:
>John, I was not aware that Tapped In folded. I fear that the role of
>intermediaries, people/organizations that bring others together,
>share knowledge, etc. are very difficult to fund because it's
>difficult to define value and impact.
>
>Webheads is fortunate to have Vance and a few others who have
>consistently volunteered time and talent to bring this group
>together. If paid staff were in that role, would funds be available
>and would the network exist?
>
>Dan Bassill
>Tutor/Mentor Connection
>Tutor/Mentor Institute, LLC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Hibbs <skipper@...>
>>Sent: Feb 15, 2013 12:38 PM
>>To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>>
>>Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
>>was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
>>What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
>>continuance couldn't be found.
>>
>>Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
>>GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
>>capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
>>French or whatever.  I also liked the addition of url's inside the
>>text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
>>audio conference.
>>
>>And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
>>remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
>>
>>(I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
>>
>>Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
>>especially interested in learning about  "stand alone" text chat
>>rooms that you can recommend.
>>
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous
>>text from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
>>http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous
>text from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
>http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

There are three ways you can get etherpads, or any text doc, to read to
you.  One is you can blog it and then get Odiogo to render your blog
audible.  You can convert it to PDF and get your PDF reader to read it to
you (in Adobe it's under the view menu).  Or you can look into wiki to
speech (google it and see what you can find).

If you get the latter working, get back to us and augment our knowledge.

Vance


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Squires, Robert <robert.squires@...
> wrote:

> **
>
>
> On a separate note, we�ve had some issues with live document collaboration
> applications in terms of their not being accessible to blind students using
> screen readers. Google docs, Office 365, dropbox, box.net, etc. are all
> inaccessible. Wikis are fine, but not live. We�re looking into etherpad�s
> accessibility, but if you know of other options out there�.
>
> Robert
>
> From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Bassill
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:47 AM
> To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>
>
>
> Vance,
>
> That's bad news that Posterous is shutting down. Will you be able to move
> all the archived sessions from there to another hosting site? When
> something like this happens it not only is a pain to the host, but it
> breaks all links from other sites to presentations that had been hosted on
> that site.
>
> This is one of the weakness of the Internet as a library of information
> and ideas. As hosting sites go out of business all of the other libraries
> that had pointed to those sites lose their links. Most will probably never
> find the new site and reconnect.
>
> A case in point is that last summer Public Private Ventures, a research
> group that had produce a large number of reports related to poverty, youth
> development, etc. closed its doors. While it moved is archive to another
> site, I have not been able to go back through all of the articles I've
> written that had pointed to the original site nor do I suspect most others
> have either.
>
> I'll look forward to an update from you as you figure out your solution.
>
> Dan Bassill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Vance Stevens vancestev@...>
> >Sent: Feb 16, 2013 3:22 AM
> >To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
> >
> >Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from
> its
> >blog post yesterday
> >http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
> >
> >That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
> >porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
> >
> >Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
> >clones for standalone chat.
> >
> >The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:
> >
> >http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9">
> >
> >Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
> >
> http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones
> >
> >Running Etherpad v1.1
> >publishwith.me
> >piratepad.net
> >doc.etherpad.org
> >edupad.ch
> >shamblespad.com
> >vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000
> >
> >Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
> >ietherpad.com
> >etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
> >etherpad.mit.edu
> >typewith.me
> >openetherpad.org
> >pad.telecomix.org
> >piratenpad.de
> >titanpad.com
> >meetingwords.com
> >sync.in
> >kompisen.se
> >etherpad.netluchs.de
> >netpad.com.br
> >ethercodes.com
> >epad.recit.org
> >piratepad.nl
> >pad.planka.nu
> >
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs skipper@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
> >> was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
> >> What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
> >> continuance couldn't be found.
> >>
> >> Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
> >> GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
> >> capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
> >> French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
> >> text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
> >> audio conference.
> >>
> >> And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
> >> remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
> >>
> >> (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
> >>
> >> Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
> >> especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
> >> rooms that you can recommend.
> >>
> >> Thanks!!!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Vance Stevens
> >http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> >http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
> from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
> http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am seriously bummed out about Posterous! Thanks for alerting us, Vance. I've
already requested backup for about 6 Posterous sites. The one I've been building
most recently is my ePortfolio for the EVO session "Neuroscience in Education."
I'm not finished with that one, so will wait until I'm done to request a backup.

These free tools have been so great, but when they shut down, it's sad and
inconvenient and generally upsetting. What's a webhead to do? Keep looking for
new sites, I suppose. And back everything up.

Nina

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
wrote:
>
> Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from its
> blog post yesterday
> http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
>
> That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
> porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.

Hi everyone.

It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
most cases,

1) it will no longer be free.
2) it will close down.

Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost) for
all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
not for Posterous :(

It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.

It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
chains monopolise the market.

And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
value and want to keep

- Michael

------ Original Message ------
From: "Nina Liakos" <nina.liakos@...>
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 17/02/2013 12:38:14 PM
Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous
>
>I am seriously bummed out about Posterous! Thanks for alerting us,
>Vance. I've already requested backup for about 6 Posterous sites. The
>one I've been building most recently is my ePortfolio for the EVO
>session "Neuroscience in Education." I'm not finished with that one, so
>will wait until I'm done to request a backup.
>
>These free tools have been so great, but when they shut down, it's sad
>and inconvenient and generally upsetting. What's a webhead to do? Keep
>looking for new sites, I suppose. And back everything up.
>
>Nina
>
>--- In mailto:evonline2002_webheads%40yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens
>wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous
>from its
> > blog post yesterday
> > http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
> >
> > That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
> > porting over existing sites such as
>http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Vance, I fear  we are operating on different wave-lengths.

The text chat room that I want to lock down on is
one that would "operate" side-by-side with
Webinar and/or phone conference audio voices.
Dead simple to log into, navigate, and as
commonly used thousands of times.  I like the
ones where when you type a URL, they are
hype-linkable; I like those that allow you to
type in one language but for those who choose an
alternate language the "read" (and type) in that.

If you or other Webheads can EASILY point me to
such platforms, that would be splendid.

I shall see what Google comes up with.  This is NOT urgent.

But all guidance is of course appreciated.


At 1:47 AM +0400 2/17/13, Vance Stevens wrote:
>There are three ways you can get etherpads, or any text doc, to read to
>you.  One is you can blog it and then get Odiogo to render your blog
>audible.  You can convert it to PDF and get your PDF reader to read it to
>you (in Adobe it's under the view menu).  Or you can look into wiki to
>speech (google it and see what you can find).
>
>If you get the latter working, get back to us and augment our knowledge.
>
>Vance
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Squires, Robert <robert.squires@...
>>  wrote:
>
>>  **
>>
>>
>>  On a separate note, we�ve had some issues with live document collaboration
>>  applications in terms of their not being accessible to blind students using
>>  screen readers. Google docs, Office 365, dropbox, box.net, etc. are all
>>  inaccessible. Wikis are fine, but not live. We�re looking into etherpad�s
>>  accessibility, but if you know of other options out there�.
>>
>>  Robert
>>
>>  From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>>  evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Bassill
>>  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:47 AM
>>  To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>>
>>
>>
>>  Vance,
>>
>>  That's bad news that Posterous is shutting down. Will you be able to move
>>  all the archived sessions from there to another hosting site? When
>>  something like this happens it not only is a pain to the host, but it
>>  breaks all links from other sites to presentations that had been hosted on
>>  that site.
>>
>>  This is one of the weakness of the Internet as a library of information
>>  and ideas. As hosting sites go out of business all of the other libraries
>>  that had pointed to those sites lose their links. Most will probably never
>>  find the new site and reconnect.
>>
>>  A case in point is that last summer Public Private Ventures, a research
>>  group that had produce a large number of reports related to poverty, youth
>>  development, etc. closed its doors. While it moved is archive to another
>  > site, I have not been able to go back through all of the articles I've
>>  written that had pointed to the original site nor do I suspect most others
>>  have either.
>>
>>  I'll look forward to an update from you as you figure out your solution.
>>
>>  Dan Bassill
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  >From: Vance Stevens vancestev@...>
>>  >Sent: Feb 16, 2013 3:22 AM
>>  >To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>>  >Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Text Chat Rooms
>>  >
>>  >Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from
>>  its
>>  >blog post yesterday
>>  >http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
>>  >
>>  >That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
>>  >porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
>>  >
>>  >Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
>>  >clones for standalone chat.
>>  >
>>  >The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:
>>  >
>>  >http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9">
>>  >
>>  >Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
>>  >
>>  http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones
>>  >
>>  >Running Etherpad v1.1
>>  >publishwith.me
>>  >piratepad.net
>>  >doc.etherpad.org
>>  >edupad.ch
>>  >shamblespad.com
>>  >vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000
>  > >
>>  >Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
>>  >ietherpad.com
>>  >etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
>>  >etherpad.mit.edu
>>  >typewith.me
>>  >openetherpad.org
>>  >pad.telecomix.org
>>  >piratenpad.de
>>  >titanpad.com
>>  >meetingwords.com
>>  >sync.in
>>  >kompisen.se
>>  >etherpad.netluchs.de
>>  >netpad.com.br
>>  >ethercodes.com
>>  >epad.recit.org
>>  >piratepad.nl
>>  >pad.planka.nu
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs skipper@...>
>>  wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> **
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
>>  >> was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
>>  >> What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
>>  >> continuance couldn't be found.
>>  >>
>>  >> Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
>>  >> GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
>>  >> capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
>>  >> French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
>>  >> text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
>>  >> audio conference.
>>  >>
>>  >> And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
>>  >> remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
>>  >>
>>  >> (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
>>  >>
>>  >> Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
>>  >> especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
>>  >> rooms that you can recommend.
>>  >>
>>  >> Thanks!!!
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >--
>>  >Vance Stevens
>>  >http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
>>  >http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >------------------------------------
>>  >
>>  >When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
>>  from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
>>  http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Vance Stevens
>http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
>http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>When replying to postings, please delete this
>footer and extraneous text from reply BUT retain
>info to help retain context :-)
>http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I see that bablewithme is no longer in business.

As anyone dealt with
http://www.chatzy.com/

One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
there was enough income to stay afloat.

As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
a fee-for-service basis?  (So long as the provider doesn't keep
offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
costs would be relatively small.

It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
their Tribe for continuing the service?

At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>
>It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
>most cases,
>
>1) it will no longer be free.
>2) it will close down.
>
>Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost) for
>all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
>not for Posterous :(
>
>It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
>of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
>time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
>getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
>anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
>
>It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
>it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
>they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
>chains monopolise the market.
>
>And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
>value and want to keep

Hello Sedat,

I am teaching the a course, under Educational Technology name, for now to senior
applied Linguistics students, who will graduate as teachers of English language.
The syllabub is uploaded in our closed LMS, but  I will email  you the link to
my ss e-portfolios and a copy on the syllabus.

Btw, be prepared to keep yourself constantly updated with all the new tech tools
around. You will find how technology advances in a scary way. The course
objectives are always the same, but the content is changing based on your
digital natives students.


I started teaching this course in 2010, and believe me, my students keep on 
impressing  you of how "digitalish" they have become each term. I keep
changing/modifying/adapting/adding to the content all the time. In 2010, for
example, I used to give an introductory class about what is twitter and  how to
use it  in teaching/learning, with additional lab session to practice/do the
required tasks. Now, all of them are tweeting on daily basis (some with more
than 12,000 tweets!!!) They are the ones who are teaching me about the use of
hashtags and how they create lists. I had to skip the introduction class! I also
had to include a section of digital curation (which you won't find in the
syllabus) and I introduced to Scoop.it.

Another point to remember is the secletion of the platform you would like them
to use.For the final project, I ask them to  create a wiki on wikispaces for
English class/course.Now, wikispaces is not free to view anymore. I had to ask
them to invite me to join each wiki to be able to grade their projects.  As a
result, I added a final group presentation to the rubric because we coudn't
share the work by viewing it on their e-portfolio page. Now,  I am using
pbworks for both the class e-portfolios and for the final projects.

Best of luck,
Hala

--- On Fri, 2/15/13, Sedat Akayoglu <sakayoglu@...> wrote:

From: Sedat Akayoglu <sakayoglu@...>
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] CALL Course Syllabus
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 15, 2013, 2:10 PM
















 









       Dear Barbara,



Thank you for your quick reply. Actually, this is not a course for teaching

English but this is a course for teaching how to use technology in language

classes and my students are pre-service teachers of English. As the

objective of the course is to teach how to use technological tools (blogs,

wikis, podcasts, etc.) in language classes, I have to concentrate on the

tools, not the language. I can categorize the tools according to the

skills, but we always tell students not to teach the skills separately;

they should be integrated. Because of this reason, this might be confusing

for the students.



Thank you Barbara for your interest again,



--

Dr. Sedat Akayoğlu

http://akayoglu_s.web.ibu.edu.tr

Abant İzzet Baysal University

Faculty of Education

Department of Foreign Language Education

English Language Teaching Program

Bolu



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Barbara Dieu beeonline@...> wrote:



> **

>

>

> Hi Sedat,

>

> Welcome back!

>

> It's true that the pace of change in the techno world is staggering and

> this is why I think you should not focus on the tools themselves but on the

> language skills your students will need to have by the end of the course.

> The tools will follow from there, as their function is to help perform

> these actions and not an object of study in itself. As Alan Kay would

> say:"the music is not in the piano".

>

> If you want tools matched to skills, Edorigami is a good place to start

> http://edorigami.wikispaces.com/#Welcome to the 21st Century-Going Solo

> They are not language specific but it can help.

>

> Best regards from Brazil,

> B.

>

> --

> Barbara Dieu

> http://barbaradieu.com

> http://beespace.net

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dearest Barbra,

I cannot agree more!

After the students take the CALLI course with me, I meet them again in the
second term senior. I teach TEFL course, research methodology and educational
psychology. The students find themselves using Google docs to share with me
their research, sending me voice messages using vicaroo, using wordle  in their
practicum when  teaching vocabulary, or creating an interactive PPT when
adapting a student-centered approach in their classes.

I keep reminding my students that we are only learning the usage of  tools
which will help them, as teachers, to achieve the syllabus goals or a lesson's
objectives. One of the best readings we use is Stephan Bax 'normalisation'. As
part of an assignment, I ask them to reflect, using blogs, on the reading and
point out whether ' Bax normailsiation can  be achieved in the Saudi context,
what are challenges, possibilities, etc.

Best regards from the Saudi Kingdom!:-))

--- On Fri, 2/15/13, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:

From: Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...>
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] CALL Course Syllabus
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 15, 2013, 12:01 PM
















 









       Hi Sedat,



Welcome back!



It's true that the pace of change in the techno world is staggering and

this is why I think you should not focus on the tools themselves but on the

language skills your students will need to have by the end of the course.

The tools will follow from there, as their function is to help perform

these actions and not an object of study in itself.  As Alan Kay would

say:"the music is not in the piano".



If you want tools matched to skills, Edorigami is a good place to start

http://edorigami.wikispaces.com/#Welcome to the 21st Century-Going Solo

They are not language specific but it can help.



Best regards from Brazil,

B.



--

Barbara Dieu

http://barbaradieu.com

http://beespace.net



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Oi Carla,

Tudo certo para amanh�? Talvez eu me atrase uns 10 minutos para montar tudo para
entrar no Skype. Que tal a gente marcar a Skype Conference para as 11:30?

Thanks a million,
Cintia :-)


________________________________
  From: Carla arena <carlaarena@...>
To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
<evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from the
Brazilian Amazon

Great, Cintia! It will be a pleasure!

Carla


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Cintia Costa <cintiabentes@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear Carla,
>
> Thanks a million! They will love to listen to you again (they listened to
> you in the CD of the book How to teach English with technology)! I will
> contact you soon!
>
> Hugs from the Amazon,
> Cintia :-)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carla arena carlaarena@...>
> To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from
> the Brazilian Amazon
>
>
>
> Dear Cintia,
>
> I am in Brasilia, and if you need any help, or to Skype with your students,
> I'd be more than glad to do it.
> my skype id is carlaarena
>
> Cheers from Brasilia,
> Carla Arena
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Maria Bossa mariabossa1@...
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi dear Cintia
> > I'm Maria from Cordoba, Argentina. It's great to know what you are doing
> > and you can count on me for any help. I worked with Ayat (my dear friend
> > and colleague from Egypt) in Facebook and Skype. I've also worked with
> > Edmodo plus some other tools like Photopeach, MakeBelief, ToyStory
> creator,
> > Xtranormal among others with my students.
> > Feel free to contact me here by mail or by Skype. My Skype ID is
> > maria.bossa1
> > Hope to listen from you soon,Best regards from neighboring ArgentinaMaria
> > :)
> >
> > Smiles, Maria
> >
> > To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> > From: cintiabentes@...
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:31:16 -0800
> > Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from the
> > Brazilian Amazon
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Webheads,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings from the Brazilian Amazon rainforest!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am currently teaching a course called "The use of technologies to teach
> > foreign languages" in the undergraduate course of Teaching English as a
> > Foreign Language at Universidade Federal do Par�, in the Brazilian Amazon
> > region. My students have been reading about CALL and about projects using
> > Blogs, Podcasts, Skype, and others. They have also read a few chapters of
> > the book "How to teach English with technology", by Dudeney and Hockly,
> and
> > listened to some teachers in the CD that accompanies the book. They have
> > really enjoyed learning about those teachers' experiences.
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning, they asked me if it would be possible for them to have
> Skype
> > conferences with teachers that have experience working with projects
> using
> > technology. Our classes are on Mondays and Wednesdays, from 11:10 am to
> > 12:50 pm (BRT minus 1 hour).
> >
> >
> >
> > Would any of you be willing and available to share and discuss your
> > experiences for about 15 to 20 minutes?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cintia Costa
> >
> > Universidade Federal do Par�
> >
> >
> >
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Sorry, Webheads.

This message was supposed to be sent only to Carla Arena.

Sorry again,
Cintia


________________________________
  From: Cintia Costa <cintiabentes@...>
To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
<evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from the
Brazilian Amazon


Oi Carla,

Tudo certo para amanh�? Talvez eu me atrase uns 10 minutos para montar tudo para
entrar no Skype. Que tal a gente marcar a Skype Conference para as 11:30?

Thanks a million,
Cintia :-)


________________________________
  From: Carla arena <carlaarena@...>
To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
<evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from the
Brazilian Amazon

Great, Cintia! It will be a pleasure!

Carla


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Cintia Costa <cintiabentes@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear Carla,
>
> Thanks a million! They will love to listen to you again (they listened to
> you in the CD of the book How to teach English with technology)! I will
> contact you soon!
>
> Hugs from the Amazon,
> Cintia :-)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carla arena carlaarena@...>
> To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from
> the Brazilian Amazon
>
>
>
> Dear Cintia,
>
> I am in Brasilia, and if you need any help, or to Skype with your students,
> I'd be more than glad to do it.
> my skype id is carlaarena
>
> Cheers from Brasilia,
> Carla Arena
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Maria Bossa mariabossa1@...
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi dear Cintia
> > I'm Maria from Cordoba, Argentina. It's great to know what you are doing
> > and you can count on me for any help. I worked with Ayat (my dear friend
> > and colleague from Egypt) in
  Facebook and Skype. I've also worked with
> > Edmodo plus some other tools like Photopeach, MakeBelief, ToyStory
> creator,
> > Xtranormal among others with my students.
> > Feel free to contact me here by mail or by Skype. My Skype ID is
> > maria.bossa1
> > Hope to listen from you soon,Best regards from neighboring ArgentinaMaria
> > :)
> >
> > Smiles, Maria
> >
> > To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> > From: cintiabentes@...
> > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:31:16 -0800
> > Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from the
> > Brazilian Amazon
> >
> >
> >
>
  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Webheads,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings from the Brazilian Amazon rainforest!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am currently teaching a course called "The use of technologies to teach
> > foreign languages" in the undergraduate course of Teaching English as a
> > Foreign Language at Universidade Federal do Par�, in the Brazilian Amazon
> > region. My students have been reading about CALL and about projects using
> > Blogs, Podcasts, Skype, and others. They have also read a few chapters of
> > the book "How to teach English with technology", by Dudeney
  and Hockly,
> and
> > listened to some teachers in the CD that accompanies the book. They have
> > really enjoyed learning about those teachers' experiences.
> >
> >
> >
> > This morning, they asked me if it would be possible for them to have
> Skype
> > conferences with teachers that have experience working with projects
> using
> > technology. Our classes are on Mondays and Wednesdays, from 11:10 am to
> > 12:50 pm (BRT minus 1 hour).
> >
> >
> >
> > Would any of you be willing and available to share and discuss your
> > experiences for about 15 to 20 minutes?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > Cintia Costa
> >
> > Universidade Federal do Par�
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text
  portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
> > from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
> > http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
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11:30 amanh�, ent�o, Cintia. Como ser� o esquema? Os alunos fazem perguntas
ou devo preparar algo espec�fico?


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Cintia Costa <cintiabentes@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Oi Carla,
>
> Tudo certo para amanh�? Talvez eu me atrase uns 10 minutos para montar
> tudo para entrar no Skype. Que tal a gente marcar a Skype Conference para
> as 11:30?
>
> Thanks a million,
> Cintia :-)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carla arena carlaarena@...>
> To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com"
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from
> the Brazilian Amazon
>
> Great, Cintia! It will be a pleasure!
>
> Carla
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Cintia Costa cintiabentes@...
> >wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Dear Carla,
> >
> > Thanks a million! They will love to listen to you again (they listened to
> > you in the CD of the book How to teach English with technology)! I will
> > contact you soon!
> >
> > Hugs from the Amazon,
> > Cintia :-)
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Carla arena carlaarena@...>
> > To: "evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from
> > the Brazilian Amazon
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Cintia,
> >
> > I am in Brasilia, and if you need any help, or to Skype with your
> students,
> > I'd be more than glad to do it.
> > my skype id is carlaarena
> >
> > Cheers from Brasilia,
> > Carla Arena
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Maria Bossa mariabossa1@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi dear Cintia
> > > I'm Maria from Cordoba, Argentina. It's great to know what you are
> doing
> > > and you can count on me for any help. I worked with Ayat (my dear
> friend
> > > and colleague from Egypt) in Facebook and Skype. I've also worked with
> > > Edmodo plus some other tools like Photopeach, MakeBelief, ToyStory
> > creator,
> > > Xtranormal among others with my students.
> > > Feel free to contact me here by mail or by Skype. My Skype ID is
> > > maria.bossa1
> > > Hope to listen from you soon,Best regards from neighboring
> ArgentinaMaria
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Smiles, Maria
> > >
> > > To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: cintiabentes@...
> > > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:31:16 -0800
> > > Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Skype chat with teachers-to-be from
> the
> > > Brazilian Amazon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Webheads,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings from the Brazilian Amazon rainforest!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am currently teaching a course called "The use of technologies to
> teach
> > > foreign languages" in the undergraduate course of Teaching English as a
> > > Foreign Language at Universidade Federal do Par�, in the Brazilian
> Amazon
> > > region. My students have been reading about CALL and about projects
> using
> > > Blogs, Podcasts, Skype, and others. They have also read a few chapters
> of
> > > the book "How to teach English with technology", by Dudeney and Hockly,
> > and
> > > listened to some teachers in the CD that accompanies the book. They
> have
> > > really enjoyed learning about those teachers' experiences.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This morning, they asked me if it would be possible for them to have
> > Skype
> > > conferences with teachers that have experience working with projects
> > using
> > > technology. Our classes are on Mondays and Wednesdays, from 11:10 am to
> > > 12:50 pm (BRT minus 1 hour).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Would any of you be willing and available to share and discuss your
> > > experiences for about 15 to 20 minutes?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cintia Costa
> > >
> > > Universidade Federal do Par�
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Vance,

I'm also in shock to hear about Posterous! Thanks for letting us know.

Gosh, what a pity...I've been using Posterous for so long... and doing some
interesting mlearning projects there...

It seems that every time there is a new merge, after a while one of the
services just vanish, just like twitter + Posterous.

Trying to consider what to do now...

Carla


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...> wrote:

> Personally, I'm even more shocked to learn of the end of Posterous from its
> blog post yesterday
> http://blog.posterous.com/thanks-from-posterous
>
> That's going to be a hard act to follow, not to mention the hassle of
> porting over existing sites such as http://learning2gether.posterous.com.
>
> Meanwhile to answer John's question, these days we are using etherpad
> clones for standalone chat.
>
> The clone can be embedded in a website using code like this:
>
> <iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="450"  width="950" src="
> http://etherpad.mit.edu/bvoGrVE7J9"></iframe>
>
> Here's a list of several from Jan 2011
> http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-currently-available-free-EtherPad-clones
>
> Running Etherpad v1.1
> publishwith.me
> piratepad.net
> doc.etherpad.org
> edupad.ch
> shamblespad.com
> vmeoddcollab-dev.mpl.ird.fr:9000
>
> Running old version of Etherpad (mostly v0.9)
> ietherpad.com
> etherpad.mozilla.org:9000 (etherpad.mozilla.com:9000)
> etherpad.mit.edu
> typewith.me
> openetherpad.org
> pad.telecomix.org
> piratenpad.de
> titanpad.com
> meetingwords.com
> sync.in
> kompisen.se
> etherpad.netluchs.de
> netpad.com.br
> ethercodes.com
> epad.recit.org
> piratepad.nl
> pad.planka.nu
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM, John Hibbs <skipper@...>
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Like all Webheads, I was truly sorry to see the end of Tapped In. It
> > was a terrific communication tool, run by very, very nice people.
> > What I find saddest of all is that the funding for Tapped In
> > continuance couldn't be found.
> >
> > Old fashioned guy that I am, I still believe the text chat room is a
> > GREAT way to communicate. I like the ones that offer multi language
> > capability -- type in English and others can read in Spanish or
> > French or whatever. I also liked the addition of url's inside the
> > text chat space -- very nearly as good as pushing we pages during the
> > audio conference.
> >
> > And what may be best of all the ability to copy and paste all the
> > remarks in the text chat room and email copies to the participants.
> >
> > (I never liked the text chat that Blackboard offers...but, oh well.)
> >
> > Because you guys have such a wide, wide landscape, I would be
> > especially interested in learning about "stand alone" text chat
> > rooms that you can recommend.
> >
> > Thanks!!!
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
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I have been a great fan of posterous over the last two years and have come
to reply on it for my work with students' recordings.

I'm left wondering what to do from now on.

As this news hit us right at the end of the mMOOC, I have been posting about
my search for something to use instead of posterous in that group on Edmodo.
I have made my posts public so that they can be read by people not using
Edmodo. This is the link to the public page:

http://britishcouncilamigo.edmodo.com/public/multimooc/group_id/2168865

I have posted about Tumblr, Chirbit and briefly about Spreaker and plan to
do the same with audioboo, Soundcloud and iPadio.

When I decide where to go next, I will still be left with the problem of
what to do with the backups I have ordered from posterous.
The two solutions posterous suggest won't work for me. Squarespace is not
free and I wouldn't want to pay or ask my students to pay and Wordpress
won't be able to host the audio files.
I can foresee any solution being very time consuming as I link posts to
wherever I can find to house the audio files.

I'm am keen to examine all possibilities for a replacement to posterous for
audio files, so if you've got any suggestions, please let me know. I fear we
will be mostly commiserating with each other more than finding solutions to
the back up problem, but, hey, that's something!

Chris

   _____

From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hibbs
Sent: 17 February 2013 04:54
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous




One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
there was enough income to stay afloat.

As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
a fee-for-service basis? (So long as the provider doesn't keep
offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
costs would be relatively small.

It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
their Tribe for continuing the service?

At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
>Hi everyone.
>
>It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
>most cases,
>
>1) it will no longer be free.
>2) it will close down.
>
>Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost) for
>all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
>not for Posterous :(
>
>It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
>of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
>time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
>getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
>anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
>
>It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
>it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
>they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
>chains monopolise the market.
>
>And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
>value and want to keep






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Hi Christmas, Carla and Vance,
For about 70 dls a year you buy your freedom  if you have your own domain and
host it at Gandi.(less the first year)
https://www.gandi.net/hosting/simple?lang=en
There may be better deals at other providers. (Eg. Bluehost
http://www.bluehost.com/)
As you can see here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/harry/8470437339/in/photostream/
your own domain provides you with a point of privacy and control
B

Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Chris Fry" <chrisfry@...> wrote:

> I have been a great fan of posterous over the last two years and have come
> to reply on it for my work with students' recordings.
>
> I'm left wondering what to do from now on.
>
> As this news hit us right at the end of the mMOOC, I have been posting about
> my search for something to use instead of posterous in that group on Edmodo.
> I have made my posts public so that they can be read by people not using
> Edmodo. This is the link to the public page:
>
> http://britishcouncilamigo.edmodo.com/public/multimooc/group_id/2168865
>
> I have posted about Tumblr, Chirbit and briefly about Spreaker and plan to
> do the same with audioboo, Soundcloud and iPadio.
>
> When I decide where to go next, I will still be left with the problem of
> what to do with the backups I have ordered from posterous.
> The two solutions posterous suggest won't work for me. Squarespace is not
> free and I wouldn't want to pay or ask my students to pay and Wordpress
> won't be able to host the audio files.
> I can foresee any solution being very time consuming as I link posts to
> wherever I can find to house the audio files.
>
> I'm am keen to examine all possibilities for a replacement to posterous for
> audio files, so if you've got any suggestions, please let me know. I fear we
> will be mostly commiserating with each other more than finding solutions to
> the back up problem, but, hey, that's something!
>
> Chris
>
>  _____
>
> From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hibbs
> Sent: 17 February 2013 04:54
> To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous
>
>
>
>
> One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
> would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
> there was enough income to stay afloat.
>
> As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
> a fee-for-service basis? (So long as the provider doesn't keep
> offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
> costs would be relatively small.
>
> It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
> service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
> would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
> their Tribe for continuing the service?
>
> At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
>> most cases,
>>
>> 1) it will no longer be free.
>> 2) it will close down.
>>
>> Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost) for
>> all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
>> not for Posterous :(
>>
>> It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
>> of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
>> time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
>> getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
>> anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
>>
>> It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
>> it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
>> they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
>> chains monopolise the market.
>>
>> And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
>> value and want to keep
>
>
>
>
>
>
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You're right, Bee. I've been using and testing those free online spaces for
years because of the educators I train. They are always in the look for the
free tools and don't have or don't want to spend money on that.

However, I've decided that even if I test things, I should keep things in
my own domain, which I already have, so I guess it is time to make the
definitive move...

Thanks!
Carla


On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi Christmas, Carla and Vance,
> For about 70 dls a year you buy your freedom if you have your own domain
> and host it at Gandi.(less the first year)
> https://www.gandi.net/hosting/simple?lang=en
> There may be better deals at other providers. (Eg. Bluehost
> http://www.bluehost.com/)
> As you can see here
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/harry/8470437339/in/photostream/
> your own domain provides you with a point of privacy and control
> B
>
> Barbara Dieu
> http://barbaradieu.com
> http://beespace.net
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Chris Fry" chrisfry@...> wrote:
>
> > I have been a great fan of posterous over the last two years and have
> come
> > to reply on it for my work with students' recordings.
> >
> > I'm left wondering what to do from now on.
> >
> > As this news hit us right at the end of the mMOOC, I have been posting
> about
> > my search for something to use instead of posterous in that group on
> Edmodo.
> > I have made my posts public so that they can be read by people not using
> > Edmodo. This is the link to the public page:
> >
> > http://britishcouncilamigo.edmodo.com/public/multimooc/group_id/2168865
> >
> > I have posted about Tumblr, Chirbit and briefly about Spreaker and plan
> to
> > do the same with audioboo, Soundcloud and iPadio.
> >
> > When I decide where to go next, I will still be left with the problem of
> > what to do with the backups I have ordered from posterous.
> > The two solutions posterous suggest won't work for me. Squarespace is not
> > free and I wouldn't want to pay or ask my students to pay and Wordpress
> > won't be able to host the audio files.
> > I can foresee any solution being very time consuming as I link posts to
> > wherever I can find to house the audio files.
> >
> > I'm am keen to examine all possibilities for a replacement to posterous
> for
> > audio files, so if you've got any suggestions, please let me know. I
> fear we
> > will be mostly commiserating with each other more than finding solutions
> to
> > the back up problem, but, hey, that's something!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hibbs
> > Sent: 17 February 2013 04:54
> > To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
> > would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
> > there was enough income to stay afloat.
> >
> > As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
> > a fee-for-service basis? (So long as the provider doesn't keep
> > offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
> > costs would be relatively small.
> >
> > It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
> > service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
> > would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
> > their Tribe for continuing the service?
> >
> > At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
> >> Hi everyone.
> >>
> >> It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
> >> most cases,
> >>
> >> 1) it will no longer be free.
> >> 2) it will close down.
> >>
> >> Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost)
> for
> >> all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
> >> not for Posterous :(
> >>
> >> It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
> >> of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
> >> time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
> >> getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
> >> anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
> >>
> >> It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
> >> it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
> >> they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
> >> chains monopolise the market.
> >>
> >> And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
> >> value and want to keep
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
> from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
> http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
>


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Hi Chris,
Sorry for the Christmas...my iPad plays these autocomplete tricks on me. I
should've re-read before sending.
B.

Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 17, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Carla arena <carlaarena@...> wrote:

> You're right, Bee. I've been using and testing those free online spaces for
> years because of the educators I train. They are always in the look for the
> free tools and don't have or don't want to spend money on that.
>
> However, I've decided that even if I test things, I should keep things in
> my own domain, which I already have, so I guess it is time to make the
> definitive move...
>
> Thanks!
> Carla
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi Christmas, Carla and Vance,
>> For about 70 dls a year you buy your freedom if you have your own domain
>> and host it at Gandi.(less the first year)
>> https://www.gandi.net/hosting/simple?lang=en
>> There may be better deals at other providers. (Eg. Bluehost
>> http://www.bluehost.com/)
>> As you can see here
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/harry/8470437339/in/photostream/
>> your own domain provides you with a point of privacy and control
>> B
>>
>> Barbara Dieu
>> http://barbaradieu.com
>> http://beespace.net
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Chris Fry" chrisfry@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been a great fan of posterous over the last two years and have
>> come
>>> to reply on it for my work with students' recordings.
>>>
>>> I'm left wondering what to do from now on.
>>>
>>> As this news hit us right at the end of the mMOOC, I have been posting
>> about
>>> my search for something to use instead of posterous in that group on
>> Edmodo.
>>> I have made my posts public so that they can be read by people not using
>>> Edmodo. This is the link to the public page:
>>>
>>> http://britishcouncilamigo.edmodo.com/public/multimooc/group_id/2168865
>>>
>>> I have posted about Tumblr, Chirbit and briefly about Spreaker and plan
>> to
>>> do the same with audioboo, Soundcloud and iPadio.
>>>
>>> When I decide where to go next, I will still be left with the problem of
>>> what to do with the backups I have ordered from posterous.
>>> The two solutions posterous suggest won't work for me. Squarespace is not
>>> free and I wouldn't want to pay or ask my students to pay and Wordpress
>>> won't be able to host the audio files.
>>> I can foresee any solution being very time consuming as I link posts to
>>> wherever I can find to house the audio files.
>>>
>>> I'm am keen to examine all possibilities for a replacement to posterous
>> for
>>> audio files, so if you've got any suggestions, please let me know. I
>> fear we
>>> will be mostly commiserating with each other more than finding solutions
>> to
>>> the back up problem, but, hey, that's something!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>>> [mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Hibbs
>>> Sent: 17 February 2013 04:54
>>> To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
>>> would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
>>> there was enough income to stay afloat.
>>>
>>> As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
>>> a fee-for-service basis? (So long as the provider doesn't keep
>>> offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
>>> costs would be relatively small.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
>>> service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
>>> would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
>>> their Tribe for continuing the service?
>>>
>>> At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
>>>> most cases,
>>>>
>>>> 1) it will no longer be free.
>>>> 2) it will close down.
>>>>
>>>> Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost)
>> for
>>>> all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, but
>>>> not for Posterous :(
>>>>
>>>> It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
>>>> of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
>>>> time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
>>>> getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
>>>> anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
>>>> it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
>>>> they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
>>>> chains monopolise the market.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
>>>> value and want to keep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
>> from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
>> http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text from
reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-) http://webheads.infoYahoo!
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>
>
>

I like it! Maybe I could adopt it as name!

   _____

From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Dieu
Sent: 17 February 2013 21:50
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous




Hi Chris,
Sorry for the Christmas...my iPad plays these autocomplete tricks on me. I
should've re-read before sending.
B.

Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 17, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Carla arena carlaarena@...
<mailto:carlaarena%40gmail.com> > wrote:

> You're right, Bee. I've been using and testing those free online spaces
for
> years because of the educators I train. They are always in the look for
the
> free tools and don't have or don't want to spend money on that.
>
> However, I've decided that even if I test things, I should keep things in
> my own domain, which I already have, so I guess it is time to make the
> definitive move...
>
> Thanks!
> Carla
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Barbara Dieu beeonline@...
<mailto:beeonline%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Hi Christmas, Carla and Vance,
>> For about 70 dls a year you buy your freedom if you have your own domain
>> and host it at Gandi.(less the first year)
>> https://www.gandi.net/hosting/simple?lang=en
>> There may be better deals at other providers. (Eg. Bluehost
>> http://www.bluehost.com/)
>> As you can see here
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/harry/8470437339/in/photostream/
>> your own domain provides you with a point of privacy and control
>> B
>>
>> Barbara Dieu
>> http://barbaradieu.com
>> http://beespace.net
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2013, at 4:20 PM, "Chris Fry" chrisfry@...
<mailto:chrisfry%40pangea.org> > wrote:
>>
>>> I have been a great fan of posterous over the last two years and have
>> come
>>> to reply on it for my work with students' recordings.
>>>
>>> I'm left wondering what to do from now on.
>>>
>>> As this news hit us right at the end of the mMOOC, I have been posting
>> about
>>> my search for something to use instead of posterous in that group on
>> Edmodo.
>>> I have made my posts public so that they can be read by people not using
>>> Edmodo. This is the link to the public page:
>>>
>>> http://britishcouncilamigo.edmodo.com/public/multimooc/group_id/2168865
>>>
>>> I have posted about Tumblr, Chirbit and briefly about Spreaker and plan
>> to
>>> do the same with audioboo, Soundcloud and iPadio.
>>>
>>> When I decide where to go next, I will still be left with the problem of
>>> what to do with the backups I have ordered from posterous.
>>> The two solutions posterous suggest won't work for me. Squarespace is
not
>>> free and I wouldn't want to pay or ask my students to pay and Wordpress
>>> won't be able to host the audio files.
>>> I can foresee any solution being very time consuming as I link posts to
>>> wherever I can find to house the audio files.
>>>
>>> I'm am keen to examine all possibilities for a replacement to posterous
>> for
>>> audio files, so if you've got any suggestions, please let me know. I
>> fear we
>>> will be mostly commiserating with each other more than finding solutions
>> to
>>> the back up problem, but, hey, that's something!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:evonline2002_webheads%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> [mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:evonline2002_webheads%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of John Hibbs
>>> Sent: 17 February 2013 04:54
>>> To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:evonline2002_webheads%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: Posterous
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One would think that before the Final Decision to shutter the doors
>>> would be to blast all the users with some rate chart -- and see if
>>> there was enough income to stay afloat.
>>>
>>> As good as Posterous was, I would think that it could have made it on
>>> a fee-for-service basis? (So long as the provider doesn't keep
>>> offering new bells and windows, one would think that maintenence
>>> costs would be relatively small.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to know more about Posterous 'on going'
>>> service costs would be? It would also be interesting to learn what
>>> would Tribe Leaders, like Vance, would be able to "collect" from
>>> their Tribe for continuing the service?
>>>
>>> At 2:50 AM +0000 2/17/13, Michael Coghlan wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>
>>>> It does seem the nature of the free software beast that eventually, in
>>>> most cases,
>>>>
>>>> 1) it will no longer be free.
>>>> 2) it will close down.
>>>>
>>>> Backupify (backupify.com) provides back up service (at a small cost)
>> for
>>>> all Google apps (Gmail, Blogger, etc), Flickr, Facebook and Twitter,
but
>>>> not for Posterous :(
>>>>
>>>> It's a real shame that Tapped In and Posterous are closing. TI is part
>>>> of webheads history! It's been one of our default home bases for a long
>>>> time. And I thought Posterous was the simplest tool out there for
>>>> getting content on the web quickly. It seemed to accept just about
>>>> anything you threw at it via email, upload, or phone.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that as Facebook goes on expanding and convincing people that
>>>> it is THE internet, other niche products fall by the wayside because
>>>> they can't compete. Just like small businesses close as supermarket
>>>> chains monopolise the market.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, as Nina said, back up and keep a local copy of anything you
>>>> value and want to keep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
>> from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
>> http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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