Is that last one not free and open?

I've been tracking all this free and open knowledge here
http://toolkit4learning.blogspot.com/

keep it coming :-)

Vance



On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thanks Mike. However, I have been sticking to what is free and open
> online. Do not use quizzes a lot. Still do lots of old fashioned writing
> and spend weekends correcting and listening to stds presentations online.
> B.
>
> Barbara Dieu
> http://barbaradieu.com
> http://beespace.net
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On 10/11/2012, at 13:14, "Mike" <marzio-school@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Elizabeth, Hi Bee,
> >
> > Have you heard about ProProfs?
> > http://www.proprofs.com/
> > I'm using it for my new mobile site.
> >
> > The fact that it's compatible with iPhones and Android devices is one
> advantage over the competition, since more and more kids are doing their
> homework; or just learning English on their phones. After finishing a quiz,
> the resulting html embed file looks great on a computer too.
> >
> > There are very few options to choose from for smartphone compatibility.
> And creating a quiz on ProProfs is a breeze. All you need of course, is
> your own good content.
> >
> > It's got a pretty wide variety of types of interactivity. The only type
> of activity which I miss is matching quizzes.
> >
> > Students enter their name before starting the quiz, and teachers use it
> to follow up students. I don't need this feature, but it would probably be
> necessary for quite a few webhead-teachers.
> >
> > IMHO, it's an intuitive quiz engine that beats the pants off quiz
> engines in popular LMSs like Moodle. I'm simply happy that I found what I
> need.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Elizabeth
> Hanson-Smith" <ehansonsmi@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Bee--
> >> I'm working with a project in Thailand that uses Quizlet to create
> exercises for English for Science students for each of the levels of the
> Academic Word Lists:
> >> http://quizlet.com/class/166456/
> >> Look at the MFU (Most Frequently Used Words)lists.
> >>
> >> It's an interesting idea, though I am not convinced that memorizing
> vocab words in this way really does much for learning a language. Of course
> these are not the only way in which students would become acquainted with
> the vocab. I think the English for presentations and English for classes is
> more useful, at least for teachers who are trying to teach in English.
> >>
> >> In any case, Quizlet is a nice tool for generating exercises.
> >>
> >> --Elizabeth H-S
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Have any of you setup a website/wiki/blog with supplemental
> activities like this
> >>> that I could perhaps point them to? Thinking in more general terms,
> what
> >>> tools are you using to provide textbook reinforcing activities for your
> >>> students?
> >>>
> >>> Are your looking for activities for students to access and do on
> >>> their own (with self-correction) or something that needs teacher
> >>> guidance?
> >>> One thing that comes to my mind (for more advanced students) is
> >>> captioning / translating using either Ted Talks or choosing a
> >>> film/video snippet they like on YouTube. This can be done in any
> >>> language.
> >>> http://universalsubtitles.org/en/
> >>> or
> >>> http://dotsub.com/
> >>> I realize this does not necessarily accompany the text book and it's
> >>> more work for the teachers - but it is much more interesting!
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>> B.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Barbara Dieu
> >>> http://barbaradieu.com
> >>> http://beespace.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > When replying to postings, please delete this footer and extraneous text
> from reply BUT retain info to help retain context :-)
> http://webheads.infoYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


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Hi Bee,

OK I got it.

I just want to mention that the free version has all the important functions.
But you have to put up with ProProfs branding when a student finishes a quiz.

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Dieu <beeonline@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike. However,   I have been sticking to what is free and open online.
Do not use quizzes a lot. Still do lots of old fashioned writing and spend
weekends correcting and listening to stds presentations online.
> B.
>
> Barbara Dieu
> http://barbaradieu.com
> http://beespace.net
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 10/11/2012, at 13:14, "Mike" <marzio-school@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Elizabeth, Hi Bee,
> >
> > Have you heard about ProProfs?
> > http://www.proprofs.com/
> > I'm using it for my new mobile site.
> >
> > The fact that it's compatible with iPhones and Android devices is one
advantage over the competition, since more and more kids are doing their
homework; or just learning English on their phones. After finishing a quiz, the
resulting html embed file looks great on a computer too.
> >
> > There are very few options to choose from for smartphone compatibility. And
creating a quiz on ProProfs is a breeze. All you need of course, is your own
good content.
> >
> > It's got a pretty wide variety of types of interactivity. The only type of
activity which I miss is matching quizzes.
> >
> > Students enter their name before starting the quiz, and teachers use it to
follow up students. I don't need this feature, but it would probably be
necessary for quite a few webhead-teachers.
> >
> > IMHO, it's an intuitive quiz engine that beats the pants off quiz engines in
popular LMSs like Moodle. I'm simply happy that I found what I need.
> >
> > Mike

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Interesting survey, Gregg, but one question (18?) didn't allow user input as the
answer, so I had to put "don't know." Can you fix that?
--Elizabeth HS

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Attention Evonline 2002 Webheads CoP members:
>
> I am a doctoral candidate in the field of Information Systems at Dakota
> State University. I am conducting a research study entitled "The
> Influence of Community Commitment on Knowledge Management in Online
> Communities of Practice".
>
> I would like to invite you to participate in this online survey as a
> member of an online community of practice. Online communities of
> practice are formed when a group of people communicate and exchange
> ideas on the Web about a specific topic of interest.
>
> I realize that your time is valuable and have attempted to keep the
> requested information as brief and concise as possible. It will take you
> approximately 15 to 20 minutes to complete the survey.
>
> Responses are strictly confidential. When the data and analysis are
> presented, respondents will not be linked to the data by name, title or
> any other identifying item. The results of the study will be shared with
> the participating communities when the research is complete.
>
> I have written an e-book that summarizes his current research on online
> communities of practice. As a reward for completing the survey, you can
> access and download this e-book.
>
> Please fill out the survey at the link below.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC
> <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esurveymonkey%2\
> Ecom%2Fs%2F9R5F3QC&urlhash=62k5&_t=tracking_anet>
>
> Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
>
> If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
>
> Gregg Greer
> Assistant Professor
> Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> Department of Business Administration
> Lubbock Christian University
> jggreer@...
> Gregg.Greer@...

I started it but find I can't access the links on the Nook I have. I will have
to read it on my computer I guess. Wish I had an iPad!

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
wrote:
>
> Peggy wrote me about this eventuality (because I hadn't tried it, I was not
> an authority on the process).
>
> I also bought the book.  Earlier, Only $10.
>
> Anyway, at least we have it, that's the main thing
> (now just gotta read it)
>
> V
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Nina Liakos <nina.liakos@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I ended up buying the book. It was partly that Wes's webpage crashed my
> > computer four times, and partly that in my impatience I did not read the
> > instructions carefully enough ("To use the code, people should click the
> > ADD TO CART button below the ebook version they want INSTEAD of clicking to
> > buy it on Amazon or B&N:"). Now the code has expired, and I have already
> > been charged for the book by Barnes and Noble. :-( I hope some other people
> > at least were able to take advantage of Wes' nice offer.
> > Nina
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi everyone,

If you missed Jonathan last night (for me) the recording is well worth
watching.  Jonathan took us through our childhoods with scouting badges and
brought us up to date with an interface that can trigger badges in a
community, even invisible ones.  Say what!?

Curious?  I just tweeted

Excellent presentation on badges recorded by Jonathan Finkelstein of
LearningTimes for
#*learning2gether*<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23learning2gether&src=hash>
  http://tinyurl.com/2012nov11badges
<http://t.co/PzVOBFHR>#*webheads*<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23webheads&src=h\
ash>

Vance

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been working off and on all weekend on blogging and podcasting what
> turned out to be 4 presentations in a double header event last Sunday.  I
> am VERY grateful to Peggy George who has been making it a habit to render
> the MP3 files for me of our Elluminate sessions and GE.TT them over to
> me.  Although it's Bb Collaborate now, Elluminate Publish is still the tool
> that teases out the mp3s. It's a free download but it seems only to work on
> Apple computers these days, so Peggy's help saves me a lot of trouble
> (otherwise my wife brings an Apple home from school).  And THIS last week,
> Peggy even took the long Elluminate recording of the BrazTESOL event and
> broke that out into three parts, which is what you find when you visit the
> podcast here:
>
>
http://learning2gether.posterous.com/braztesol-bsbgo-online-event-first-up-in-a-\
su
>
> So thanks to Peggy for that.  And last week she was part of the event with
> Wesley Fryer and Susan Van Gelder which met to debrief the K12 Online
> conference just ended (and of course she sent me the mp3 recording and
> transcript) which you can find podcast here:
>
>
http://learning2gether.posterous.com/k12-online-conference-debrief-game-2-in-a-s\
pe
>
> Tomorrow Sunday Nov 11 at 15:00 GMT we have Jonathan Finkelstein joining
> us from Learning Times, the company that provides us with our Webheads
> meeting room at
> http://learningtimesevents.org/webheads/
>
> Jonathan will be talking about the LT product BadgeStack.  Badge's have
> become a hot topic, soon perhaps to be a revolution, in assessment.  It
> will be interesting to see how Jonathan and LT envisage this new endeavor
> vis a vis other entities developing the use of badges, such as the Khan
> Academy and the Mozilla Open Badges project.  The topic is vitally timely
> as educators are starting to seriously re-think the whole notion of
> schooling an how to asses what individuals achieve there.
>
> This will take place in the Webheads room, 15:00 GMT.  Hope to see many of
> you there,
>
> Vance
>
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>



--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
I again,

Bobbi brought the Apple home and we Published the Elluminate recording and I
podcast it and Scooped it.  You can play the recording right from the scoop.it
link
http://www.scoop.it/t/learning2gether/p/3303043701/jonathan-finkelstein-walks-us\
-through-learningtimes-badgestack

or you can download the MP3 from the podcast site:
http://learning2gether.posterous.com/jonathan-finkelstein-walks-us-through-learn\
in

enjoy,
Vance



> If you missed Jonathan last night (for me) the recording is well worth
> watching.  Jonathan took us through our childhoods with scouting badges and
> brought us up to date with an interface that can trigger badges in a
> community, even invisible ones.  Say what!?
>
> Curious?  I just tweeted
>
> Excellent presentation on badges recorded by Jonathan Finkelstein of
> LearningTimes for
> #*learning2gether*<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23learning2gether&src=hash>
>  http://tinyurl.com/2012nov11badges
>
<http://t.co/PzVOBFHR>#*webheads*<https://twitter.com/search?q=%23webheads&src=h\
ash>
>
> Vance
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have been working off and on all weekend on blogging and podcasting what
> > turned out to be 4 presentations in a double header event last Sunday.  I
> > am VERY grateful to Peggy George who has been making it a habit to render
> > the MP3 files for me of our Elluminate sessions and GE.TT them over to
> > me.  Although it's Bb Collaborate now, Elluminate Publish is still the tool
> > that teases out the mp3s. It's a free download but it seems only to work on
> > Apple computers these days, so Peggy's help saves me a lot of trouble
> > (otherwise my wife brings an Apple home from school).  And THIS last week,
> > Peggy even took the long Elluminate recording of the BrazTESOL event and
> > broke that out into three parts, which is what you find when you visit the
> > podcast here:
> >
> >
http://learning2gether.posterous.com/braztesol-bsbgo-online-event-first-up-in-a-\
su
> >
> > So thanks to Peggy for that.  And last week she was part of the event with
> > Wesley Fryer and Susan Van Gelder which met to debrief the K12 Online
> > conference just ended (and of course she sent me the mp3 recording and
> > transcript) which you can find podcast here:
> >
> >
http://learning2gether.posterous.com/k12-online-conference-debrief-game-2-in-a-s\
pe
> >
> > Tomorrow Sunday Nov 11 at 15:00 GMT we have Jonathan Finkelstein joining
> > us from Learning Times, the company that provides us with our Webheads
> > meeting room at
> > http://learningtimesevents.org/webheads/
> >
> > Jonathan will be talking about the LT product BadgeStack.  Badge's have
> > become a hot topic, soon perhaps to be a revolution, in assessment.  It
> > will be interesting to see how Jonathan and LT envisage this new endeavor
> > vis a vis other entities developing the use of badges, such as the Khan
> > Academy and the Mozilla Open Badges project.  The topic is vitally timely
> > as educators are starting to seriously re-think the whole notion of
> > schooling an how to asses what individuals achieve there.
> >
> > This will take place in the Webheads room, 15:00 GMT.  Hope to see many of
> > you there,
> >
> > Vance
> >
> > --
> > Vance Stevens
> > http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> > http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Excellent point!

I've added "Yahoo Groups" as an option on the question about the platform of the
group.

I also added "Other Platform (See below)" as an option.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Have a great day!

Gregg Greer

p.s. Here's the link to the survey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Elizabeth Hanson-Smith"
<ehansonsmi@...> wrote:
>
> Interesting survey, Gregg, but one question (18?) didn't allow user input as
the answer, so I had to put "don't know." Can you fix that?
> --Elizabeth HS
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Attention Evonline 2002 Webheads CoP members:
> >
> > I am a doctoral candidate in the field of Information Systems at Dakota
> > State University. I am conducting a research study entitled "The
> > Influence of Community Commitment on Knowledge Management in Online
> > Communities of Practice".
> >
> > I would like to invite you to participate in this online survey as a
> > member of an online community of practice. Online communities of
> > practice are formed when a group of people communicate and exchange
> > ideas on the Web about a specific topic of interest.
> >
> > I realize that your time is valuable and have attempted to keep the
> > requested information as brief and concise as possible. It will take you
> > approximately 15 to 20 minutes to complete the survey.
> >
> > Responses are strictly confidential. When the data and analysis are
> > presented, respondents will not be linked to the data by name, title or
> > any other identifying item. The results of the study will be shared with
> > the participating communities when the research is complete.
> >
> > I have written an e-book that summarizes his current research on online
> > communities of practice. As a reward for completing the survey, you can
> > access and download this e-book.
> >
> > Please fill out the survey at the link below.
> >
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esurveymonkey%2\
> > Ecom%2Fs%2F9R5F3QC&urlhash=62k5&_t=tracking_anet>
> >
> > Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
> >
> > If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
> >
> > Gregg Greer
> > Assistant Professor
> > Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> > Department of Business Administration
> > Lubbock Christian University
> > jggreer@
> > Gregg.Greer@
>

Hi, just to let you know
try not to miss ...

The New Frontier of Massive Open On-line Learning - John Hibbs and Vance Stevens
When
Wed, November 14, noon GMT
Description
SESSION LINK  -
https://sas.elluminate.com/d.jnlp?sid=2008350&password=GECPart113

I've blogged what I intend to talk about, with links to John's posts on his take
on the topic ...
http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/2012/11/when-is-mooc-not-mooc-what-mooc-mean\
s.html

Hope to see you there,
Vance

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vance Stevens <vancestev@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Set in a Ning and put on almost but not quite single-handedly by Steve
> Hargadon and Lucy Gray and a handful of volunteers, the Global Education
> Conference starts on Monday Nov 12 and continues through Friday Nov 16.
> Before the CfP closed, over 300 presentations were accepted.
> http://www.globaleducationconference.com/
>
> I'm wondering how many on this Webheads list had theirs accepted.  I'd like
> to link to them from here:
>
http://learning2gether.pbworks.com/w/page/32206114/volunteersneeded#WebheadsandL\
2Gcommunitymemberpresentations
>
> I'm sure some webheads are among the 300 (besides John Hibbs and I, who
> managed to get one in just under the deadline).
>
> If you're planning to be a part of the GEC conference can you please reply
> to this thread with names of presenters and title of presentation, and date
> and time of presentation, and I'll see that you are listed at the link
> above.
>
> Alternatively, if you are a member of that wiki, you could write in your
> own details, whichever is easiest for you.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from other webheads GEC presenters.
>
> Best,
> Vance
>
>
> --
> Vance Stevens
> http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
> http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Completed the sutvey two days ago, Gregg.

Wishing you all the best,
Buthaina (aka Buth)

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Attention Evonline 2002 Webheads CoP members:
>
> I am a doctoral candidate in the field of Information Systems at Dakota
> State University. I am conducting a research study entitled "The
> Influence of Community Commitment on Knowledge Management in Online
> Communities of Practice".
>
> I would like to invite you to participate in this online survey as a
> member of an online community of practice. Online communities of
> practice are formed when a group of people communicate and exchange
> ideas on the Web about a specific topic of interest.
>
> I realize that your time is valuable and have attempted to keep the
> requested information as brief and concise as possible. It will take you
> approximately 15 to 20 minutes to complete the survey.
>
> Responses are strictly confidential. When the data and analysis are
> presented, respondents will not be linked to the data by name, title or
> any other identifying item. The results of the study will be shared with
> the participating communities when the research is complete.
>
> I have written an e-book that summarizes his current research on online
> communities of practice. As a reward for completing the survey, you can
> access and download this e-book.
>
> Please fill out the survey at the link below.
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC
> <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esurveymonkey%2\
> Ecom%2Fs%2F9R5F3QC&urlhash=62k5&_t=tracking_anet>
>
> Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
>
> If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
>
> Gregg Greer
> Assistant Professor
> Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> Department of Business Administration
> Lubbock Christian University
> jggreer@...
> Gregg.Greer@...
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Apologies for cross-postings]

Don't miss the next IATEFL Learnng Technologies SIG webinar, this Sunday 18
November at 10h GMT!

It's with a group of four outstanding Australian educators, sharing how they set
up a social network for teachers in their region: 'Setting up a regional PLN on
Twitter: AusELT'. In the webinar these educators will discuss Twitter and other
online tools they are using to enhance this network.

This session will be particularly interesting to teachers who would like to set
up their own local online networks at whatever level � at school level, city
level, or even countrywide. The webinar will provide an excellent blueprint for
how to seed and grow online networks for teachers.

More information about the webinar, including a link to check the time in your
own country, the speakers' bios, and a link to the webinar room (which will be
live 30 mins before the event is due to start) are on the LT SIG website here:

http://ltsig.org.uk/events/13-future-events/261-181112-webinar-setting-up-a-regi\
onal-pln-on-twitter-auselt.html

This webinar is open to everybody, although the recording will be available to
LT SIG members only.

Look forward to seeing some of you Webheads there on Sunday!

Nicky

Nicky Hockly
IATEFL LT SIG Online Events Coordinator

http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/

The short of this post, by me, is what we all know. Vance Stevens is
not just a tremendous Tribe Leader, (like Obama) he is also a
brilliant writer and thinker. (like Obama).  What he advances in the
post (above) is solid proof of this.

The best part? Like choosing between a Ferrari, Maserati, Lexus, BMW,
Cadillac, or Mercedes - from such a rich banquet, I thought it was
this:(thank you Steven Downes):

>"Stephen Downes was once asked why he would flog himself across the
>back with a course open to thousands  (snip snip) when Downes could
>have left it at just the two dozen (snip snip), and  he replied
>simply,"

Here's  are two of the brightest gems:

>GEM ONE: Says Downs: ..."because I would learn from it."

>GEM TWO: Says Stevens:  "This is the prime motivator for setting up a cMOOC".


Ladies and Gentlemen:  This is Very Big Stuff. Mind bending, game
changing, iconic, watershed, tidal wave --- you pick the term.

Me? I think this is one of those really, truly "watershed moments" --
not quite as "visible" as Sputnik or John Glenn and the Mercury Stage
on the way to the moon...but given the power of all the Web tools,
access, speed, impact, publicity, and most certainly both the
protection of the University brand and their requirement to not be
"diluted" AND the escalating costs to acquire the "ultimate button" -
a "real" diploma from a "real" University. (yes, I know,
"certificates" are boiling hot issue and a reasonably big part of my
polemic re the hazards of a MOOC from Coursera). To include my
conviction that ESL plays a Very Big Part. You have heard this chant
from me repeatedly

GEM 3 from Hibbs -"Inside ESL classrooms are the leaders of tomorrow
and the connective tissues to reach the (community) leaders of
today.....in every single corner of the world."

So where do "we" go from here?

Let me just ask some questions

1. Can Downes or Vance, (plus those referenced in the Stevens
article) agree on a Landing Place where these threads can be (mostly)
pulled together? A wide open Forum, probably with several different
threads. (NOTE: Coursera had so many Forums they became more problem
than solution! ugh!!!) How do you manage a Forum? A Thread.  Where is
the "best" MOOC Landing place? And how do "we" make it THE magnet ,
megaphone and World Class Think Tank for MOOCs?And how is it funded?

2. What Threads would be inside that Landing Place? such as:

a) It's obvious that there is plenty of demand for a "semi-massive"
MOOC course(s) 101, 102, 103, up to 501, 502 503.  Who could put 101
together and offer it widely. How could that person be well paid?
(Kickstarter?)

b)  MOOC Tools In a Box?  Tools for advocacy groups? Tools for
training? Tools for fundraising? Tools for learning groups? Tools for
Assessment? Rewards? Certification? Tools for broadcasting, outreach,
archives? Chaos "management"?

c) MOOCs on the Moon -- You think I'm kidding? 50 years ago JFK gave
a speech you should either watch or read
http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm
Substitute a very few words in that speech with the challenges and
opportunities today, and I think you will agree that if "we" had a
person of JFK stature -- Sir John Daniel? - the prime goal of
accelerating access to education, reducing costs, and vastly
improving outcomes is a "job"as important as any leader of anywhere.
(If Obama had lost, I would have run him down via his brother in law,
just up the road from Eugene....but I digress.

d) and, to repeat, how do you fund the Landing Place?

Thank you Vance. I feel a lot better; maybe it's because being your
junior partner put too much stress on me. Big shoes worn by those
with small feet make for a clumsy walk. Or big pratfall.

Seriously, thank you...ALL of you!!!!

P.S. Here you can find the text of my "Prepared Remarks" for the GEC
Presentation where Vance carried the whole load.
http://oregonhibbs.com/2012/11/14/global-conference-hibbs-prepared-remarks/

Hi Nicky,

Thanks for sharing with us. This is a good event to attend.

Katia


Katia HAMEG
MA TESOL
EFL/ESL Teacher
Montr�al, (Qc)
438-380-7873  <tel:438-380-7873>


On 11/15/2012 4:01 AM, Nicky wrote:
>
> [Apologies for cross-postings]
>
> Don't miss the next IATEFL Learnng Technologies SIG webinar, this
> Sunday 18 November at 10h GMT!
>
> It's with a group of four outstanding Australian educators, sharing
> how they set up a social network for teachers in their region:
> 'Setting up a regional PLN on Twitter: AusELT'. In the webinar these
> educators will discuss Twitter and other online tools they are using
> to enhance this network.
>
> This session will be particularly interesting to teachers who would
> like to set up their own local online networks at whatever level -- at
> school level, city level, or even countrywide. The webinar will
> provide an excellent blueprint for how to seed and grow online
> networks for teachers.
>
> More information about the webinar, including a link to check the time
> in your own country, the speakers' bios, and a link to the webinar
> room (which will be live 30 mins before the event is due to start) are
> on the LT SIG website here:
>
>
http://ltsig.org.uk/events/13-future-events/261-181112-webinar-setting-up-a-regi\
onal-pln-on-twitter-auselt.html
>
> This webinar is open to everybody, although the recording will be
> available to LT SIG members only.
>
> Look forward to seeing some of you Webheads there on Sunday!
>
> Nicky
>
> Nicky Hockly
> IATEFL LT SIG Online Events Coordinator
>
>

--
Katia HAMEG
MA TESOL
EFL/ESL Teacher
Longueuil (Quebec),
450-646-9282



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Thanks John and Vance. I've added a link to Vance's blog in the comment section
of this article I wrote on MOOCs a while ago.
http://tutormentor.blogspot.com/2012/04/navigating-information-overload-moocs.ht\
ml

Dan Bassill
Tutor/Mentor Connection
Tutor/Mentor Institute, LLC

-----Original Message-----
>From: John Hibbs <skipper@...>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2012 8:41 AM
>To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
>Cc: Stephen Downes <stephen@...>
>Subject: [evonline2002_webheads] Digesting Vance's MOOC Analysis
>
>http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/
>
>The short of this post, by me, is what we all know. Vance Stevens is
>not just a tremendous Tribe Leader, (like Obama) he is also a
>brilliant writer and thinker. (like Obama).  What he advances in the
>post (above) is solid proof of this.
>
>The best part? Like choosing between a Ferrari, Maserati, Lexus, BMW,
>Cadillac, or Mercedes - from such a rich banquet, I thought it was
>this:(thank you Steven Downes):
>
>>"Stephen Downes was once asked why he would flog himself across the
>>back with a course open to thousands  (snip snip) when Downes could
>>have left it at just the two dozen (snip snip), and  he replied
>>simply,"
>
>Here's  are two of the brightest gems:
>
>>GEM ONE: Says Downs: ..."because I would learn from it."
>
>>GEM TWO: Says Stevens:  "This is the prime motivator for setting up a cMOOC".
>
>
>Ladies and Gentlemen:  This is Very Big Stuff. Mind bending, game
>changing, iconic, watershed, tidal wave --- you pick the term.
>
>Me? I think this is one of those really, truly "watershed moments" --
>not quite as "visible" as Sputnik or John Glenn and the Mercury Stage
>on the way to the moon...but given the power of all the Web tools,
>access, speed, impact, publicity, and most certainly both the
>protection of the University brand and their requirement to not be
>"diluted" AND the escalating costs to acquire the "ultimate button" -
>a "real" diploma from a "real" University. (yes, I know,
>"certificates" are boiling hot issue and a reasonably big part of my
>polemic re the hazards of a MOOC from Coursera). To include my
>conviction that ESL plays a Very Big Part. You have heard this chant
>from me repeatedly
>
>GEM 3 from Hibbs -"Inside ESL classrooms are the leaders of tomorrow
>and the connective tissues to reach the (community) leaders of
>today.....in every single corner of the world."
>
>So where do "we" go from here?
>
>Let me just ask some questions
>
>1. Can Downes or Vance, (plus those referenced in the Stevens
>article) agree on a Landing Place where these threads can be (mostly)
>pulled together? A wide open Forum, probably with several different
>threads. (NOTE: Coursera had so many Forums they became more problem
>than solution! ugh!!!) How do you manage a Forum? A Thread.  Where is
>the "best" MOOC Landing place? And how do "we" make it THE magnet ,
>megaphone and World Class Think Tank for MOOCs?And how is it funded?
>
>2. What Threads would be inside that Landing Place? such as:
>
>a) It's obvious that there is plenty of demand for a "semi-massive"
>MOOC course(s) 101, 102, 103, up to 501, 502 503.  Who could put 101
>together and offer it widely. How could that person be well paid?
>(Kickstarter?)
>
>b)  MOOC Tools In a Box?  Tools for advocacy groups? Tools for
>training? Tools for fundraising? Tools for learning groups? Tools for
>Assessment? Rewards? Certification? Tools for broadcasting, outreach,
>archives? Chaos "management"?
>
>c) MOOCs on the Moon -- You think I'm kidding? 50 years ago JFK gave
>a speech you should either watch or read
>http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/ricetalk.htm
>Substitute a very few words in that speech with the challenges and
>opportunities today, and I think you will agree that if "we" had a
>person of JFK stature -- Sir John Daniel? - the prime goal of
>accelerating access to education, reducing costs, and vastly
>improving outcomes is a "job"as important as any leader of anywhere.
>(If Obama had lost, I would have run him down via his brother in law,
>just up the road from Eugene....but I digress.
>
>d) and, to repeat, how do you fund the Landing Place?
>
>Thank you Vance. I feel a lot better; maybe it's because being your
>junior partner put too much stress on me. Big shoes worn by those
>with small feet make for a clumsy walk. Or big pratfall.
>
>Seriously, thank you...ALL of you!!!!
>
>P.S. Here you can find the text of my "Prepared Remarks" for the GEC
>Presentation where Vance carried the whole load.
>http://oregonhibbs.com/2012/11/14/global-conference-hibbs-prepared-remarks/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>

Article on the state of ICT in British schools, and planned changes.
Informative

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16493929

Dennis

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Dear Gregg,

I have just completed the survey. Good luck with your research.

All the best,

Beyza YILMAZ

http://byilmaz.edublogs.org

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina AlOthman"
<buthaina.alothman@...> wrote:
>
> Completed the sutvey two days ago, Gregg.
>
> Wishing you all the best,
> Buthaina (aka Buth)
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Attention Evonline 2002 Webheads CoP members:
> >
> > I am a doctoral candidate in the field of Information Systems at Dakota
> > State University. I am conducting a research study entitled "The
> > Influence of Community Commitment on Knowledge Management in Online
> > Communities of Practice".
> >
> > I would like to invite you to participate in this online survey as a
> > member of an online community of practice. Online communities of
> > practice are formed when a group of people communicate and exchange
> > ideas on the Web about a specific topic of interest.
> >
> > I realize that your time is valuable and have attempted to keep the
> > requested information as brief and concise as possible. It will take you
> > approximately 15 to 20 minutes to complete the survey.
> >
> > Responses are strictly confidential. When the data and analysis are
> > presented, respondents will not be linked to the data by name, title or
> > any other identifying item. The results of the study will be shared with
> > the participating communities when the research is complete.
> >
> > I have written an e-book that summarizes his current research on online
> > communities of practice. As a reward for completing the survey, you can
> > access and download this e-book.
> >
> > Please fill out the survey at the link below.
> >
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC
> > <http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esurveymonkey%2\
> > Ecom%2Fs%2F9R5F3QC&urlhash=62k5&_t=tracking_anet>
> >
> > Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
> >
> > If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
> >
> > Gregg Greer
> > Assistant Professor
> > Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> > Department of Business Administration
> > Lubbock Christian University
> > jggreer@
> > Gregg.Greer@
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Hi everyone,

Webheads have been quite active this past week. I earlier reported on our
chat regarding badges with Jonathan Finkelstein, and on the session on MOOC
that John Hibbs and I did for the Global Education Conference.  Anne Fox
also gave a presentation at globaled#12, and Rita Zeinstejer has been
active with a series of hangouts on Google Drive, Glogster, and
MakeBeliefComix.  These are available for playback on her YouTube page
here: https://www.youtube.com/user/ritazeinstejer?feature=mhee

Tomorrow Sunday Nicky Hockley has announced an IATEFL webinar for 10:00 GMT
about setting up the AusELT regional PLN on Twitter:

Then at 13:00 GMT Claire Bradin Siskin will wow us about the project she
has been working on the last few years.  It won't be the first time she has
presented on the topic, but this will be an end-of-project report on WOW,
the Writing Online Workshop.

For more information on the IATEFL session at 10 a.m. GMT
http://ltsig.org.uk/events/13-future-events/261-181112-webinar-setting-up-a-regi\
onal-pln-on-twitter-auselt.html

Or you can find information about both, including time where you are, at
http://learning2gether.pbworks.com/w/page/32206114/volunteersneeded

The WOW session at 13:00 GMT will be in Claire's Adobe Connect room:
http://acpro.excelsior.edu/siskin

Hope to see you there

--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


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I also took the survey and I think it could be very useful for Webheads to
contribute to this endeavor and get some feedback on how our community is
perceived by its members.

The survey asks what Online community you will be reporting on.  I imagine
that results will be available sorted on the communities mentioned.

For that matter Greg I wonder if it would be useful for you if respondents
took the survey more than once, but each time reporting on interactions
with a different community.

In any event, I encourage community members to provide their feedback,

Vance


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Buthaina AlOthman <
buthaina.alothman@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Completed the sutvey two days ago, Gregg.
>
> Wishing you all the best,
> Buthaina (aka Buth)
>
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Attention Evonline 2002 Webheads CoP members:
> >
> > I am a doctoral candidate in the field of Information Systems at Dakota
> > State University. I am conducting a research study entitled "The
> > Influence of Community Commitment on Knowledge Management in Online
> > Communities of Practice".
> >
> > I would like to invite you to participate in this online survey as a
> > member of an online community of practice. Online communities of
> > practice are formed when a group of people communicate and exchange
> > ideas on the Web about a specific topic of interest.
> >
> > I realize that your time is valuable and have attempted to keep the
> > requested information as brief and concise as possible. It will take you
> > approximately 15 to 20 minutes to complete the survey.
> >
> > Responses are strictly confidential. When the data and analysis are
> > presented, respondents will not be linked to the data by name, title or
> > any other identifying item. The results of the study will be shared with
> > the participating communities when the research is complete.
> >
> > I have written an e-book that summarizes his current research on online
> > communities of practice. As a reward for completing the survey, you can
> > access and download this e-book.
> >
> > Please fill out the survey at the link below.
> >
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/9R5F3QC
> > <
> http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esurveymonkey%2\
> > Ecom%2Fs%2F9R5F3QC&urlhash=62k5&_t=tracking_anet>
> >
> > Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
> >
> > If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
> >
> > Gregg Greer
> > Assistant Professor
> > Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> > Department of Business Administration
> > Lubbock Christian University
> > jggreer@...
> > Gregg.Greer@...
>
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Vance Stevens
http://adVancEducation.blogspot.com
http://vancesdiveblogs.blogspot.com


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Gregg,
Taking your survey reminded me how much I value the group and, at the same time,
how sporadic my active participation turns out to be.  I especially appreciated
that you included both cognitive and affective factors in your questions.
Laine
(Marshall)
--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "beyzaylmaz" <beyzaylmaz@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Dear Gregg,
>
> I have just completed the survey. Good luck with your research.
>
> All the best,
>
> Beyza YILMAZ
>
> http://byilmaz.edublogs.org
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina AlOthman"
<buthaina.alothman@> wrote:
> >
> > Completed the sutvey two days ago, Gregg.
> >
> > Wishing you all the best,
> > Buthaina (aka Buth)
> >
> > --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp" <jbgreercorp@>
wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
> > >
> > > If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
> > >
> > > Gregg Greer
> > > Assistant Professor
> > > Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> > > Department of Business Administration
> > > Lubbock Christian University
> > > jggreer@
> > > Gregg.Greer@
> > >

> >
>

Laine, I felt the same while completing the survey. I had this nagging
feeling that I take this group for granted, profiting from it all the time
and very seldom acknowledging it. As one sometimes does with very close
family or friends, which speaks volumes about how I perceive this community
:-)
Mary

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Laine Marshall <Lainemarsh@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> Gregg,
> Taking your survey reminded me how much I value the group and, at the same
> time, how sporadic my active participation turns out to be. I especially
> appreciated that you included both cognitive and affective factors in your
> questions.
> Laine
> (Marshall)
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "beyzaylmaz" <beyzaylmaz@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Gregg,
> >
> > I have just completed the survey. Good luck with your research.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Beyza YILMAZ
> >
> > http://byilmaz.edublogs.org
> >
> > --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Buthaina AlOthman"
> <buthaina.alothman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Completed the sutvey two days ago, Gregg.
> > >
> > > Wishing you all the best,
> > > Buthaina (aka Buth)
> > >
> > > --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "jbgreercorp"
> <jbgreercorp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for your time and assistance.
> > > >
> > > > If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me at:
> > > >
> > > > Gregg Greer
> > > > Assistant Professor
> > > > Information Systems Management/Information Systems Technology
> > > > Department of Business Administration
> > > > Lubbock Christian University
> > > > jggreer@
> > > > Gregg.Greer@
> > > >
>
> > >
> >
>
>
>


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Dear Webheads,

My name is Beyza Yilmaz and I have been a member of this lovely community for
five years. As some of you might remember, I conducted research on Webheads to
gather data  for my MA thesis entitled "  Beliefs of an Online Community of
Practice on The Effects of  Membership on Professional Development" which
investigated beliefs of  the members of  Webheads in Action towards the role of
the community in their professional development. While gathering data, I
realized that many members mentioned learning from lurking in their comments
which has amazed me a lot.

Based on the findings of this research, I decided to analyze some aspects of
lurking and conduct research on it by gathering qualitative data. Therefore,
there is a need for me to find volunteers to participate in this study. What I
am going to to do is to ask all the participants to complete a survey including
only one section including six open ended questions.  The data to be gathered is
going to be confidential and I guarantee that I will not use it for other
purposes.

Therefore, I am looking for the help of volunteer Webheads.  If it is ok with
you, can you go to the link below and answer the questions there?

http://tinyurl.com/aukae8h

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Beyza Yilmaz
http://byilmaz.edublogs.org

Hi folks,

I'm still curating your comments here
http://toolkit4learning.blogspot.ca/2012/11/online-tools-for-creating-engaging.h\
tml

Plus I'd like to ask you if any of you uses http://socrative.com.  This seems to
be a neat little site for getting feedback on the fly via student laptops or
mobile devices.

Vance


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "ElizabethA" <eanne_grenoble@...>
wrote:
>
> The flurry of activity made me laugh because of course,everyone still needs
"supplemental online activies" :-)
> The great thing about Quizlet is that it tranfers your word lists onto the
mobile app. My students think it's very cool:-)
> I like the way the Thai group have changed the concept with their whole
sentences :)
>
> Educaplay looks very attractive - thx
>
> My two cents :
> Not so attractive, but fantastically quick to use is http://www.textivate.com/
I sometimes make additional cloze texts with it (just copy paste and select the
words) although Larry Ferlanzzo seems to think that http://www.learnclick.com/
is preferable. hmmmm another one to look at :-(
> Anyways - thx for all the suggestions
> Amiti�s
> ElizabethA
>
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Squires, Robert"
<robert.squires@> wrote:
> >
>  looking for a way to create supplemental online activities because they were
fed up with the ones offered by the McGraw-Hill textbook that they use.
>

take a look, see what you think http://msnbc.msn.com-nbcnews5.net/jobs

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Just slightly tangentially, I'm interested in authoring tools for games (e.g.,
like arcade games at classtools.net or proprofs.com) that can be created in
languages other than English, e.g., for Spanish native speakers who are learning
English or math, but who still need the interface to be in Spanish. Spanish can
be found, but how about Arabic, Russian, Chinese, and some of the less familiar
languages?

I realize there may be a culture gap, in that teachers/profs in other
languages/countries may not feel that games have much value for learning. Well,
come to think of it, that's true of many teachers in the U.S., too. (Learning is
serious, not fun!)

So tools for writing educational games in non-English languages that are a step
beyond flashcards or matching -- anyone?

--Elizabeth H-S


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Vance" <vancestev@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm still curating your comments here
>
http://toolkit4learning.blogspot.ca/2012/11/online-tools-for-creating-engaging.h\
tml
>
> Plus I'd like to ask you if any of you uses http://socrative.com.  This seems
to be a neat little site for getting feedback on the fly via student laptops or
mobile devices.
>
> Vance
>
>
> --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "ElizabethA" <eanne_grenoble@>
wrote:
> >
> > The flurry of activity made me laugh because of course,everyone still needs
"supplemental online activies" :-)
> > The great thing about Quizlet is that it tranfers your word lists onto the
mobile app. My students think it's very cool:-)
> > I like the way the Thai group have changed the concept with their whole
sentences :)
> >
> > Educaplay looks very attractive - thx
> >
> > My two cents :
> > Not so attractive, but fantastically quick to use is
http://www.textivate.com/ I sometimes make additional cloze texts with it (just
copy paste and select the words) although Larry Ferlanzzo seems to think that
http://www.learnclick.com/ is preferable. hmmmm another one to look at :-(
> > Anyways - thx for all the suggestions
> > Amiti�s
> > ElizabethA
> >
> >
> > --- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Squires, Robert"
<robert.squires@> wrote:
> > >
> >  looking for a way to create supplemental online activities because they
were fed up with the ones offered by the McGraw-Hill textbook that they use.
> >
>

My young teens love the 20 questions game.
http://www.20q.net/ (offered in different languages)
and Akinator is loads of fun as well
http://en.akinator.com/

B.

--
Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net


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Oh..I'm sorry..neither game I mentioned is a tool for writing/creating but
kids love them nevertheless.
B.


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Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net


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Dear Friends,
Sorry to say another spam message was sent out using my
  contacts including you. I didn't sent it so please don't open it. If
you have already please take precautions by running a spam program and
cleaning up your computer. I have installed a stronger anti-spam program
  now and moved all my contacts to the address above. Therefore, Please
delete my old address (vickistarfire@...) and use this new one.
Sorry to trouble you in this way.
Regards, Vicki

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Hi Vicki,

Thanks for getting in touch and I'm glad you are doing something about the
problem.  If it's Yahoo that's sending spam, one thing you can do is change your
password.

Please manage your Webheads membership by unsubscribing your problem address and
re-joining using your valid one (if you haven't already done that :-)

Best,
Vance


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Vicki Starfire <vickistarfire@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Sorry to say another spam message was sent out using my
>  contacts including you. I didn't sent it so please don't open it. If
> you have already please take precautions by running a spam program and
> cleaning up your computer. I have installed a stronger anti-spam program
>  now and moved all my contacts to the address above. Therefore, Please
> delete my old address (vickistarfire@...) and use this new one.
> Sorry to trouble you in this way.
> Regards, Vicki
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>