Aiden, This is the link:

http://innovateonline.info/index.php

Daf



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Hi, Rita! I'm Doris from Venezuela. My students are finishing their
trimester in two weeks. Their final project is to showcase their work
during the semester in a blog. I'd be great if students from the world
could drop by and leave a message. We are also starting a new trimester
in three weeks. I'm planning to have my students open their blogs from
the begining so we could participate in this project with you guys! Hope
we can learn, share and have lots of F.U.N together.

Right now I have 13 groups... they are basic and low intermediate
students from Universidad Dr. Rafael Belloso Chacin
<http://www.urbe.edu/>   in Maracaibo.  I think next trimester I'll have
the same number of groups.

Here you can visit our class blog "Doris3m Efl Center
<http://www.doris3meflcenter.blogspot.com/>  "

Looking forward to working together! A warm hug and keep on shining!




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Thanks!

A.

Dafne <dygonza@...> wrote:                                  Aiden, This is
the link:

  http://innovateonline.info/index.php

  Daf

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Great article, Elizabeth.  I see both my children, who are 9 and 13,
as well as my students being in the Net Geners group, as described in
the article.  It definately poses some challenges for us as educators,
but if anyone can face such challenges- the webheads can!  :-)

Paula

P.S.  It was so great to see you and everyone in Seattle.  I'm still
happy and haven't come down yet from the warmth, comaraderie, and fun
that we had.  Huge hugs and backrubs!


> Thought this free online journal's issue might be of interest to
some.
> --Elizabeth
>
> The April/May issue of Innovate focuses on the Net Generation, a
generation that grew up with video games, computers, and the Internet.

Hi dear Elizabeth and all!

   Thank you so much for the reference. It is very important to me as a mother, a
teacher and a researcher. My 3-year-old baby girl has already learned how to use
the mouse, click and play with pages like www.nickjr.com,
www.tudiscoverykids.com, www.sesameworkshop.org and others. My husband and I are
really amazed!

   Several weeks ago, Dafne and I were chatting and she placed the emoticons with
the mouse. Last week, I was chatting with a student of mine who also had a young
kid next to her. Well, both kids didn't allow us to chat until they both chatted
too (just using the microphone and the camera, of course). My daughter doesn't
know how to read or write, but she learned that when I want to do some Web
searching I click on the Internet Explorer icon. Well, she does the same thing.
She clicks on the icon and waits until Google' page pops up. She pretends being
typing her name in the blank space. It's so funny! After that, I realized that I
have a Net kid!  Every night, when she sees me in front of the computer, she
inmediately starts struggling for having the chance to play.

   I wonder if we are talking about the Net generation entering universities,
what to say about my daughter who just celebrated her third birthday in January,
and plays her favorite movies in the DVD, turns on/off the TV, turns the volume
up and down, and changes the TV channels with the remote control. She doen't use
the microwave oven yet because I don't allow her to touch anything in the
kitchen. What comes next?  Oh, my God!

   Evelyn



Dr Elizabeth Hanson-Smith <ehansonsmi@...> escribió:
           Thought this free online journal's issue might be of interest to some.
--Elizabeth

The April/May issue of Innovate focuses on the Net Generation, a generation that
grew up with video games, computers, and the Internet. The expectations,
attitudes, and fluency with technology of this new generation present both a
challenge and an opportunity for educators. In this special issue of Innovate,
guest edited by Chris Davis, we examine how educators and educational systems
can respond to the challenge and leverage the opportunity.

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Evelyn Izquierdo
Profesora de Inglés
Escuela de Educación
Facultad de Humanidades y Educación
Universidad Central de Venezuela
Tel: 605.2974 / 2975
E-mail: izquierdo_evelyn@...

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Dear Rita, I've peeped into the moodle and into the wiki and I love the idea.
I've got one BIG problem though - my current course ends in the beginning of May
and another one begins in October. I'm studentless from May to September : - (.
Can I still be part of this?

Dear Jane, I'm interested in the 'fall' blogging project.



Warmly,

Sasha



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REMINDER: Call for Participation for WiaOC 2007

CONNECT: a free synchronous and asynchronous online conference for
teachers and education professionals

May 18–20, 2007

Deadlne extended to April 17, 2007

With apologies for cross-postings ...

This is a reminder that Webheads in Action <http://webheads.info> has
invited you to participate in CONNECT: Conversations on Networking,
Education, Communities, and Technology, a unique conference to be held
entirely online May 18–20, 2007. More information is available at
<http://wiaoc.org> or <http://www.wiaoc.org>, and our first completely
free online global convergence can be replayed at: <http://2005.wiaoc.org>

The deadline for proposals for presentations has been extended to
April 17, 2007.

The original CfP can be found at http://cfp.wiaoc.org. The following
information can be found at that URL.

Proposals are invited for synchronous events, asynchronous events, or
combinations of the two. Session topics can be pedagogical or
technical, and might include examples of practical work with students,
training sessions, reports of research or research in progress,
demonstrations of new media, or descriptions or explorations of how
interaction takes place over the Internet—e.g., how online communities
form as a result of computer-mediated communication.

Synchronous events (including, but not limited to presentations,
demonstrations, panel / roundtable discussions, chats and
conversations) can be held at any of our partners' voice-enabled
presentation portals, or one of your own choosing. Training and
assistance will be available for presenters wishing to use our
partners' venues.

Asynchronous events might include bulletin board discussions, online
poster sessions, integration with content management systems, or other
formats.

To create a proposal, first register at the convergence proposal site
http://wiaoc.prof2000.pt/ (don't worry if this site still has the old
deadline, the extension is valid)

Remember your ID and password there, because once you have registered,
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Tagged artifacts will be aggregated during and around the time of this
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Please check our websites for information on registering for the
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We look forward to interacting with you at the WiAOC 2007: CONNECT
free online convergence.

Please feel free to distribute this notice to your colleagues as you
see fit

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This memo from the CEO of Talkr.com sounds like it is going to be of interest to
voice conferencing.

BTW, I have been trying unsuccessfully to get Talkr to read the entire post at
my blog, Virtual=Real. Some posts do read, others read only the title:

<http://ehansonsmith.blogspot.com/>

I think a spoken blog with the text would be a nice feature for EFL learners.
--Elizabeth H-S


LiveOnTheNet is rolling out the beta version of Talkr's revolutionary instant
voice conference widget.
First, its free!  In the future, we intend to support these conversations with
audio advertising and, of course, share that revenue with bloggers.
     Second, it easy!  Talkr's blog widget requires no download of any sort and
lets users create, find and join free live VOIP conference calls.
   Bloggers can post these voice widgets on their blogs and create free live
chats on topics of interest to their audience.  A single conference call's
widget can also be placed on many different blogs, so groups of bloggers can
collaborate on chats on broad subjects.
         There will be new functionality arriving soon that allows Talkr's
instant voice conferencing to be used on MySpace and other sites that don't
allow applets.  Then we'll release features that will appeal to other online
communities.

We're looking forward to, even counting on, your feedback, so please tell us
what you like, don't like, want to see, etc.  You can check it out at
new.talkr.com and please email me directly with your thoughts.


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Dear Webheads,

I'm taking a short break in Malaysia, cashing in on a ticket I won in
a lucky draw.

If I'm not there on Sunday for our noon gmt gathering it would mean
either I can't get on Internet or i forgot it was Sunday ;-)

Having F.U.N.

Vance

Congratulations vance!
Have a nice break.
I am off to Edinburgh for a computer free weekend!
beijinhos
Cris

Vance Stevens <vstevens@...> escreveu:
Dear Webheads,

  I'm taking a short break in Malaysia, cashing in on a ticket I won in
  a lucky draw.

  If I'm not there on Sunday for our noon gmt gathering it would mean
  either I can't get on Internet or i forgot it was Sunday ;-)

  Having F.U.N.

  Vance






Cris


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I just checked the same article out.. but from following another
thread. I'm currently finishing an MA (Open U) in Distance Ed..
current focus is on "innovations in eLearning" and we've been looking
at Blogs.. which has led me to "social networking".. .which had led me
to the article.

Wow.. it feels like deja vu. I've got two teenagers.. both heavy users
of IM.. but one is into Bebo (UK equivalent of MySpace) and after
reading this article.. I took a moment to ask her for a "guided tour".
Highly recommended folks. What I thought would be a 15 minute tour ..
turned into almost two hours. What I had assumed to be a pretty simple
and fun tool opened my ideas to the complexity of the interactions,
the care in grooming a "digital identity", the attention to building
and maintaining these "digital communities" that today's teens are
realizing with such a "simple tool".

I also read Stephen Downes' piece on Blogging and it was equally
interesting.

The $64,000 Question: How do we educators wrestle with incorporating
such technologies that are "in" with today's Net Gen .. and at the
same time, work within the restrictions often imposed on us by
educational systems?

Cheers


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Evelyn Izquierdo
<izquierdo_evelyn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi dear Elizabeth and all!
>
>   Thank you so much for the reference. It is very important to me as
a mother, a teacher and a researcher. My 3-year-old baby girl has
already learned how to use the mouse, click and play with pages like
www.nickjr.com, www.tudiscoverykids.com, www.sesameworkshop.org and
others. My husband and I are really amazed!
>
>   Several weeks ago, Dafne and I were chatting and she placed the
emoticons with the mouse. Last week, I was chatting with a student of
mine who also had a young kid next to her. Well, both kids didn't
allow us to chat until they both chatted too (just using the
microphone and the camera, of course). My daughter doesn't know how to
read or write, but she learned that when I want to do some Web
searching I click on the Internet Explorer icon. Well, she does the
same thing. She clicks on the icon and waits until Google' page pops
up. She pretends being typing her name in the blank space. It's so
funny! After that, I realized that I have a Net kid!  Every night,
when she sees me in front of the computer, she inmediately starts
struggling for having the chance to play.
>
>   I wonder if we are talking about the Net generation entering
universities, what to say about my daughter who just celebrated her
third birthday in January, and plays her favorite movies in the DVD,
turns on/off the TV, turns the volume up and down, and changes the TV
channels with the remote control. She doen't use the microwave oven
yet because I don't allow her to touch anything in the kitchen. What
comes next?  Oh, my God!
>
>   Evelyn
>
>
>
> Dr Elizabeth Hanson-Smith <ehansonsmi@...> escribió:
>           Thought this free online journal's issue might be of
interest to some.
> --Elizabeth
>
> The April/May issue of Innovate focuses on the Net Generation, a
generation that grew up with video games, computers, and the Internet.
The expectations, attitudes, and fluency with technology of this new
generation present both a challenge and an opportunity for educators.
In this special issue of Innovate, guest edited by Chris Davis, we
examine how educators and educational systems can respond to the
challenge and leverage the opportunity.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Evelyn Izquierdo
> Profesora de Inglés
> Escuela de Educación
> Facultad de Humanidades y Educación
> Universidad Central de Venezuela
> Tel: 605.2974 / 2975
> E-mail: izquierdo_evelyn@...
>
>  __________________________________________________
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Jim,

>Wow.. it feels like deja vu. I've got two teenagers.. both heavy users
of IM.. but one is into Bebo (UK equivalent of MySpace) and after
reading this article.. I took a moment to ask her for a "guided tour".
Highly recommended folks. What I thought would be a 15 minute tour ..
turned into almost two hours. What I had assumed to be a pretty simple
and fun tool opened my ideas to the complexity of the interactions,
the care in grooming a "digital identity", the attention to building
and maintaining these "digital communities" that today's teens are
realizing with such a "simple tool".

<snip>

>The $64,000 Question: How do we educators wrestle with incorporating
such technologies that are "in" with today's Net Gen

I think you just took one of the first, best steps - asking your teenage
kids to show you what they actually do online and how they do it! One of the
things we (as in we adults involved in education) have to realise is that we
live and work in a situation which has built-in tensions: education at the
moment is top-down - adults at the top design the curriculums and adults in
the middle implement them to youngsters down below. However, what we're
*supposed* to be doing is prepare those youngsters for the real world, and
they are far more in touch with their real world than most adults can be, or
at least are at the moment. One of the more enlightening experiences I had
on that front was a few years ago at the Online Educa in Germany. It's a big
exhibition and conference about online education, with, predictably enough,
lots of adults giving talks. The one session that stood out to me was one in
which a couple of high school teachers got their kids up on stage for a Q&A
session, with the adults in the audience asking the kids questions. After a
couple of days of talks on educational theory and technological hoo-ha it
was great. The kids talked about the technology like we in our day would
have talked about books, or chalk. Of course they used laptops; yes, their
schools had electronic whiteboards. So? What was all the ruckus about? After
that was got out of the way the next 40 minutes or so was spent with them
talking about their use of social networking tools, primarily MSN and
myspace.

I think what we need to do is acknowledge that kids are using technology in
different ways than we might predict or assume (remember what they say about
assumptions...), and try to find out how they actually use it. That's not to
say that we then should incorporate their way of doing things into our
teaching - we might choose to if it makes sense and is useful, but I don't
think we should force it. Kids will always have their own lives (whether
it's to do with how they use technology, what sports they play, what they
watch on TV etc) and we won't always be able to integrate their lives in our
classrooms, but it can never hurt to find out exactly what it is they're up
to :-)

Eric

Folks,

There's an interesting debate going on over on the SLED (Second Life
Educators) list about digital immigrants and natives, with lost of people
not approving of the terminology for various reasons - but I'm taking the
liberty of posting a little of one posting which I found very interesting:

"out of a recent class of 11 under-grad students I asked to write blogs,
only one had previously kept a blog. Several used their first post as an
opportunity to vent their spleens about how much they disliked blogs. ..

- A recent UK survey found that almost 1 in 5 children play digital games
less than once every two weeks.

- One of the first posts on my blog was a link to a piece where a tutor
discovered to his surprise that a group of his students simply did not like
using the internet.

- A BBC Newsround piece on games for learning in the classroom had quotes
from many children who didn't see why games should be used for teaching and
(without being given  examples of why it could be good) argued that they
spent enough time playing games without playing them in school too. "

Gavin



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From: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Baber
Sent: 05 April 2007 14:05
To: evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [evonline2002_webheads] Re: The Net Generation



Hi Jim,

>Wow.. it feels like deja vu. I've got two teenagers.. both heavy users
of IM.. but one is into Bebo (UK equivalent of MySpace) and after
reading this article.. I took a moment to ask her for a "guided tour".
Highly recommended folks. What I thought would be a 15 minute tour ..
turned into almost two hours. What I had assumed to be a pretty simple
and fun tool opened my ideas to the complexity of the interactions,
the care in grooming a "digital identity", the attention to building
and maintaining these "digital communities" that today's teens are
realizing with such a "simple tool".

<snip>

>The $64,000 Question: How do we educators wrestle with incorporating
such technologies that are "in" with today's Net Gen

I think you just took one of the first, best steps - asking your teenage
kids to show you what they actually do online and how they do it! One of the

things we (as in we adults involved in education) have to realise is that we

live and work in a situation which has built-in tensions: education at the
moment is top-down - adults at the top design the curriculums and adults in
the middle implement them to youngsters down below. However, what we're
*supposed* to be doing is prepare those youngsters for the real world, and
they are far more in touch with their real world than most adults can be, or

at least are at the moment. One of the more enlightening experiences I had
on that front was a few years ago at the Online Educa in Germany. It's a big

exhibition and conference about online education, with, predictably enough,
lots of adults giving talks. The one session that stood out to me was one in

which a couple of high school teachers got their kids up on stage for a Q&A
session, with the adults in the audience asking the kids questions. After a
couple of days of talks on educational theory and technological hoo-ha it
was great. The kids talked about the technology like we in our day would
have talked about books, or chalk. Of course they used laptops; yes, their
schools had electronic whiteboards. So? What was all the ruckus about? After

that was got out of the way the next 40 minutes or so was spent with them
talking about their use of social networking tools, primarily MSN and
myspace.

I think what we need to do is acknowledge that kids are using technology in
different ways than we might predict or assume (remember what they say about

assumptions.-..), and try to find out how they actually use it. That's not
to
say that we then should incorporate their way of doing things into our
teaching - we might choose to if it makes sense and is useful, but I don't
think we should force it. Kids will always have their own lives (whether
it's to do with how they use technology, what sports they play, what they
watch on TV etc) and we won't always be able to integrate their lives in our

classrooms, but it can never hurt to find out exactly what it is they're up
to :-)

Eric






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Me, too, guys! I'm not even going to take the laptop so that I don't get
tempted to use the computer! I'm heading off to Miami today for a
computerless weekend with the family!

Have a wonderful Easter, you all!

Have I ever told you how much I enjoyed seeing you all and keep interacting
with others online during the TESOL conference? As Paula Emmert mentioned, I
can still feel the Webheads' warmth and fun and F.U.N!
Vance, I loved having some time for a coffee with you on the last day.

I guess Easter is a time to thank for all the special moments this Community
has provided us all!

Thanks!

Beijos,
Carla

On 4/5/07, cristina costa <cristinacosta_pt@...> wrote:
>
>   Congratulations vance!
> Have a nice break.
> I am off to Edinburgh for a computer free weekend!
> beijinhos
> Cris
>
> Vance Stevens <vstevens@... <vstevens%40emirates.net.ae>>
> escreveu: Dear Webheads,
>
> I'm taking a short break in Malaysia, cashing in on a ticket I won in
> a lucky draw.
>
> If I'm not there on Sunday for our noon gmt gathering it would mean
> either I can't get on Internet or i forgot it was Sunday ;-)
>
> Having F.U.N.
>
> Vance
>
>
>
>
>
> Cris
>
> __________________________________________________
> Fale com seus amigos de graça com o novo Yahoo! Messenger
> http://br.messenger.yahoo.com/
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Dear all,

My best wishes for Easter are here
http://brazilnaskeywest.wordpress.com/

Also, you can see some photos of St. Patrick's in Key West. Just now I was
able to organize them!

Beijos,
Carla

sorry for cross-posting...


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Dear Sasha, Rita and all,

   I peeked at the moodle too and also love the idea, although like Sasha, my
courses are winding down now--there are still five or six weeks before the final
exams, but I only see the students once a week and the course is quite packed
from now until then. I'll see what I can do though.

   And Sasha, I'd love to collaborate in the fall...by the way, I have very fond
memories of Slovenia from when I taught in Slavonia (in Osijek to be precise).
My husband and I welcomed the New Year of 1985 in enchanting Bled.

   Jane


   Dear Rita, I've peeped into the moodle and into the wiki and I love the idea.
I've got one BIG problem though - my current course ends in the beginning of May
and another one begins in October. I'm studentless from May to September : - (.
Can I still be part of this?

Dear Jane, I'm interested in the 'fall' blogging project.

Warmly,

Sasha




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Thanks Carla. Happy easter to you too.
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Jane,
Maybe we can collaborate in the fall semester.  I am not sure yet
which class I will be teaching, but it may be the same (fairly)
advanced semi-intensive class (students already enrolled in some
credit classes at UMD).  I have not had much luck getting them to buy
into the blog thing this semester, but maybe if there were a
colaborative element the next group might be better.  Let's talk!
Nina

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Jane Petring
<want2no7@...> wrote:
>
> Rita (or anyone else),
>
>   My students would love to have some comments from students in
other parts of the world. Our session is beginning to wind down--we
finish in mid-May, but the schedule is pretty tight from now until the
end. My students are college age (18 and up). In my low-intermediate
group the blogging project has revolved around a TV journal where the
students choose a TV show and write summaries, reactions, etc to the
show. This project has worked very well--you will find links to the
individual students' blogs in the right sidebar (there are two groups
for Winter 2007, one in Longueuil and the other at ENA, the
aeronautical campus); I put their first names and the TV show they chose:
>   http://www.englishcedblog.blogspot.com/
>
>   With my advanced students, we have been using Maclean's magazine
(a Canadian weekly) as a springboard for discussions. Students have
had formal assignments to turn it, but I have encouraged them to use
the blog to share some of their reflections. I always include a link
to the specific articles in my post, so it's possible for outsiders to
read the article they are responding to. Again there are two groups
for Winter 2007 from the two campuses:
>   http://www.englishcefblog.blogspot.com/
>
>   Rita, or anyone else, I'd love to plan a truly collaborative
project with students around the world for next fall if anyone is
interested.
>
>   Jane
>
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Jim
   Perhaps it is not exactly down your line, but you might check out my
Spanish-English blog at
   http://jaquematepress.blogia.com

   Your comments are welcome!

   Alfred
   <james.buckingham@...> escribió:
           I just checked the same article out.. but from following another
thread. I'm currently finishing an MA (Open U) in Distance Ed..
current focus is on "innovations in eLearning" and we've been looking
at Blogs.. which has led me to "social networking".. .which had led me
to the article.

Wow.. it feels like deja vu. I've got two teenagers.. both heavy users
of IM.. but one is into Bebo (UK equivalent of MySpace) and after
reading this article.. I took a moment to ask her for a "guided tour".
Highly recommended folks. What I thought would be a 15 minute tour ..
turned into almost two hours. What I had assumed to be a pretty simple
and fun tool opened my ideas to the complexity of the interactions,
the care in grooming a "digital identity", the attention to building
and maintaining these "digital communities" that today's teens are
realizing with such a "simple tool".

I also read Stephen Downes' piece on Blogging and it was equally
interesting.

The $64,000 Question: How do we educators wrestle with incorporating
such technologies that are "in" with today's Net Gen .. and at the
same time, work within the restrictions often imposed on us by
educational systems?

Cheers

--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Evelyn Izquierdo
<izquierdo_evelyn@...> wrote:
>
> Hi dear Elizabeth and all!
>
> Thank you so much for the reference. It is very important to me as
a mother, a teacher and a researcher. My 3-year-old baby girl has
already learned how to use the mouse, click and play with pages like
www.nickjr.com, www.tudiscoverykids.com, www.sesameworkshop.org and
others. My husband and I are really amazed!
>
> Several weeks ago, Dafne and I were chatting and she placed the
emoticons with the mouse. Last week, I was chatting with a student of
mine who also had a young kid next to her. Well, both kids didn't
allow us to chat until they both chatted too (just using the
microphone and the camera, of course). My daughter doesn't know how to
read or write, but she learned that when I want to do some Web
searching I click on the Internet Explorer icon. Well, she does the
same thing. She clicks on the icon and waits until Google' page pops
up. She pretends being typing her name in the blank space. It's so
funny! After that, I realized that I have a Net kid! Every night,
when she sees me in front of the computer, she inmediately starts
struggling for having the chance to play.
>
> I wonder if we are talking about the Net generation entering
universities, what to say about my daughter who just celebrated her
third birthday in January, and plays her favorite movies in the DVD,
turns on/off the TV, turns the volume up and down, and changes the TV
channels with the remote control. She doen't use the microwave oven
yet because I don't allow her to touch anything in the kitchen. What
comes next? Oh, my God!
>
> Evelyn
>
>
>
> Dr Elizabeth Hanson-Smith <ehansonsmi@...> escribió:
> Thought this free online journal's issue might be of
interest to some.
> --Elizabeth
>
> The April/May issue of Innovate focuses on the Net Generation, a
generation that grew up with video games, computers, and the Internet.
The expectations, attitudes, and fluency with technology of this new
generation present both a challenge and an opportunity for educators.
In this special issue of Innovate, guest edited by Chris Davis, we
examine how educators and educational systems can respond to the
challenge and leverage the opportunity.
>
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> Evelyn Izquierdo
> Profesora de Inglés
> Escuela de Educación
> Facultad de Humanidades y Educación
> Universidad Central de Venezuela
> Tel: 605.2974 / 2975
> E-mail: izquierdo_evelyn@...
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As a follow on to our discussion of e-portfolios, this article from EduCause is
nice because it also includes some drawbacks.

Cheers--
--Elizabeth




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At 12:28 PM 4/5/2007, Eliz HS wrote:

>This memo from the CEO of Talkr.com sounds like it is going to be of
>interest to voice conferencing.
>
>BTW, I have been trying unsuccessfully to get Talkr to read the
>entire post at my blog, Virtual=Real. Some posts do read, others
>read only the title:
>
><<http://ehansonsmith.blogspot.com/>http://ehansonsmith.blogspot.com/>
>
>I think a spoken blog with the text would be a nice feature for EFL learners.
>--Elizabeth H-S

I agree, as I'm sure most of us here would. But how do we reconcile
this kind of information that keeps appearing from the 'cognitive
overload' camp? See
<http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/powerpoint-presentations-a-disaster/2007/\
04/03/1175366240499.html>this
article about the disadvantage of reading and listening at the same
time. Or is the language learning context different?

- Michael.



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Goodd questions, Michael.I have not done an exhaustive lieterature review,
but I did find a PowerPoint (ironic?) with John Sweller, the expert cited
in the article, included in thearticle. The bit I found in that article
was very worthwhile (
http://www.ou.nl/Docs/Expertise/OTEC/Nieuws/icleps%20conferentie/5%20Paul%20Ayre\
s.ppt#256,1,
[Do a Google on "John Sweller" PowerPoint if that URL doesn't work] In the
article they (I suspect Sweller is the graduate advisor to the other
authors)talk about the use of animation vs static display and emphasize
reducing the amount of new items a learner is subjected to (they cite 7 as
optimal) at the same time valuing CAI where the student can control the
rate of delivery. Much of this work done seems to involve complex problems
like algebra. Of course, language learnning is a very complex process too.
The cognitive load theor has been around since 1985 so I imagine their
must be a wealth of studies analyzing its worth and how it may apply to
language learning. From the bit I've read in this one PowerPoint, it seems
to suggest that if you gave students a small blog to read with a player
that could stop and start the audio, there might be more value than just a
player that started and the learner had no control over.
I haven't had a chance to look at Talkr yet. This is an exciting time with
promising technologies coming to the forefront are different than what
e've had in te past and I think that we may need to design our own action
research to determine their efficacy and not assuming that "the book has
already been written" The cognitive load theory appears to hae some
valuable insights for designing CAI. Those who ae practitioners also have
something to say too as they see what works and doesn't work in their
classrooms.
Bruce Moon
Rio Linda, CA
>>I think a spoken blog with the text would be a nice feature for EFL
>> learners.
>>--Elizabeth H-S
>
> I agree, as I'm sure most of us here would. But how do we reconcile
> this kind of information that keeps appearing from the 'cognitive
> overload' camp? See
>
<http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/powerpoint-presentations-a-disaster/2007/\
04/03/1175366240499.html>this
> article about the disadvantage of reading and listening at the same
> time. Or is the language learning context different?
>
> - Michael.
>
>
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>

Good morning from Lisbon, Elizabeth!

Could you send the URL for the article, please?

Hugs,   Teresa




> As a follow on to our discussion of e-portfolios, this article from
> EduCause is nice because it also includes some drawbacks.
>
> Cheers--
> --Elizabeth

Dear group,

Here in Italy they are reading INNOVATE, too....nice to know... here is
the discussion for those of you who understand a little Italian or
Spanish!
http://www.lte-unifi.net/elgg/_weblog/everyone.php

There were some comments on this recent issue on the Net Geners,
comparing students here in Italy to those in North America.  Antonio
Fini, university professor at the University of Florence made the below
statements...to which I replied.  He says that:

"Un momento però, è necessario precisare che nell'articolo si
parla dei giovani statunitensi e canadesi! Ecco il punto: mi chiedo
infatti se, qui da noi, esiste questo tipo di Net-gen? E se esiste, la
pensa allo stesso modo, riguardo all'educazione? Possibile che tutti
i secchioni si siano improvvisamente trasferiti in America e a noialtri
abbiano lasciato qui soltanto lazzaroni dediti alla discoteca, ai
reality e alle riprese di sederi e sherzacci con il videofonino?"

It is necessary to clarify that the rticle talks about young Americans!
This is my point: I wonder if here this type of Net gen exists?  If so,
does it think in the same way with regards to education?  Is it possible
that all the studious ones have been suddenly transferred to America and
we have been left with the lazy students didicated to going to discos,
reality shows and to cell phone
videos...?

I wrote him back discussing the difference between the American and
Italian educational system:  the main difference lies in the high
schools.  Here in Italy they are really tough to get through:

     * students are easily flunked and have to start the whole year over
to continue

     * to get a diploma it takes 5 years with tough state exams at the end
     * emphasis is on the class and not the individual student
     * there are no incentives for students to take on more challanging
subjects (thus gaining more credits towards diploma)
     * at 14, students must choose a high school in a specialized field,
ie. science/math, art, language, tecnical, tourism, classsical.... one
who unwisely chooses can waste time at a very crucial age
It is difficult to pass here in Italy...feels to me, educated in the
States, like education is for the elite and not for everyone.  Old world
thinking in the midst of new world learning times!!

that is my 2 cents for the day.  However, when I responded to Fini in
the university blog, he was very interested in what I said and wanted me
to continue the discussion....who knows, maybe we can DO SOMETHING TO
MAKE IMPROVEMENTS!!!!

Susan!






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Hi,
I am looking for somone who is passionate about blogs to write an
article on how it can facilitate reading for EFL students. The article
needs to be sent for editing by the first week of May. It will appear
in the Etni Rag: http://www.etni.org/etnirag/issue1.htm and
http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ at the Etni (English Teachers Network of
Israel)Web site: http://www.etni.org/

Thank you.
Nellie

I read Evelyn's description of the things her daugther does with the
different electronic devices she has at home. While reading, I started
comparing three generations attitude towards these things: myself, my
kids and my grandchilren.
I have to read the instructions, and go back to them many times; my
kids read them just once, and everything works fine, my granchildren
can't read yet and they make things work, especially the computer and
conections to the internet.  They know where the bookmark is in the
two different browsers I have in my PC: Explorer and Mozilla.
I think that what we should be aware of is that these kids will manage
these divices properly but they will need lots of physical activities
as their muscles may weaking due to the lack of effort.
Greetings and Happy Easter to all of you, from cloudy Valencia, Venezuela,
Maria Irene

Dear Tere:

   I think Elizabeth referred to this article:

   http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ELI7004.pdf

   My warmest regards from Caracas-Venezuela.
   Evelyn


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Sorry Tere--
I don't know if it's the absent-minded professor, or the gremlins of
Yahooland.
<http://www.educause.edu/content.asp?page_id=666&ID=ELI7004&bhcp=1>
--Elizabeth


--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, "Teresa Almeida d'Eca"
<tmvaz@...> wrote:
>
> Good morning from Lisbon, Elizabeth!
>
> Could you send the URL for the article, please?
>
> Hugs,   Teresa
>
>
>
>
> > As a follow on to our discussion of e-portfolios, this article from
> > EduCause is nice because it also includes some drawbacks.
> >
> > Cheers--
> > --Elizabeth
>

I think it is reconciled by the idea that students of language would
be interested in hearing how the post sounds after they have read it
over.

People trying to comprehend complex factual information--as in the
business situation described in the article--would probably do better
to read it and maybe not hear it, but students trying to understand
how a language sounds have a different need.

The problem, of course is with how well the text-to-speech device works.

--Elizabeth

PS: Has anyone succeeded in using Talkr with Blogspot or other blog?




--- In evonline2002_webheads@yahoogroups.com, Michael Coghlan
<michaelc@...> wrote:
>
> At 12:28 PM 4/5/2007, Eliz HS wrote:
>
> >This memo from the CEO of Talkr.com sounds like it is going to be of
> >interest to voice conferencing.
> >
> >BTW, I have been trying unsuccessfully to get Talkr to read the
> >entire post at my blog, Virtual=Real. Some posts do read, others
> >read only the title:
> >
> ><<http://ehansonsmith.blogspot.com/>http://ehansonsmith.blogspot.com/>
> >
> >I think a spoken blog with the text would be a nice feature for EFL
learners.
> >--Elizabeth H-S
>
> I agree, as I'm sure most of us here would. But how do we reconcile
> this kind of information that keeps appearing from the 'cognitive
> overload' camp? See
>
<http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/powerpoint-presentations-a-disaster/2007/\
04/03/1175366240499.html>this

> article about the disadvantage of reading and listening at the same
> time. Or is the language learning context different?
>
> - Michael.
>
>
>
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>