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5775 fjjwagner Offline Send Email Feb 1, 2007
12:36 pm
1. The passage Mr. Jones could not recall might be this one: " The divine Sonship is not revealed through an information tendered by Jesus, but through a...
5776 Owen Jones
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Feb 1, 2007
2:41 pm
Could someone please cite volume no. and page numbers of Quod.... thanks. ... Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail...
5777 FrankMas8@...
eugene304 Offline Send Email
Feb 1, 2007
2:48 pm
In a message dated 2/1/2007 8:45:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, metaxyreality@... writes: Vol. 12, pp376ff. Could someone please cite volume no. and page...
5778 G Ellis Sandoz
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Feb 1, 2007
3:35 pm
Quod Deus Dicitur is the last item in CW12. Ellis Sandoz FrankMas8@...@yahoogroups.com on 02/01/2007 08:47:51 AM Please respond to evforum@yahoogroups.com ...
5779 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 1, 2007
4:59 pm
Regarding Mr. Wagner's post, I fear I may have been misunderstood to speak impatiently for others. The last thing I wrote here combining the words 'beyond'...
5780 Martin Pagnan
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Feb 2, 2007
12:37 am
Well Folks, No matter how hard the Louisiana folks try to tie Voegelin to Dixieland music, Texas has other ideas. Rumba anyone? ...
5781 Owen Jones
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Feb 2, 2007
6:56 pm
Dear Mr. Jones, Thank you for your permission request. We are pleased to grant permission for you to reprint pages 376-394 from The Collected Works of Eric...
5782 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 2, 2007
7:16 pm
I can get the text into electronic format and would be happy to do so. However, I won't be able to get to it for a week or so. Perhaps someone else can get...
5783 James Rovira
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Feb 3, 2007
1:43 am
Perhaps this has already been done or suggested, but since it's a journal article available on JSTOR, I've downloaded the .pdf and can easily upload it to the...
5784 James Rovira
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Feb 3, 2007
1:47 am
The God that cannot be known cannot be incarnate either. So I agree with Voegelin on this point: "EV warns us against "the revealed God of Christianity." If...
5785 James Rovira
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Feb 3, 2007
2:01 am
Honestly, much of this ground has already been covered in Kierkegaard's discussions of "transferred language." What I'm about to say will sound like grotesque...
5786 James Rovira
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Feb 3, 2007
2:07 am
Much appreciation for posting this. When I read the book what I never liked about the first chart was that God is a pole of existence and not the ground of...
5787 Charles Bellinger
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Feb 4, 2007
8:16 pm
... never liked ... ground ... Jim, thanks for your comment. You have indicated one way the chart can be misunderstood. Putting God at the top does not mean...
5788 James Rovira
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Feb 4, 2007
8:29 pm
Thanks for the response -- the circle probably would be a good idea. I don't recall your manuscript, but perhaps you should emphasize that what you're...
5789 Charles Bellinger
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Feb 4, 2007
8:52 pm
... book, ... rare ... Jim, I'm not affirming pacifism in my current manuscript. I argue that there are circumstances in which using force to save lives is the...
5790 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 4, 2007
10:28 pm
Mr. Rovira wrote: "It's unclear to me why Mr. Jackson identifies the current argument about the historical, physical reality of the incarnation being the ...
5791 James Rovira
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Feb 5, 2007
4:24 am
I think I recall that. But it seemed that these were very rare circumstances: the force of your argument seems to be against violence in almost all times and...
5792 James Rovira
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Feb 5, 2007
4:37 am
Mr. Jackson: It seems to me, still, that the terms are only allowed if they're expressed in certain language. Would you be arguing with me if I had said from...
5793 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 5, 2007
4:01 pm
Mr. Rovira wrote: "It seems to me, still, that the terms are only allowed if they're expressed in certain language. Would you be arguing with me if I had said...
5794 Owen Jones
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Feb 5, 2007
4:15 pm
They can't be, so long as we conceptualize God and man as objects. I think this dillemma points to an underlying problem addressed by Voegelin. It's a bit...
5795 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 5, 2007
4:16 pm
I wrote: "But, the answer to Mr. Rovira's first question above is 'no'." Good grief, it is hard to keep it all together in these posts, or maybe I'm just plain...
5796 Jack Elliott
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Feb 5, 2007
4:51 pm
... mr. rovira, i have only been informed officially that owen jones and ellis sandoz have obtained permission fromthe university of missouri press to use the...
5797 James Rovira
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Feb 5, 2007
8:46 pm
Much appreciation for Mr. Jackson's responses. As a comparison of my ideas and Voegelin's would be largely for the benefit of my own instruction, I appreciate...
5798 Jack Elliott
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Feb 5, 2007
10:25 pm
EV's final essay, "Quod Deus Dicitur" has now been uploaded to the EVForum website where it can be accessed at the URL: ...
5799 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 5, 2007
10:41 pm
I have heard the emphasis on dialectic in Mr. Rovira's posts and don't mean to slight it. It just wasn't directly relevant to the comments I wanted to make. ...
5800 James Rovira
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Feb 6, 2007
3:07 am
Thanks again for the responses, Mr. Jackson. About this paragraph: << By 'empirical' I mean simply what Webster offers: "originating in or based on observation...
5801 Owen Jones
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Feb 6, 2007
5:06 am
Voegelin demonstrates quite persuasively that the acceptance of Christ by a culture beyond that of the Jewish religious leaders is made possible by the...
5802 James Rovira
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Feb 6, 2007
2:25 pm
Thank you for the response, Mr. Jones, but I don't understand how your closing comments about "proofs" is a response to me, as I had said previously that...
5803 Owen Jones
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Feb 6, 2007
2:59 pm
Perhaps the imago dei is Christ as Eternal Logos? As I understand Voegelin at least? But I think this is also consistent with the Patristic witness. The...
5804 Rhydon Jackson
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Feb 6, 2007
3:18 pm
I think Mr. Jones is right continue to undwrscore the term history. And, distinguishing between, for example, the term 'history' in what Mr. Rovira ...
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