As I think Voegelin documented, the "diminution of spiritual substance..." is often caused by instititional trends in religion itself, as we have been...
Mr. Jones writes: "But that's one layman's opinion." Well, at least two laymen. I heartily agree on all counts. The only thing I would add is that many trends...
Dear listservants: I am starting to find the name of Ken Wilber as a philosopher, and what little I see makes me wonder how compatible his work might be with...
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S. Barret Dolph
wheds8@...
Dec 1, 2005 4:15 pm
Thanks to Martin for his post. Given the following does anyone know if the interest in mysticism, icons, etc is a move to restore mysticism or a move away from...
It seems to me to be two different things to say that "God" is a symbol generated by experience and to say that "God" is a necessary postulate of our...
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S. Barret Dolph
wheds8@...
Dec 1, 2005 6:59 pm
A while back....12/04/2004 Mr. Pagnan put something about secular society quite nicely.... "I can buy "separation of Church and State". It is but an extention...
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S. Barret Dolph
wheds8@...
Dec 1, 2005 7:05 pm
If we are to be scientists we must have data. It might be prudent to discuss what kind of data we are to be examining so that we can keep the forum on the ...
What exactly is it that you're responding to, Mr. Dolph? Voegelin was an existential as well as a political philosopher (this is reinforced by my recent...
Somehow Mr Pagnan's remonstrance did not reach my inbox and I had to go to the website to find out what others were responding to. I agree that talking a lot...
Regarding Mr. Dolph's questions, I do not wish to sound like a cynic (in the modern sense) but I do not see anyone interested in Orthodoxy in the classical...
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FrankMas8@...
Dec 1, 2005 11:18 pm
At one time I thought of applying here a rule to the effect that every post must incorporate a pertinent and not gratuitous reference to Voegelin. That was...
I think it is high time for someone to make clear that I hope ALL of the listmembers have nothing but appreciation and praise for the conscientiousness of...
One might say, "It is both." Admittedly I am being a little bit flippant. My problem with this thread is not that it is off-topic, exactly, but it just...
In a message dated 11/30/2005 11:37:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, stromthy4@... writes: Mr. Wagner wrote: "The central political problem for our time is...
Seems like Voegelin grappled with the phenomena of Puritanism in ch. 5 of The New Science of Politics -- this should qualify. Jim Rovira FrankMas8@......
Frank is obviously correct. Fritz is an excellent moderator. It is a very difficult role. How should one deal with the pages of postings on wide-ranging...
Mr. Pagnan notes that: << a dose of hard-nosed realism is called for. The "nice" must always be suspect. ... I guess so. But, realistically and practically,...
This poem was written by Samuel Shoemaker, an Episcopal priest and one of the founders of Alcoholis Anonymous. I believe that it characterize both the tensions...
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S. Barret Dolph
wheds8@...
Dec 6, 2005 5:09 pm
The republic starts off with Socrates saying that he went down to the Piraeus to pray and to see the novel festivities. Much has been written of the latter as...
The opening of the Republic is rich, and it is a mistake to reduce it to formulae or propositions. We are introduced to the themes of "up" and "down" that...
Thanks to Professor Fuller for his submission. For those of us not in close proximity to a good library, would Professor Fuller (or anyone else) be able to...
Good question. I had understood that the phrase "libido dominandi" to have been used by Augustine in the City of God (and perhaps elsewhere). Yet I do not...
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Timothy Fuller
TFuller@...
Dec 7, 2005 3:08 am
You can Google the following to get the documents: Google: Saepius Officio (The title of the Abps. reply) Google: Encyclical on Anglican Orders (the...
I could find the exact phrase, "libido dominandi," in only 2 places in Augustine's major works (including City of God, Confessions, On the Trinity, etc.), and...
I found fifteen references to "libido dominandi" in the collected works. From the Vol 11 essays I found this splendid passage that employs the terminology...
I should have added CD 14.28 where Augustine refers to "dominandi libido". It's the central point to look for his analysis of the phenomenon. My original text...
I'm curious how listmembers would articulate the differences between the following two sentiments: 1) In consideratione creaturarum non est vana et peritura...
Augustine thinks man's sense of humor is part of God's creation. He also thinks an Islamic regime isn't a great idea. JvH ... -- ____________________________ ...
Dear Members, Our computer crashed and I have just read two weeks of ev-forums now that it has been repaired. There are several conversations --- all very...