Brian Holt' views are of interest on this topic; From his book "Jesus; GOD or the SON OF GOD?" (pp. 79-81) John 20:28-- In answer he said to him: "My Lord and...
... historical evidence from first century Christianity to support such a concept of "God" in the Trinitarian sense as a merely functional relationship between...
<< …1. Since the usage of ALHQINOS ("true") to mean archetypal is rare in biblical language, the burden of proof is on the side that claims such a meaning is...
... From: "simplybiblical" <hollistat@...> To: <evangelicals_and_jws@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 6:39 AM Subject: [evangelicals_and_jws]...
My goodness Barry; I pray you are simply using your beloved "ad hominem" label in just here. Otherwise I can see no alternative but label you in turn with the...
... the ... times ... 3 ... Mmmmm...the thought occurs to me to ask....and since trinitarians are now understanding the anarhrous QEOS of John 1:1c as purely ...
Thanks for posting those numbers of archetypal uses of "true" (ALHQINOS) in N.T. occurrences Kaz; No wonder Jeremiah's scriptural citations earlier were all...
Ed, You wrote: << Mmmmm...the thought occurs to me to ask....and since trinitarians are now understanding the anarhrous QEOS of John 1:1c as purely qualitative...
... trinitarians ... Hi Rob. But those trinitarians who do and accept the burden of proof and think that they supply it _and_ contrary to how "Christians have...
... Hollis, wake up. Have a second cup of coffee (JW's can drink coffee, can't they?). I was pointing out that I was delivering an ad hominem attack, just so...
Hi Rob; I'm also afraid that your position regarding the anarthrous QEOS at Jn. 1:1c puts you out on the same limb in shouldering a similar burden of proof. To...
Barry wrote: << Hollis, wake up. Have a second cup of coffee (JW's can drink coffee, can't they?). I was pointing out that I was delivering an ad hominem ...
Christ is not 'a god', he's a man. If you want to insist that Christ is a god, you'll have to also insist that i'm a god as well because i have been conformed...
Hollis, This citation just re-hashed everything we've talked about, contributing nothing new to the discussion and making the same assumptions you presented....
Hollis, 1. Looking at each the verses you referred to, I can't seem to gather any "archetype" sense out of them from the context. In fact, they seem to support...
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Hollis, I have posted a message--twice--addressed specifically to you in response to an earlier post of yours. Did you see it? You wrote: << I'm also afraid...
Jeremiah; You wrote: << 1. Looking at each the verses you referred to, I can't seem to gather any "archetype" sense out of them from the context. In fact, they...
Hey Hollis, You said: ...I was referring to the numbers posted by Kaz and he did not list their locations." Actually, I did list the locations of the verses,...
In a message dated 7/1/2007 7:03:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kazman1914@... writes: Actually, that isn't "true", at least not in the NT. John uses...
Thanks Kaz for the correction; Duuuh...Boy you sure did list them. Don’t know what is wrong with me today. Sorry for that though Jeremiah still incorrectly...
No problem, Hollis, we all overlook things now and again. About your conversation with Rob, I'm afraid I probably won't have time to contribute to that...
All, The JWs on this list have been arguing that the word ALHQINOS in John 17:3 does not mean "true" as opposed to "false" but rather means "archetypal," and...
"The JWs on this list have been arguing that the word ALHQINOS in John 17:3 does not mean "true" as opposed to "false" but rather means "archetypal," and...
Hollis, not to make a big fuss but...you cited them in your email without quotation marks or any other cue to their not being yours. I don't believe I received...
Hi, Kaz, Can you explain why? I did read each verse and did not find the necessity of interpreting them in an archetypal sense. Thanks, Jeremiah ... -- No...
Something rather important to take into consideration as well is that the Father was, and is, Jesus' God. The moment Jesus became a man, he renounced his...
Kaz, I had written: "The JWs on this list have been arguing that the word ALHQINOS in John 17:3 does not mean 'true' as opposed to 'false' but rather means...
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