Martin,
I was not at all aware you had written anything on this.
Not on the eunitrans list? Where?
I asked you Sept.19th:
Martin, are there any news on the EU agenda you mentioned in Copenhagen?
And similarly, has anything been done in regard to an internet site of
ours - if still thought as convenient?
Arno

And your answer the day after was:
Arno
The EU possibility has gone rather cold.  Possibly it could
be restarted.  Depends on level of enthusiasm.
No action on Web-Site
Unsure what to do next
Martin

But anyway, let's get moving:

As I understand the items I posted to the list, the matters are related to
production-oriented networks.
What you are talking about seems to be creating an overview of initiatives
in the EU, as well as promoting co-operation?

What we could do as a starter is:
1. Use the eunitrans site as it is.
2. Establish a more regular and permanent site for more thorough
information.
(This would have to be done since the eunitrans site is not a homepage as
such but only a mailing list site with very limited opportunities of
expression/ layout)
3. Regarding specific ideas I will be mailing an update on what goes on in
Oslo any minute now.

And yes, here it comes:

A very Merry Christmas and a great new Millennium to y'all !!!

Arno
http://sportaxi.com
http://daastol.com

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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 4:34 PM
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Cc: eunitrans; CONS-SPST-SPRAWL-TRANS@LISTS. SIERRACLUB. ORG;
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Subject: [eunitrans] Re: EU's 5th Framework: City of Tomorrow - Joint
efforts?

Arno

Nice to see some action again.

As you know I did contact everyone concerned some months
ago, asking if people would like to be involved in an EC
bid. In fact I had NO replies.

I have recently been contacted again by EC and they seem
very keen that I should lead a 100% funded comparative
study very much along the lines we discussed in Copenhagen,
with a review of each project, a workshop to get together
etc.

As far as I am concerned everyone who has a legitimate
innovative transport project must be included.

There should also be some cash to develop the eunitrans net
site further.

Please could you all get back to me with any ideas, and I
will make sure that these are written into anthing which
goes to EC.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Millennium


Martin Lowson


On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:21:44 +0100 Arno Mong Daastoel
<am@...> wrote:

http://susdev.eurofound.ie/

My contribution could be a criticl review of existing innovative small-scale
transit systems and development projects of relevance.

MEERY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND A SUCCESSFUL NEW MILENNIUM!

Ingmar

Arno

Nice to see some action again.

As you know I did contact everyone concerned some months
ago, asking if people would like to be involved in an EC
bid. In fact I had NO replies.

I have recently been contacted again by EC and they seem
very keen that I should lead a 100% funded comparative
study very much along the lines we discussed in Copenhagen,
with a review of each project, a workshop to get together
etc.

As far as I am concerned everyone who has a legitimate
innovative transport project must be included.

There should also be some cash to develop the eunitrans net
site further.

Please could you all get back to me with any ideas, and I
will make sure that these are written into anthing which
goes to EC.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Millennium


Martin Lowson


On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:21:44 +0100 Arno Mong Daastoel
<am@...> wrote:

> EU fellows: Shouldnt we get moving on this one and join our efforts?
>
> In order to be considered for funds an applicant needs to have an
> established network in the EU.
>
> After APM99, the eunitrans list is supposed to co-ordinate work in relation
> to the EU, regarding innovative transit.
>
> Use the list in for this co-operative work:
> http://www.egroups.com/group/eunitrans/info.html
> <http://www.egroups.com/group/eunitrans/info.html>
>
> Here is some info on EU's 5th Framework: http://www.cordis.lu/fp5/home.html
> Key activity 4: "City of Tomorrow and Cultural Heritage":
> http://www.cordis.lu/eesd/src/library.htm
> and http://www.cordis.lu/eesd/src/d-oj-en4.htm#KA4
> Subgroup 3 is Sustainable Cities, subgroup 4 is Sustainable Urban Transport
> Arno
> http://sportaxi.com
> http://daastol.com
>
> Here is more info:
> (iv) The city of tomorrow and cultural heritage
> Objectives and RTD priorities
> The overall goal of this key action is to support sustainable economic
> development and competitiveness, improved urban management and integrated
> planning policy, and help safeguard and improve the quality of life and
> cultural identity of citizens. It will focus on the provision of an
> integrated socioeconomic knowledge-base, and products, services, tools and
> technologies for better city management and on the environmental challenges,
> particularly in relation to reducing pollutant emissions.
> - Integrated approaches aiming at sustainable development of cities and
> rational management of resources
> The aim is to create new models for the sustainable development of European
> cities and city regions and prepare medium- and long-term socioeconomic
> scenarios and research, development and demonstration activities focusing,
> in particular, on supporting and stimulating economic competitiveness, town
> planning and architecture, social integration, safety, energy efficiency and
> conservation (in particular in buildings and in urban transport) and the
> exploitation of information networks (the concept of .digital cities').
> RTD priorities: urban development scenarios and integrated planning tools;
> developing strategies for job creation and socioeconomic integration, also
> taking into account safety and multicultural aspects; impact of
> technologies, infrastructure, noise and air pollution from all sources on
> social development, changes in urban surface use, resource utilisation,
> health and the environment; demand management, safety and security of supply
> of essential resources (e.g. energy, land and water); integrated approaches
> to better use and conservation of resources and reduced pollution and waste
> taking into account social and environmental sustainability,
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Bristol BS8 1TR
England
Tel  0117 928 7694
Mobile 07887 676 038

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Could you possibly send me the stuff again either in text
form IN THE E-MAIL or with a clear attachment format eg
word.doc


Thanks

Martin


On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 02:04:33 +0100 Nowacki
<nowacki@...> wrote:


Martin Lowson
Sir George White Professor
Queens Building
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TR
England
Tel  0117 928 7694
Mobile 07887 676 038

martin.lowson@...

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Arno Mong Daastoel <am@...>
Till: eunitrans <eunitrans@egroups.com>; CONS-SPST-SPRAWL-TRANS@LISTS. SIERRACLUB. ORG <CONS-SPST-SPRAWL-TRANS@...>; owner-alt-transp@... <owner-alt-transp@...>; transit-alternatives@... <transit-alternatives@...>
Datum: den 21 december 1999 12:22
Ämne: [eunitrans] EU's 5th Framework: City of Tomorrow - Joint efforts?

EU fellows: Shouldn’t we get moving on this one and join our efforts?

In order to be considered for funds an applicant needs to have an established network in the EU.

After APM’99, the eunitrans list is supposed to co-ordinate work in relation to the EU, regarding innovative transit.

Use the list in for this co-operative work: http://www.egroups.com/group/eunitrans/info.html

Here is some info on EU's 5th Framework: http://www.cordis.lu/fp5/home.html

Key activity 4: "City of Tomorrow and Cultural Heritage": http://www.cordis.lu/eesd/src/library.htm

and http://www.cordis.lu/eesd/src/d-oj-en4.htm#KA4

Subgroup 3 is Sustainable Cities, subgroup 4 is Sustainable Urban Transport

Arno

http://sportaxi.com

http://daastol.com

 

Here is more info:

(iv) The city of tomorrow and cultural heritage

Objectives and RTD priorities

The overall goal of this key action is to support sustainable economic development and competitiveness, improved urban management and integrated planning policy, and help safeguard and improve the quality of life and cultural identity of citizens. It will focus on the provision of an integrated socioeconomic knowledge-base, and products, services, tools and technologies for better city management and on the environmental challenges, particularly in relation to reducing pollutant emissions.

- Integrated approaches aiming at sustainable development of cities and rational management of resources

The aim is to create new models for the sustainable development of European cities and city regions and prepare medium- and long-term socioeconomic scenarios and research, development and demonstration activities focusing, in particular, on supporting and stimulating economic competitiveness, town planning and architecture, social integration, safety, energy efficiency and conservation (in particular in buildings and in urban transport) and the exploitation of information networks (the concept of .digital cities').

RTD priorities: urban development scenarios and integrated planning tools; developing strategies for job creation and socioeconomic integration, also taking into account safety and multicultural aspects; impact of technologies, infrastructure, noise and air pollution from all sources on social development, changes in urban surface use, resource utilisation, health and the environment; demand management, safety and security of supply of essential resources (e.g. energy, land and water); integrated approaches to better use and conservation of resources and reduced pollution and waste taking into account social and environmental sustainability,

 

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Datum: den 6 november 1999 09:38
Ämne: [eunitrans] Translating your table to english


Hej

Jag blev ombedd att översätta tabellen "spreadsheat.html"
på   http://sportaxi.com/
till engelska. Jag hade problem med ett ord:
Vad betyder "penser" ??

Har ni planer på att lägga en engelsk översättning av tabellen
på er website? Det finns många ute i världen som är intresserade,
men som inte kan läsa tabellen.

Venlig hilsen

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Hej

Jag blev ombedd att översätta tabellen "spreadsheat.html"
på   http://sportaxi.com/
till engelska. Jag hade problem med ett ord:
Vad betyder "penser" ??

Har ni planer på att lägga en engelsk översättning av tabellen
på er website? Det finns många ute i världen som är intresserade,
  men som inte kan läsa tabellen.

Venlig hilsen

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EU, UN etc. Initiatives

I have found just a few initiatives that I have set up on our internet page
under the sections Innovative Transport, EU, UN etc. Initiatives . Are you
aware of any more?
I don't have much time, but could make a small webpage for our European
initiative - eunitrans. The web address? Would not know, but could be a
subsection under my personal webpage if there are no better ideas.
Suggestions?

Arno
http://sportaxi.com
http://daastol.com


EU, UN etc. Initiatives
Nordic - NORDIC ENVIRONMENT FINANCE CORPORATION: http://www.nefco.fi/

EU - Cordis, The Information Society Technologies Programme (IST):
http://www.cordis.lu/ist/home.html

Unctad - Multimodal Transport Section Homepage:
http://www.unctad.org/en/subsites/multimod/mt1home.htm

Arno

The EU possibility has gone rather cold.  Possibly it could
be restarted.  Depaends on level of enthusiasm.

No action on Web-Site

Unsure what to do next


Martin



On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:03:57 +0200 Arno Mong Daastoel
<arno@...> wrote:

> Martin, are there any news on the EU agenda you mentioned in Copenhagen ?
> And simliarly, has anything been done in regard to an internet site of
> ours - if still thought as conveniant?
>
> Best wishes!
> Vennlig hilsen!
>
> Arno
>
>
>
>
>
> Arno Mong Daastxl
> Norsk Sportaxi a.s. P.O. Box 11,
> Fekjan 7C, N-1312 Slependen, Norway
> Ph: +47. 66 84 76 40 Fax: +47. 66 84 76 70
> Email: amd@... URL: http://sportaxi.com
> Automated individual people movers for smart cities - speedy, safe and green
>
> Private: Utsiktsveien 34, N-1410 Kolbotn, Norway
> Ph: (prefix 47) W: 6680 6373 Pr: 6680 6523, Fax: 6699 5325
> Mobile: 9002 4956, Voice Box and Mobile Fax: 9403 5650
> Email: am@... URL: http://daastol.com
>
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> SUM - Centre for Development and Environment, University of Oslo
>
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England
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Martin, are there any news on the EU agenda you mentioned in Copenhagen ?
And simliarly, has anything been done in regard to an internet site of
ours - if still thought as conveniant?

Best wishes!
Vennlig hilsen!

Arno





Arno Mong Daastøl
Norsk Sportaxi a.s. P.O. Box 11,
Fekjan 7C, N-1312 Slependen, Norway
Ph: +47. 66 84 76 40 Fax: +47. 66 84 76 70
Email: amd@... URL: http://sportaxi.com
Automated individual people movers for smart cities - speedy, safe and green

Private: Utsiktsveien 34, N-1410 Kolbotn, Norway
Ph: (prefix 47) W: 6680 6373 Pr: 6680 6523, Fax: 6699 5325
Mobile: 9002 4956, Voice Box and Mobile Fax: 9403 5650
Email: am@... URL: http://daastol.com

PhD Cand. Department of Public Economics, University of Maastricht
SUM - Centre for Development and Environment, University of Oslo

What do our Swede Track people think of these problems:

> The cost of the guideway would be much larger. The visual impact would
> be more problematic.
The guideway itself would probably not be larger but the posts would be
higher.

>The users would have to trust the mechanism to lift
> the vehicle. When "riding" on top of the guideway, the users will feel
> safe automatically because they can see that they are carried safely in
> a vehicle "riding" in a stable way on top of the guideway.

I seriously doubt this: I tried the Wuppertal susespended "tram" this summer
and found it quite OK. So did the old folks I talked with.

>Sidewind is a big problem in suspended systems, not in a RUF system.

This can be moderated with technology.

>
> > This would have made it possible to evade the security risks connected
> > to allowing (damaged) vehicles onto the monorail system, since the
> > dual mode vehicles could be run simply by attaching to a propulsion
> > system that is external to the vehicle but internal to the system.
> > Thereby this would to a larger extent elminate the need for security
> > checks before allowing vehicles onto the system.
>
> That is true, but at the same time you introduce a new logistical
> problem, namely the empty "vehicle" problem.

Yes, that is true, but I guess these can be stored somewhere easily since
they hardly take up any room.

Arno

> Arno Mong Daastoel wrote:
>
> Dear Palle!
> Thank you for the update of info on your dual mode project in
> Copenhagen!
>
> I would like to ask you to inform me on the reasons you did not choose
> suspended dual mode - instead of the supported mode you actually have
> chosen.

The cost of the guideway would be much larger. The visual impact would
be more problematic. The users would have to trust the mechanism to lift
the vehicle. When "riding" on top of the guideway, the users will feel
safe automatically because they can see that they are carried safely in
a vehicle "riding" in a stable way on top of the guideway. Sidewind is a
big problem in suspended systems, not in a RUF system.

> This would have made it possible to evade the security risks connected
> to allowing (damaged) vehicles onto the monorail system, since the
> dual mode vehicles could be run simply by attaching to a propulsion
> system that is external to the vehicle but internal to the system.
> Thereby this would to a larger extent elminate the need for security
> checks before allowing vehicles onto the system.

That is true, but at the same time you introduce a new logistical
problem, namely the empty "vehicle" problem.

All in all I find the suspended mode most attractive.

Palle R Jensen

I'm writing an article for Movers magazine. The deadline is in a few
weeks. I want to put an email address in the article. Should I use the
Eunitrans address?

Joff


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Dear Partners

I have had a series of exchanges with Brussels, and am
writing to update you, and ask for your
comments/endorsement.

My key contact in Brussels is Eric Ponthieu, who would be
the Scientific Officer in charge of any EC funded project
in this area.


He tells me that:

1)  We can submit for a concerted action/thematic network
in Innovative Transport under Section 4.4.2 of the work
programme  (City of Tomorrow).

2)  The call for proposals will open Oct 99 for this area.
Note:  This means proposals will be required by Jan 2000
with likely start dates around Sep 2000.  This is much
longer than we had previously appreciated.

3)  He is prepared to consider a proposal for an
"Accompanying Measure".  This is a small programme to start
things going, and can be submitted at any time.  Eric has
agreed to review a Pre-Proposal if we submit this.

4)  It is usual for such measures to be managed for the
benefit of all by one or two partners only.

I feel that it is important to start on some work together
much earlier than Sep 2000.  The sort  of work which could
be included in an AM is

*  survey of EC expertise
*  EC conference

I suggest that we plan a conference (in Brussels?) on
Application of Innovative Transport Technologies.  All
partners (plus municipalities?) would give papers.  We can
get partial funding under the AM to cover the travel etc
costs for this.

Apparently they are not keen on paying for US experts.

Probably maximum total funding at this stage would be about
50,000 Euros.  We would need to make an argument that there
was large amounts of In-Kind support in the various partners
so that the EC element was a small part of the whole.  Would
you like to be involved as full partners ie would you like
to complete all the forms etc; or are you happy to leave it
to me to implement under a University umbrella? Or we could
go with a subset?

I feel that we should put something in.  We will also need
to involve the municipalities in the work.  We can then
work towards an EC funded demonstration.

Please let me know how you would like to be involved in
this, and what you see as the critical content and I will
get the appropriate Pre-Proposal to Eric Ponthieu.


Martin


Martin Lowson
Sir George White Professor
Queens Building
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TR
England
martin.lowson@...



Martin Lowson
Sir George White Professor
Queens Building
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TR
England
martin.lowson@...
On Sun, 16 May 1999 20:08:44 +0200 Arno Mong Daastoel
<arno@...> wrote:


Martin Lowson
Sir George White Professor
Queens Building
University of Bristol
Bristol BS8 1TR
England
martin.lowson@...


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I liked INCITE.

Ingmar



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Dear Transport professionals

Thanks to Arno for initiating the mailing list.

I did some name research and came up with a couple of possible acronyms:

INCITE =

Innovation
Network for
CIty
Transport in
Europe

or

ENTRAIN =

European
Network for
TRAnsportation
INnovation

What do you think?

Palle R Jensen

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initiatives in innovative advanced transportation, especially related to PRT -
personal rapid transit: Automated, flexible and network oriented personal
transportation systems. (PRT is generally auomated, electric cars running on
elevated guidelines or tracks)For more info, see http://daastol.com/e-prt.html
For more information, http://daastol.com/eunitrans.html


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