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Hi y'all

I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent
"so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)

I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest
concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?

any and all feedback is appreciated

coin can be seen at

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1

and

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2

sorry for the blurry pics

VF

#23642

From: Rob Risi <rjrisi@...>
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 12:09 am
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] error ...or??

rjrisi

To me it looks like post strike damage, NOT AN ERROR, but im not 100% sure...I'm 75% sure, but you should get an answer soon from others.

~ROB RISI~

--- On Wed, 2/2/11, mytidawg <vfalcone_1@...> wrote:

From: mytidawg <vfalcone_1@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] error ...or??
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:54 PM

Hi y'all

I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent "so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)

I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?

any and all feedback is appreciated

coin can be seen at

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1

and

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2

sorry for the blurry pics

VF

#23643

From: "Lee Lydston" <lee.lydston@...>
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 12:13 am
Subject: RE: [Error Coin Information Exchange] error ...or??

llydston

I see post strike damage as well since I cannot imagine how a crumpled planchet (such as the coin displayed) could possibly receive an impression in the recesses of the crumpled area without getting straightened out flat.

From: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com [mailto:errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Risi
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:10 PM
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] error ...or??

To me it looks like post strike damage, NOT AN ERROR, but im not 100% sure...I'm 75% sure, but you should get an answer soon from others.

~ROB RISI~

--- On Wed, 2/2/11, mytidawg <vfalcone_1@...> wrote:

From: mytidawg <vfalcone_1@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] error ...or??
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:54 PM

Hi y'all

I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent "so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)

I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?

any and all feedback is appreciated

coin can be seen at

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1

and

http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2

sorry for the blurry pics

VF

#23644

From: "Mike Diamond" <mdia1@...>
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 2:42 am
Subject: Re: error ...or??

dermestid

I agree that the warped surfaces are not something a coinage press would
produce.  The coin was altered outside the Mint, possibly by the application of
heat.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "mytidawg" <vfalcone_1@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi y'all
>
> I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent
"so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)
>
> I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest
concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?
>
> any and all feedback is appreciated
>
> coin can be seen at
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1
>
> and
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2
>
> sorry for the blurry pics
>
> VF
>

#23645

From: innff@...
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: error ...or??

oldsubguru

Just to add to Mike's post. Since this is a zinc core Lincoln cent, applied heat is the most likely cause for warping or deformation. Zinc has a melt point of 787.15 degrees F., while copper has a melt point of 1984.32 degrees F. What this means is that the zinc can be melted inside the copper plate and moved around creating weird shapes, dents, bulges and weights. All this can be accomplished on a kitchen stove.

In a message dated 2/2/2011 9:43:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mdia1@... writes:

I agree that the warped surfaces are not something a coinage press would produce. The coin was altered outside the Mint, possibly by the application of heat.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "mytidawg" <vfalcone_1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi y'all
>
> I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent "so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)
>
> I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?
>
> any and all feedback is appreciated
>
> coin can be seen at
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1
>
> and
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2
>
> sorry for the blurry pics
>
> VF
>

#23646

From: "Lee Lydston" <lee.lydston@...>
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 3:15 pm
Subject: RE: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: error ...or??

llydston

Wouldn’t that have discolored the copper?

From: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com [mailto:errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of innff@...
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:32 AM
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: error ...or??

In a message dated 2/2/2011 9:43:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mdia1@... writes:

I agree that the warped surfaces are not something a coinage press would produce. The coin was altered outside the Mint, possibly by the application of heat.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "mytidawg" <vfalcone_1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi y'all
>
> I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent "so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)
>
> I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?
>
> any and all feedback is appreciated
>
> coin can be seen at
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1
>
> and
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2
>
> sorry for the blurry pics
>
> VF
>

#23647

From: innff@...
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: error ...or??

oldsubguru

Not necessarily. The changing of color is caused by copper oxide which is formed by a reaction to the oxygen in the air when the copper is being heated. A reducing agent, such as hydrogen, will reduce the copper oxide on the surface layer and return the copper to its original state of color. A mild abrasive will also do the same.

If you remember the copper bottom pots and pans; they discolored when heat was applied to them. However, a mild abrasive brought the original color back.

In a message dated 2/3/2011 10:16:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lee.lydston@... writes:

Wouldn’t that have discolored the copper?

From: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com [mailto:errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of innff@...
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:32 AM
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: error ...or??

Just to add to Mike's post. Since this is a zinc core Lincoln cent, applied heat is the most likely cause for warping or deformation. Zinc has a melt point of 787.15 degrees F., while copper has a melt point of 1984.32 degrees F. What this means is that the zinc can be melted inside the copper plate and moved around creating weird shapes, dents, bulges and weights. All this can be accomplished on a kitchen stove.

In a message dated 2/2/2011 9:43:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mdia1@... writes:

I agree that the warped surfaces are not something a coinage press would produce. The coin was altered outside the Mint, possibly by the application of heat.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "mytidawg" <vfalcone_1@...> wrote:
>
> Hi y'all
>
> I am helping a customer with this piece...to me this 1997 D Lincoln cent "so-called" error looks man-made (a destroyed penny)
>
> I told him I would put it up here for the "experts" to review.....his biggest concern is the color of the penny.....did it miss a "wash" in its process?
>
> any and all feedback is appreciated
>
> coin can be seen at
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny1
>
> and
>
> http://www.falconecoins.com/penny2
>
> sorry for the blurry pics
>
> VF
>

#23649

From: innff@...
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] India - Eight Annas 1919 [2 Attachments]

oldsubguru

It appears to be a "struck through a foreign object". However, your picture pixilated before a clear determination could be made.

In a message dated 2/3/2011 11:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sridhar3010@... writes:

I am enclosing the the images of an Eight Annas coin of India1919 made of nickel chromium. The coin has a die crack. On the obverse it also has a defect on the neck over the robe.Is this a die defect?

Reply | Messages in this Topic (1)

#23650

From: "B.N.SRIDHAR" <sridhar3010@...>
Date: Thu Feb 3, 2011 5:19 pm
Subject: Eight Annas Coin India 1919

sridhar3010

I am enclosing the images of a 1919 Eight Annas coin of India made of cupro-nickel . The coin has a die crack error. On the obverse it also has a defect on the neck over the robe. Is this a die defect?

2 of 2 File(s)

8 annas Reverse.jpg

8 Anna Obverse.jpg

#23651

From: "Rob Holcomb" <rob.holcomb@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 1:48 am
Subject: Really valuable error coin! lol

robpaloalto

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

#23652

From: "Rob Holcomb" <rob.holcomb@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 1:49 am
Subject: Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

robpaloalto

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202582330

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

Rob

http://www.rholcomb.com

#23653

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 1:53 am
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

taxi_steve929

Funny!!

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...> wrote:

From: Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:49 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202582330

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

Rob

http://www.rholcomb.com

#23654

From: innff@...
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 2:00 am
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

oldsubguru

I must laugh or a better expression LMAO at person like this. The person has let loose their brains and put the contents up for auction!.

In a message dated 2/4/2011 8:49:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rob.holcomb@... writes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202582330

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

Rob

http://www.rholcomb.com

#23655

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

ivan0000013

not as funny as this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170597924889&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...> wrote:

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:53 PM

Funny!!

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...> wrote:

From: Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:49 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202582330

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

Rob

http://www.rholcomb.com

#23656

From: "Rob Holcomb" <rob.holcomb@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

robpaloalto

Maybe these people are trying to raise money to pay taxes. I can't imagine what they are seeing.

Rob

From: Michael Evanchik

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:07 AM

To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

not as funny as this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170597924889&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...> wrote:

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:53 PM

Funny!!

--- On Fri, 2/4/11, Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...> wrote:

From: Rob Holcomb <rob.holcomb@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Really valuable error coin! lol
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:49 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360202582330

I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!

This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe really common or ordinary items.

Rob

http://www.rholcomb.com

Rob Holcomb	...	1433 Alma St
650-223-4757	...	Palo Alto, CA 94301

#23657

From: "tumbleweed" <goldpans@...>
Date: Sat Feb 5, 2011 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: Really valuable error coin! lol

whitetumbleweed

Check his feedback.
I think he's honest and needs educated about these coins of his.
Anyone here try to contact him?


--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Holcomb"
<rob.holcomb@...> wrote:
>
> I found this auction, and thought it needs to be promoted. Not because anyone
here wants to bid on it, but because it is outrageous!
> This guy has a whole series of outrageous claims when trying to describe
really common or ordinary items.
>

#23658

From: "Michael E" <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 4:38 pm
Subject: double struck cent

ivan0000013

i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant
beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got
taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974
lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has
2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very
strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike
e.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&s\
i=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3\
A1123

#23659

From: "Travis" <travisbolton543@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: double struck cent

travisbolton543

I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture.
Otherwise it's a nice error.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E"
<ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant
beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got
taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974
lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has
2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very
strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike
e.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&s\
i=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3\
A1123
>

#23660

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent

ivan0000013

im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:

From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM

I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
>

#23661

From: innff@...
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent

oldsubguru

That also is my concern. Given that it has been in the same holder for 35 years, Verdi gris may have set in.

In a message dated 2/6/2011 12:08:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, travisbolton543@... writes:

I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> I dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
>

#23662

From: Rob Risi <rjrisi@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent

rjrisi

sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25 bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for 94 bucks, NO!

~ROB RISI~

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM

im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:

From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM

I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
>

#23663

From: fred_weinberg
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 6:04 pm
Subject: Jim Heine/ double struck cent

fred_weinberg

The coin is real, and these "FDC"s were put together
by Jim Heine, an active error collector in the
San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

I'd suggest using acetone on the Cent when you
get it - yes, it should be removed so that the
pvc contamination stops; keep the cover - it's
a nice momento of the earlier days of the error
coin hobby......



--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Rob Risi <rjrisi@...>
wrote:
>
> sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25
bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for
94 bucks, NO!
>
>    ~ROB RISI~          
>
> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
> Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.
>
> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
> Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
>
>
>  
>
> I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the
picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.
>
> --- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E"
<ivan0000013@> wrote:
> >
> > i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i
cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just
got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974
lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has
2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very
strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike
e.
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&s\
i=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3\
A1123
> >
>

#23664

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent

ivan0000013

well i guess i may haved gotten a bit taken.i really didnt think it was that bad.to fred,ive never cleaned/conserved any coin ive ever had.is that something you would/could do for me as i dont want to damage it further? i dont mind paying a fee to make sure it is done correctly.thanks,mike e.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:04 PM

The coin is real, and these "FDC"s were put together
by Jim Heine, an active error collector in the
San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

I'd suggest using acetone on the Cent when you
get it - yes, it should be removed so that the
pvc contamination stops; keep the cover - it's
a nice momento of the earlier days of the error
coin hobby......

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Rob Risi <rjrisi@...> wrote:
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> sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25 bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for 94 bucks, NO!
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> Â Â Â ~ROB RISI~Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
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> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
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> From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
> Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
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> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:
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> From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
> Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
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> I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.
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> --- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@> wrote:
> >
> > i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
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> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
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#23665

From: "Mike Diamond" <mdia1@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent

dermestid

Acetone won't harm a copper-alloy cent.  Just get a small container at your
local hardware or drug store.  Leave the coin in for 30 seconds to a minute (or
longer, if necessary) until the as much as the green crud as possible is
dissolved.  Then remove and rinse with distilled water.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Michael Evanchik
<ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> well i guess i may haved gotten a bit taken.i really didnt think it was that
bad.to fred,ive never cleaned/conserved any coin ive ever had.is that something
you would/could do for me as i dont want to damage it further? i dont mind
paying a fee to make sure it is done correctly.thanks,mike e.

#23666

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent

ivan0000013

ill give it a shot.thanks mike.maybe ill practice on a regular coin first.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Mike Diamond <mdia1@...> wrote:

From: Mike Diamond <mdia1@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:56 PM

Acetone won't harm a copper-alloy cent. Just get a small container at your local hardware or drug store. Leave the coin in for 30 seconds to a minute (or longer, if necessary) until the as much as the green crud as possible is dissolved. Then remove and rinse with distilled water.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> well i guess i may haved gotten a bit taken.i really didnt think it was that bad.to fred,ive never cleaned/conserved any coin ive ever had.is that something you would/could do for me as i dont want to damage it further? i dont mind paying a fee to make sure it is done correctly.thanks,mike e.

#23667

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent

taxi_steve929

I've used xylol since an EAC member in the early 80's. when they say to make sure you use it in a well ventilated area, they aren't just being overly cautious. That combined with the distilled water rinsing and in my case, some care or blue ribbon lightly brushed on, then into an acid free paper holder.

With verdigris, I also won't store them with my other coins...supposedly the coins have to be touching for the verdigris to spread from coin to coin, but why even chance that it can spread airborne when it's pretty easy to just keep them stored separately.

I have som guys in another group who purchased that stuff being touted online and ebay that is supposed to eliminate verdigris, and so far, they've had mixed results, but I'm waiting to see if anything happens after a year. When removing verdigris, you will ineveitably leave some pitting, so it's up to the coin owner which he prefers. Regardless of the cleaning, I agree wholeheartly with Fred on keeping the card. Its history, adds something to provenance, and will increase the value to those who like that. It's like owning a Norweb coin with the Norweb holder, with the spider web on it....it's something collectors will pay extra to have.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:04 PM

The coin is real, and these "FDC"s were put together
by Jim Heine, an active error collector in the
San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

I'd suggest using acetone on the Cent when you
get it - yes, it should be removed so that the
pvc contamination stops; keep the cover - it's
a nice momento of the earlier days of the error
coin hobby......

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Rob Risi <rjrisi@...> wrote:
>
> sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25 bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for 94 bucks, NO!
>
> Â Â Â ~ROB RISI~Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
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> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
> Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
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> im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.
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> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:
>
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> From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
> Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
>
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> Â
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> I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.
>
> --- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@> wrote:
> >
> > i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
> >
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#23668

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent

ivan0000013

what exactly is xylol and where can one purchase it?

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...> wrote:

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 3:16 PM

I've used xylol since an EAC member in the early 80's. when they say to make sure you use it in a well ventilated area, they aren't just being overly cautious. That combined with the distilled water rinsing and in my case, some care or blue ribbon lightly brushed on, then into an acid free paper holder.

With verdigris, I also won't store them with my other coins...supposedly the coins have to be touching for the verdigris to spread from coin to coin, but why even chance that it can spread airborne when it's pretty easy to just keep them stored separately.

I have som guys in another group who purchased that stuff being touted online and ebay that is supposed to eliminate verdigris, and so far, they've had mixed results, but I'm waiting to see if anything happens after a year. When removing verdigris, you will ineveitably leave some pitting, so it's up to the coin owner which he prefers. Regardless of the cleaning, I agree wholeheartly with Fred on keeping the card. Its history, adds something to provenance, and will increase the value to those who like that. It's like owning a Norweb coin with the Norweb holder, with the spider web on it....it's something collectors will pay extra to have.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:04 PM

The coin is real, and these "FDC"s were put together
by Jim Heine, an active error collector in the
San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

I'd suggest using acetone on the Cent when you
get it - yes, it should be removed so that the
pvc contamination stops; keep the cover - it's
a nice momento of the earlier days of the error
coin hobby......

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Rob Risi <rjrisi@...> wrote:
>
> sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25 bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for 94 bucks, NO!
>
> Â Â Â ~ROB RISI~Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
>
> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
> Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
>
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> Â
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>
> im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.
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> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
> Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
>
>
> Â
>
> I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.
>
> --- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@> wrote:
> >
> > i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
> >
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#23669

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent

taxi_steve929

Mike gave you the safest bet. It will not do anything to hurt the coin. It amazed me when I received some coins I won in the Ford sales...after giving them a good brushing, (light so you don't remove the "good" patina, then using some blue ribbon before storing, the incredible difference. These coins were locked up and untouched for so long, and I recommend brushing copper coins at least every 2nd year, and if possible, once a year. I've since sold the coins, and wish I had saved the before and after photos. These were incredible coins to begin with and just became amazing after the proper preservation steps were taken.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 3:16 PM

ill give it a shot.thanks mike.maybe ill practice on a regular coin first.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Mike Diamond <mdia1@...> wrote:

From: Mike Diamond <mdia1@...>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:56 PM

Acetone won't harm a copper-alloy cent. Just get a small container at your local hardware or drug store. Leave the coin in for 30 seconds to a minute (or longer, if necessary) until the as much as the green crud as possible is dissolved. Then remove and rinse with distilled water.

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> well i guess i may haved gotten a bit taken.i really didnt think it was that bad.to fred,ive never cleaned/conserved any coin ive ever had.is that something you would/could do for me as i dont want to damage it further? i dont mind paying a fee to make sure it is done correctly.thanks,mike e.

#23670

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Date: Sun Feb 6, 2011 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent

taxi_steve929

Xylol is xylene.

***Learn about xylol before using it. Never let a coin soak in Xylol. Always brush a coin before and after applying and then apply a little care or blue ribbon and if you wish to not use xylol, the brushing and addition of a thin layer of the preservative is recommended for long term storage.

***I NEVER do this with Mint State coins, but some do. It may affect toning.

http://www.xylol.com/

You can buy it at a hardware store, but usually in huge containers. I still use this little container. I have the 1/2 gallon out in the shed and refill this once a year. (I buy a lot of old coppers and it's the first thing I do. You have to brush the coin afterwards. Then you have to apply care or blue ribbon. I would suggest practicing with this. Don't leave the coin is this. Use a sterile Q-tip, wooden preferred...I forget why, but I went with the EAC suggestions. I've attached a photo of the xylol bottle I got from Rod Burress way back when and I still use it. (refills) Also the brush I use. I have it marked "wet"...others dry, and old ones to use for hard brushing really cruddy coins. I have 6 in total and they are great.

Please remember I do not have many Mint State coins. I use the xylol on what I collect, but be careful as it may add a bluish hue to copper, as any preservative might. proper cleaning, or a better word, preservation, is a neccesity with copper coins. Just about every colonial coin you've seen sold through stacks or any other large auction house, slabbed or not slabbed, has had this very process performed.

steve

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:

From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 3:19 PM

what exactly is xylol and where can one purchase it?

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...> wrote:

From: Steve Frank <taxi_steve929@...>
Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 3:16 PM

I've used xylol since an EAC member in the early 80's. when they say to make sure you use it in a well ventilated area, they aren't just being overly cautious. That combined with the distilled water rinsing and in my case, some care or blue ribbon lightly brushed on, then into an acid free paper holder.

With verdigris, I also won't store them with my other coins...supposedly the coins have to be touching for the verdigris to spread from coin to coin, but why even chance that it can spread airborne when it's pretty easy to just keep them stored separately.

I have som guys in another group who purchased that stuff being touted online and ebay that is supposed to eliminate verdigris, and so far, they've had mixed results, but I'm waiting to see if anything happens after a year. When removing verdigris, you will ineveitably leave some pitting, so it's up to the coin owner which he prefers. Regardless of the cleaning, I agree wholeheartly with Fred on keeping the card. Its history, adds something to provenance, and will increase the value to those who like that. It's like owning a Norweb coin with the Norweb holder, with the spider web on it....it's something collectors will pay extra to have.

--- On Sun, 2/6/11, fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: fred_weinberg <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Jim Heine/ double struck cent
To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 1:04 PM

The coin is real, and these "FDC"s were put together
by Jim Heine, an active error collector in the
San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

I'd suggest using acetone on the Cent when you
get it - yes, it should be removed so that the
pvc contamination stops; keep the cover - it's
a nice momento of the earlier days of the error
coin hobby......

--- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, Rob Risi <rjrisi@...> wrote:
>
> sure looks like corrosion for sure and i wouldn't have gone higher than 25 bucks on such a coin....nice coin if it wasn't corroded....2 dates dsbs, but for 94 bucks, NO!
>
> Â Â Â ~ROB RISI~Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
>
> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Evanchik <ivan0000013@...>
> Subject: Re: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
>
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> im hoping its just some schmutz on the plastic covering.
>
> --- On Sun, 2/6/11, Travis <travisbolton543@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Travis <travisbolton543@...>
> Subject: [Error Coin Information Exchange] Re: double struck cent
> To: errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 12:08 PM
>
>
> Â
>
> I am concerned about the reverse of this coin, it looks corroded in the picture. Otherwise it's a nice error.
>
> --- In errorcoininformationexchange@yahoogroups.com, "Michael E" <ivan0000013@> wrote:
> >
> > i dont usually post things like this but i was so excited i just had to.i cant beleive there wasnt much interest in this cent.unless its fake and i just got taken,id pay $100 all day for this error type.to me it seems to be a 1974 lincoln memorial cent, double struck, with an indent on the second strike.it has 2 full dates and is DSBS.these double dated cents have been garnering very strong prices lately,so for the price,i think it was a steal.best regards,mike e.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=280623144405&si=bPVT4jcOf6bQdzDd2uEsPQu0qiE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AUS%3A1123
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