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Everyone,

In the comments area of the following TeleRead blog article, written
by Aaron Miller (who subscribes to this group), a few of us discussed
whether or not a future version of OPS should allow scripts in OPS
content documents:


http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/04/11/book-offered-or-kept-digital-reading-wit\
hout-epub/


The discussion did get a little bit warm since the script proponents
are quite passionate.

Since a couple folk here (besides yours truly) contributed to the OPS/
OPF specifications, hopefully they will weigh in with their thoughts
(I already gave some of my thoughts in the TeleRead comments area.)

Jon Noring






Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:50 pm

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Everyone, In the comments area of the following TeleRead blog article, written by Aaron Miller (who subscribes to this group), a few of us discussed whether or...
Jon Noring
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Apr 18, 2008
11:51 pm

... For me this is not an issue at the moment. The book industry is quite large these days and if the goals of the IDPF are interpreted that they wish to allow...
Mike Cook
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Apr 19, 2008
2:01 pm

From: "Mike Cook" ... This might bring up again the question of the purpose of epub. The previous most adaptable standard - pdf - is attempting to keep abreast...
joseph h
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Apr 20, 2008
4:27 am

... I fully agree about your remark that introducing scripting is tied with the purpose of epub: Should it be a standard defining a multiplatform "browser",...
apierrot79
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Apr 20, 2008
5:42 pm

Epub is mainly for traditional-style books, and they don't need scripting. That would be an easily defendable position: Traditional books (etc) are a distinct,...
hxa7241
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Apr 20, 2008
4:08 pm

From: "hxa7241" ... hxa [do you have a name?], I am getting more confused. First 'traditional books (etc)' may be crystal clear to you, but I don't know what...
joseph h
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Apr 21, 2008
6:24 pm

Will ePub be able to handle charts that are created in Adobe CS and then formatted into a PDF? Jessica Callender [Non-text portions of this message have been...
ladyluck1639
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Apr 22, 2008
4:52 am

... and then formatted into a PDF? No (practically speaking...). Use SVG for charts: Adobe Illustrator saves it (probably), and Epub software should understand...
Harrison
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Apr 22, 2008
3:06 pm

Relevance of scripting to ePub depends on what the purpose IDPF had by writing of ePub spec. If the purpose was to provide kind of standard format for the...
sopalais
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Apr 22, 2008
3:07 pm

... I don't think there's much question about this. IDPF is an industry association that seeks to promote electronic publishing. It's principle constituents...
Todd Jonz
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Apr 23, 2008
4:49 am

... As others who contributed to the OPS/OPF/OCF specs will attest, I have tended to take a conservative view that it is better to be restrictive at the...
Jon Noring
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Apr 23, 2008
5:22 am

... Thanks for clarifying that, Jon. In my mind, that had become 'must not' execute scripts, or maybe I'm thinking of an older draft. 'Should not' is still...
Aaron Miller
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Apr 23, 2008
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... It is an informative (advisory) statement directed to OPS Publication authors. ... As I've noted *several* times, using web browsers to render ...
Jon Noring
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Apr 23, 2008
3:25 pm

... Compressed set of files cannot be rendered in current major browsers except Internet Explorer, which can handle MHT archives. In order to render compressed...
sopalais
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Apr 23, 2008
9:03 pm

... Interesting question. It seems to me that native browser support for a ZIP container could be beneficial to other applications besides ePub readers. For...
Todd Jonz
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Apr 24, 2008
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... Oooh, now we get into an interesting topic, with a lot of facets to it. Let me focus on one facet germane to what Todd brought up above... Lee Passey,...
Jon Noring
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Apr 24, 2008
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... Okay, I'll bite. Educate me. You've clearly given this matter far more thought than I have. I was imagining something exceedingly simple -- expand the...
Todd Jonz
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Apr 25, 2008
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Since others are mentioning their formats or specs, I will mention the open source Kymera packaging format. http://www.codeplex.com/FSKymera -Michael ...
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Apr 25, 2008
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For those interested in "generalized container formats", I would also recommend that you look at Adobe's UCF (Universal Container Format) which is our...
Leonard Rosenthol
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Apr 25, 2008
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... Thanks! It took me a little while to dig up the UCF spec, but here is where I found it: ...
Jon Noring
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Apr 25, 2008
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The reason that UCF requires mimetype is to establish a way for processors to differentiate what type of "file" this is - Mars, AIR, OEBPS, etc. since we don't...
Leonard Rosenthol
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Apr 25, 2008
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... Beer is great! Anyway, until we meet over beer, I have three comments to make regarding the 'mimetype' file requirement as currently envisioned: 1) Adding...
Jon Noring
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Apr 25, 2008
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I was thinking about this over the weekend and I believe I see things more clearly now... It's clear to me now that the reason that we took the route we did...
Leonard Rosenthol
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Apr 28, 2008
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... Yes, I thought that maybe our slightly different perspectives were due to differences in our definition of "universality/generality". ... Yes, I was...
Jon Noring
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Apr 28, 2008
2:51 pm

... This raises an interesting question: what is IDPF's stance toward non-compliant readers like Openberg Lector, which does, in fact, render content in...
Todd Jonz
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Apr 24, 2008
8:37 pm

... Hmmm, what OPS says about "rendering" the content in <script> is to actually render the script *as* text. OPS allows reading systems to *execute* script,...
Jon Noring
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Apr 24, 2008
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... The IDPF is definitely industry-oriented, but could do better to take a more consumer-centric approach things. Right now, consumers want printed books,...
Aaron Miller
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Apr 23, 2008
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... You're right, of course. I meant to include all the modern UNIX derivatives under the UNIX banner. I should have been more clear. ... Oh, but I think it...
Todd Jonz
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Apr 24, 2008
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First off, let me introduce myself. I'm an olde pharte technogeek that works with both Windows and Linux. Although I've been writing for awhile, I've only been...
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