David Salo <dsalo@...> wrote
> If kaimasan 'bedchamber' were derived from an original *kaimastamb, I
>suppose it would have the form kaimastan in Quenya (cf. sandastan
>'shield-barrier' from original *thandastam). The form which actually
>appears is evidently a later compound.
> But in early forms of Quenya (including that of the Noldor led by
>Feanor), I guess the pronunciation of sambe "chamber" was *thambe; that
>just as sp- had become f-, and sk- had become ch- (later h-), so also st-
>had become th- in early Quenya. -s- had become -z- long before the very
>late change (documented in 'The Shibboleth of Feanor') of -th- to -s-; so
>even an early compound *kaima-than could only have become kaimasan, never
I don't think that sp- gave f directely in Quenya. There was a middle stage
(still preserved in "Classical Quenya", I guess), f being "normal" in
Quenya Noldorin (?only).
sp- > ph- (p aspirated, e.g. as in English pink) > f-,
sk- > kh- (k aspirated) > h- (no /x/ stage);
st- > th- (t aspirated) > s- ; *without* a stage of a full th (like in
This is deduced from LOTR App E : "The original Feanorian system also
possessed a grade with extended stems, both above and below the line. These
usually represented aspirated consonants (e.g. t+h, p+h, k+h), but might
represent other consonantal variations required."
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