David Salo <dsalo@...> wrote ... is, ... I don't think that sp- gave f directely in Quenya. There was a middle stage (still preserved in "Classical...
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Fredrik Ström
frestro@...
Oct 5, 1998 11:05 pm
... I don't quite follow you. Do you mean that _enin, emil_ may parallell German "Ich heisse x", "Du heisst x"; Icel. "eg heiti x", "thu heitir x"; &c (read...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Oct 5, 1998 11:05 pm
"Helge K. Fauskanger" <helge.fauskanger@...> <snip> ... - ... word ... I agree on this. <snip> ... I see that we agree here too. ... We could keep...
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Rich Alderson
ALDERSON@...
Oct 5, 1998 12:11 am
... Hittite does indeed have two verbal paradigms: The -mi conjugation and the -hi conjugation. The latter is a Hittite innovation, based on a reanalysis of...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 5, 1998 12:11 am
I can agree with almost everything David Salo said about the problems with some of the "Qenya" words in TY- that Ed listed. Just a few comments. ... *kyas-; if...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Oct 5, 1998 12:11 am
... [snip] ... is ... and ... **This one I cannot offer any explanation for, though it fits with the others as far as its position in the alphabet (not the...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 5, 1998 12:11 am
... I agree, but I see that genius as manifested not only in the particular forms of individual words in his languages, but in their relationships with other...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Oct 4, 1998 7:12 pm
... letter ... Absolutely! ;-) ... any ... Qenya/Eldarissa is a tongue made by JRR Tolkien, so it is not just any other language. Modern Elvish is in a sense a...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Oct 4, 1998 7:11 pm
... Tyetl is taken from "Parmaeldalamberon" 12, that is from the Qenya Lexicon, and I think that in Modern Elvish tyetl could be "modernized" as tyetil. ...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Oct 4, 1998 7:11 pm
... Sorry to say, I have been meaning to retract my statement on that matter but had not yet found the time in my busy schedule. I had confused two passages...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Oct 3, 1998 7:29 pm
... Okay, this is a good place to start -- but in my opinion, we can't finish here. Many of these words (derived from the Qenya Lexicon) simply aren't ...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Oct 3, 1998 5:33 pm
... [snip] ... Elvish will ... academy, it does ... Elvish ... Tolklang ... absolute ... On this basis, I really don't think people are so far apart. ...
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Felipe Aichele
faichele@...
Oct 3, 1998 4:54 pm
... Yes, and Italian and Romanian use both verbs, though Tenere/A Tine is rather used for immediate possession. What happens when we have "harya", which is...
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Felipe Aichele
faichele@...
Oct 3, 1998 4:54 pm
... Yes, there must be such Dictionary. But it should include the different versions that exist for many features. None is too right, none is too wrong. Many...
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B.Philip.Jonsson
bpj@...
Oct 3, 1998 4:53 pm
... Well, OK my Sanskrit is certainly better than my Latin, but the frequency of _habere_ is many times lower than the esse + dative construction. Moreover I...
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hiasl@...
Oct 3, 1998 4:53 pm
Today I finnished a Tengwar-Editor for my font . If anyone wants to use it or make changes on it please e-mail me . The program is written for DOS and needs...
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hiasl@...
Oct 3, 1998 4:53 pm
... How ? Mansse wande ? @%%{@##\]#\]#} /@{\[##} ? Noane tultatye ta' qettlinnar elflingo . @##^@{@##\[##} [#&/\[#{$@} [#\[{ /[}[#\[#\/|@##\@##\{@#...
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Dorothea Salo
dmrovner@...
Oct 2, 1998 1:20 am
... Several of them *don't* have that verb for "to possess" any longer; it's been completely de-semanticized and dumped into helping-verb position, its...
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REPRO
repro@...
Oct 1, 1998 10:46 pm
Hello everybody, I'm a brazilian vet, 32 years old, that love all the Tolkien's world. I'm looking for news, discussions, tips, etc, about the Middle Earth. ...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Oct 1, 1998 10:46 pm
... Perhaps I'm wrong here (if I am would someone please tell me so and _why_), but wouldn't porocelle undergo syncope to give _porcelle_? It seems to me that...
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Felipe Aichele
faichele@...
Oct 1, 1998 10:45 pm
... I quite agree. If "habere" wouldn't have been used in "real" everyday latin, romance languages wouldn't have that verb for "posess". Anyway, there are some...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Oct 1, 1998 1:49 am
This is how a Dictionary with all words published to date [Only the letter TY is proposed] from Qenya and Quenya would look like without any "choosing". The...
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Dorothea Salo
dmrovner@...
Oct 1, 1998 1:49 am
Much of the rest of what I have to say will be repetitive, because several people have made these or similar arguments already. A fairly common mode of...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Sep 30, 1998 10:12 pm
... Tolkien did make a word for apple and egg, it is in the "early" Qenya (of the Book of Lost Tales) published last month in Parmaeldalamberon 12. So our...
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hiasl@...
Sep 29, 1998 10:41 pm
... Well , maybe you forgot the word for it in Latin but Latin has a verb for to have which is "habere" , which changed to Spanish "haber" , French "avoir" , ...
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Felipe Aichele
faichele@...
Sep 29, 1998 10:40 pm
I'm new on the list, and I'd like to introduce myself. I am Felipe Aichele and I was born in Santiago, Chile, where I've always lived. I apologize beforehand...
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B.Philip.Jonsson
bpj@...
Sep 29, 1998 1:48 am
... Neither Latin nor Sanskrit has a "have" verb. Both use yhe verb for "be" with the possessor put in the dative and the possessed in the nominative: e.g....
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Minya1@...
Sep 29, 1998 1:48 am
... are largely self-contained >language varieties. The rules, though, don't necessarily come from rulemakers, self-appointed or >otherwise. They arise ...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Sep 28, 1998 12:43 am
**I thought I sent this yesterday, but apparently, I forgot to hit the button. ... ** Well, some of us are :-). But the French don't pay any attention to...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Sep 28, 1998 12:43 am
**snipping quite a bit of stuff, most unmarked. ... Elvish, I am saddened by Lisa's anarchic attitude. To the extent such attitudes prevail (she is not alone...