... questions ... understand, N. I quite understand your misunderstanding. Tolkien used the word Noldorin for TWO quite distinct languages. Noldorin was always...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
... Noldorin has two different meanings, according to the (real) time period in which Tolkien was using the term. A. Before 1950. At this time Noldorin meant...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
... I think you could use one word, Oiertaina "Ever-united", i.e. oio "ever"+ertaina past participle of *erta- unite (cf. Mereth Ad-erthad, feast of re-uniting...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
... http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/ web sight? Thank you. I should mention that my site can now be reached using the following address, that is much easier to...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
Unis pour toujours: Il existe un mot "sam-" 'unir', 'joindre' (dans les Etymologies). Le participe du passive (ou du passé) serait "samina" pluriel "saminar"....
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
... You're misunderstanding my misuse of the IPA! ;-) All the words and forms you've mention has the sound [z], as in engilsh _zoo_. I was speaking about...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
May 12, 1999 11:33 pm
... Both words are found; umbar is given as a letter-name in the list of tengwar, and the form Umbarto meaning "the fated" appears as the name of a son of...
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stonefeather@...
May 14, 1999 1:18 am
Thanks for the clarification; I was not familiar with the ascii version of the IPA, so naturally took your "[Z]" to mean the English z ([z]). Where could I...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 14, 1999 1:18 am
... forever". _Ertaine tennoio_ should do, reconstructing a Quenya word_erta-_ "unite" on the basis of Sindarin _ertha-_ (cf. _Mereth Aderthad_, The Feast of ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
May 14, 1999 1:18 am
... Isn't _umbar_ simply _ambar_ with a prefix _u-_ (or _ú-_)? _Úmanyar_ is translated "those not of Aman", evidently ú-Aman-ya-r ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 14, 1999 1:48 am
... "ever"+ertaina past participle of *erta- unite (cf. Mereth Ad-erthad, feast of re-uniting in Sindarin). But you could also say Ertaina Tennoio "United ...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
May 15, 1999 12:09 pm
Helge Fauskanger ... You're certainly right about it being plural; I should have checked back to the original French, which says uni_s_ pour toujours. But I...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
May 15, 1999 12:09 pm
Aiya! ... "maa" - ... the ... So they belong to the "external history"? But such roots in "internal history" - do they exist? Are they available? ... my ... ...
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Dominique Breton
dominique.breton@...
May 15, 1999 12:09 pm
I gat translations for ("United forever" ; "Unis pour toujours", en français). Wich one is the best "(nalwe) ertaine tennoio" "saminar tennoio" "saminar...
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markwol@...
May 15, 1999 12:09 pm
My name is Mark Wolstenholme, age 29 I just found this list by messing about on the egroups search engine. I have been trying to learn the Elvish languages...
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C17GMaster@...
May 15, 1999 12:09 pm
Hello, all. I am new to this mailing list and was immediately startled by the wide 'vocabulary' of the Elvish language that everyone seems to know. Where are...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 16, 1999 12:42 am
David Salo wrote: ...I wonder about ertain_e_; can we be sure that the ending -e is used on adjectives in every situation? I think it may not be. When the ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 16, 1999 12:42 am
... but I don't know any Elven or Dwarven words. Could anybody offer a web site? I am aware, from an e-mail, that Sindarin does not have a devoted dictionary....
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lindril@...
May 16, 1999 2:22 am
Mr. Fauskanger's excellent Ardalambion site gives _lala-_ as Quenya for "laugh". Would the present participle then be "lálala" ? :) Also, how would you...
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Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
May 16, 1999 2:22 am
... The FAQ writing group is up and running. It's another eGroup, and its name is elfaq. Here are its policies, with my explanation in parentheses: 1) Only...
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Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
May 16, 1999 2:22 am
... In the interests of fact (and because Helge's phrasing made me as moderator somewhat queasy; a "flaming campaign" is decidedly a matter of an individual's...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
May 16, 1999 4:07 pm
Shouldn't 'to laugh' be derived from a root LAI- ? (On the basis of "Lalaith"). This would then be the same root as in "laita" 'to praise' (orig. 'to ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
May 16, 1999 4:07 pm
Helge wrote: [snip] ... [snip] Couldn't you simply contact the Estate and ask them whether they would be angry or not if you published these lists? After all,...
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Gilraen
gilraen@...
May 16, 1999 4:07 pm
Hi everyone... Since I'm new on the Elfling group, I thought I should introduce myself. I name myself Gilraen, a name that I think will be known to all of you....
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Fredrik Ström
frestro@...
May 16, 1999 6:16 pm
Helge Fauskanger wrote (quoting David Salo): [DS:] ... [HF:] ... I agree... sort of. Perhaps predicative adjectives behave much like *verbs* in Q (after all,...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
May 16, 1999 10:49 pm
... "laugh". Would the present participle then be "lálala" ? :) (Thank you about the "excellent" part.) Yes, this would seem to be the Elvish word for...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
May 16, 1999 10:49 pm
... There's a note, not about Lalaith "laughter"; but about Lalwen, a daughter of Finwe and Indis, whose full Quenya name was Lalwende "laughing maiden"; this...
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Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
May 16, 1999 11:37 pm
David Kiltz posted in French: United forever: There is a word "sam-" "unite", "join" (in the Etymologies). The passive (or past) participle would be "samina",...
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Fredrik Ström
f.strom@...
May 18, 1999 1:25 am
... But in Etym, Q laiqa corresponds to N lhoeb; and this seems compatible with the note in Q&E (WJ:412) saying that S -eb is from ikwaa, Common Telerin -ipaa....
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
May 18, 1999 1:25 am
Emerging from the shadows of lurkunóre... ... Yes. And "continually laughing" would be _lalálala_ :) Suilaid! -- Måns Björkman...
