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  • Founded: Sep 5, 1998
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Bjorn Fromen is right writting that the doubled mutation: CE _*mapá-_ > OS _*maba-_ > S _**mava-_ couldn't occur in Sindarin. My mistake. Sorry. Maybe the...
3 May 22, 2001
9:55 am

David Kiltz
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... I don't know about spanish Spanish but in South America (Chile, Argentina) "jota" as in _ají_ (hot sauce) is pronounced similarly. Try pronouncing an "i"...
2 May 22, 2001
8:32 am

David Kiltz
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... Hey, give us your Czech name! We like a challenge - why else would we be doing tolkienian linguistics? ... Feel welcome. I hope you'll find the list...
1 May 20, 2001
4:40 pm

Andreas Johansson
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jodvar deithant: So my question is : is there any rule when to write óre and when rómen? It's been covered a few times, but since you're new, here goes! Use...
1 May 20, 2001
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In a recent tv interview, Liv Tyler gave an example of a Sindarin phrase that will apparently appear in the movies. A sound clip is available from the address ...
3 May 20, 2001
3:56 pm

Ryszard Derdzinski
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Hi, I'm just new to elfling, so I want to introduce myself a bit : I am from Czech republic (that small piece of land between Russia and Germany), my name is...
1 May 20, 2001
3:31 pm

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... What does _verbum sapientibus_ mean? Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from...
3 May 19, 2001
11:31 pm

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I was doing a list of Quenya consonants for a Spanish course I'm writing (similar to Helge's but way more basic, the vowel part is a lot shorter thanks to...
15 May 19, 2001
1:09 pm

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... I should caution that, at least among English speakers, the "sh" sound is often pronounced with some lip-rounding, and there should be no lip-rounding with...
4 May 19, 2001
12:14 pm

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Dear Elendili, I want to inform you that my linguistic website 'Gwaith-i-Pheddain&#39; (at http://necik.mag.com.pl/~galadhorn) will soon move to the US. Since June...
1 May 18, 2001
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My best friend contiunaly messes up Gandalf's color. He keeps saying that Gandalf starts out as Gandalf the White, then becomes Gandalf the Grey. After a...
1 May 18, 2001
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I'd like to put in a few pennies' worth on the Spanish question myself, seeing as how I did four years of pena -- er, graduate study of Hispanic linguistics,...
2 May 18, 2001
10:51 am

John Cowan
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... Spain's Spanish is known (not considered a standard, though, that's more what Spain wants than anything), mainly the ceceo. Also, we argentinians have a...
1 May 18, 2001
3:26 am

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... You mean "Sindarin ch=[x]",don't you? (Quenya does not posses it) Lukas...
2 May 17, 2001
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... I can't. I mean, you may be right; I suspect you are right; but I don't see how to demonstrate it. ... I still don't see how to rule it out as a...
2 May 16, 2001
6:34 pm

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I was reading Helge's course and found the sentence "cenitas farya nin" which is translated "seeing it is enough for me", and I immediately saw how much it...
3 May 16, 2001
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To Angasúle: Since most people studying Quenya are native Anglophones, they tend to use the definite article much less than speakers of Romance languages. 'La...
2 May 15, 2001
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There was a palatal tectal (or platalized velar)_KY_ in PQ. That became at some time _TY_ in Quenya. Assuming the sound shift to be regular we end up with a...
4 May 15, 2001
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David Kiltz
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... There are obvious differences, of course, mostly due to constraints on the typefaces available (in print or on a typewriter) to Tolkien; he could not...
2 May 15, 2001
8:41 am

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... Yes, stress it on the e. Probably a better form would be lairetyar (short forms tend to be used in words of this length, cf. Sorontar vs. taaro, Nuumenor...
4 May 15, 2001
8:41 am

David Kiltz
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... I should have been more precise, but I didn't have my books with me. Page 68 of _The Road Goes Ever On_ provides a facsimile of a written transcription of...
1 May 15, 2001
1:11 am

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A few days ago I made the word lairetyaro poem-doer, as a translation of Spanish 'versero&#39; = verse-doer, it means someone who likes to 'versear&#39; (the...
5 May 14, 2001
7:52 pm

Andreas Johansson
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... That's only relevant if you assume that Tolkien's work was completely coherent and consistent in all of its stages of development. There's enough evidence...
3 May 14, 2001
11:01 am

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... What I like on this solution is that it does not require to regard the word as irregularity. But is there any analogical "devocalisation" of "-i-" after a...
1 May 13, 2001
3:57 pm

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"erukyerme&quot;... one of the words that bring us trouble... one of the canditates to be misread by Christopher Tolkien from another word... some think that maybe...
10 May 13, 2001
12:42 pm

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... This seems to me the most likely explanation, in view of another instance of Q. -ky- that surfaced recently. In one of the "Notes on _Óre_", published in...
1 May 10, 2001
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Suilad, mellyn! My name is Ryan Cross and I just joined this list. I'm writing this message to introduce myself as well as share a brief text in Quenya and a...
5 May 10, 2001
8:59 am

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Hello, I've been a lurker here for a while, and have decided to break my silence because I have a semi-urgent question, my current poem being impossible to...
2 May 10, 2001
7:14 am

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Aiya! I have been pondering the subject of Quenya ordinal numbers for some time now, and have been unable to find any attested besides _minya_ "first" _tatya_...
2 May 6, 2001
8:13 pm

Andreas Johansson
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Rejoice all ye people; I have just uploaded Lesson 14 of my Quenya course (added to the file that already contains lessons 11, 12, and 13; you'll have to...
1 May 2, 2001
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