Aiya! ... EJK> I urge not to. :-( EJK> I do _100%_ disaprouve this scheme of making new-words before we have a *good* EJK> and *sound* understanding of...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:27 am
... <snip> I'm not interested in Boris Shapiro New Quenya at all. Or anybody else new made Word for that matter. If what I fear happens... Very soon no one...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:29 am
... Only 200 copies have been printed. Never saw a copy for sale (yet). But you can e-mail and ask those who have a copy. ;-) Namárie EJK...
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D. Daniel Andriës
uialdil@...
Mar 1, 2001 10:48 am
Edward J. Kloczko wrote: The Mode of Beleriand used for the Sindarin was made by the Noldor, not the Sindar (who used the Cirth). And if halla was ever used in...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:07 am
D. Daniel Andriës a écrit: <snip> ... Yes who knows... But as you say it is "nearly always". I sure you knew that the plurial of _alph_ is _eilph_ and/or...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 1, 2001 5:59 pm
... Note however that there's plenty of loanwords in English that do not keep the original plural (eg 'churches39;, 'mints39;) - it's really only fairly ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 1, 2001 6:21 pm
... The point is that in order to actually SPEAK Quenya, one at the moment HAS to invent/derive new words. There's simply to many items missing in the current...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Mar 1, 2001 7:30 pm
Aiya! ... EJK> <snip> EJK> I'm not interested in Boris Shapiro New Quenya at all. Very interesting. Since when I have made a new version of Quenya? Maybe I...
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David Chapman
varie_undomiel@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:16 pm
Here follows the second in my Quenya poem cycle. This one is entitled Roomen. All the help and advice with corrections I received with my last poem was most...
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Didier
didier.willis@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:35 pm
... Being mentioned in this controversial discussion, I feel the need to reply and give *one* opinion (not necessarily the *only* one;-). While I agree with...
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junni@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:36 pm
In fact, why do you want _formen_ in plural? Are there more norths in _your world_? :-) If the result would be too uncertain, and the occasion was nonsense, is...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:43 pm
... Formen has not only one meaning, e.g. north (region). It is also the name of a "tengwa". So you could say/write : "The two formen(s) you drew are ugly/nice...
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Didier
didier.willis@...
Mar 1, 2001 8:49 pm
... Actually, _onod_ "Ent" is given with two plural forms in the Letters, _enyd_ or _ened_, the latter being a Gondorian form. The same "rule" may conceivably ...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:17 pm
Aiya! ... D> Being mentioned in this controversial discussion, I feel the D> need to reply and give *one* opinion (not necessarily the D> *only* one;-). Thank...
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DDanielA@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:22 pm
I wasn't referring to 'formen39; = 'north39;, but 'formen39; = 'tengwa f'. It is quite possible to have more than than one such letter 'f' on a single page...the...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:45 pm
What I mean is that when Tolkien does gives us a Sindarin/Noldorin Word without its etymology (Old Sindarin/Old Noldorin form) or if we cannot relate it to a...
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D. Daniel Andriës
uialdil@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:50 pm
Andreas wrote: And IF "formen" was the normal word for this letter in S, I find it highly likely that it did not a retain a weird (by S standards) plural like ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:56 pm
Boris Shapiro a écrit: <snip> ... Who's desperate? Who are these "people"? They _need_ it? Really? Are they amnesiac Elves? You Boris, only you need _all of...
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Finsen, Graeme John H...
finsen@...
Mar 1, 2001 11:57 pm
Just make them up, and feel free to present them here for critism? Ancalimon ... From: Edward J. Kloczko [mailto:ejk@...] Sent: Friday, 2 March 2001 9:58 ...
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Myrtheos@...
Mar 2, 2001 4:37 am
In a message dated 3/1/01 1:30:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, and_yo@... writes: << >I do not agree. Yes study means "work" and in ... I disagree about...
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Cirk Bejnar
eluchil@...
Mar 2, 2001 4:57 am
... True, but the same could be said for English or Italian. All languages have excpetions. Plural formation in Sindarin is complex but not random or...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Mar 2, 2001 5:47 am
Cuio mae, vellyn bain! I want to inform you that the "Gwaith-i-Pheddain" website has a new department: "Tengwar Calligraphy". D. Daniel Andriës was so kind...
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Lisa Star
amlug4@...
Mar 2, 2001 6:07 am
... [snipped much] ... **Do you have a website up yet? What is the address? You probably said it before on this list, but I can't find it. Thanks, if you...
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kiltzd@...
Mar 2, 2001 8:37 am
... Probably, but not neccesarily. Perhaps no plural of _formen_ (as a letter/tengwa) was formed. As you say in English "two beer" (if ordering) not *"two...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Mar 2, 2001 10:21 am
Aiya! ... LS> **Do you have a website up yet? What is the address? You probably said it LS> before on this list, but I can't find it. Thanks, if you could...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Mar 2, 2001 10:21 am
Aiya! ... EJK> Who's desperate? EJK> Who are these "people"? They _need_ it? Really? Are they amnesiac Elves? EJK> You Boris, only you need _all of this_ ......
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John Cowan
cowan@...
Mar 2, 2001 11:56 am
... You are wrong. "Beer" is a mass noun, but in the sense "glass of beer", it becomes an ordinary noun and can be plural, so "two beers" is exactly right. --...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:36 pm
Suilad Lemmellyn (which should be the Sindarin for Q. Lambendili, shouldn't it?) So here's antoher piece of the so-called "poetry" (what I write is usually...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:36 pm
Suilad This a revised version of the puzzle. To save your time, here is a list of corrections and a few more remarks: 1) In order not to meddle with lenition...
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kiltzd@...
Mar 2, 2001 3:35 pm
... I "feared" as much ! So I have to resort to my native German where, indeed you say "zwei Bier", not "zwei Biere" (which wd be plural). Or the latter wd...