[Cross-posted to TolkLang and Elfling] Dear friends, First of all, thanks for your feedback and all the comments I have received so far regarding the Sindarin ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Feb 7, 2001 1:06 am
... The Plotz Letter is a very small but a very important document (easily obtainable). This is why a copy of it should be in the hands of *all* student of...
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David Nowakowski
aragorn250@...
Feb 8, 2001 1:39 am
... How would I go about obtaining it? Namárië, David Nowakowski Meldon Vinyamaro _________________________________________________________________ Get your...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Feb 9, 2001 8:50 pm
Once upon a time there was a "lost" declension chart of pronouns. :-) Published long ago, 7 years, my oh my, in VT36 ; no one talked about them. Not even on...
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Ice Pick
icepick3000@...
Feb 9, 2001 10:07 pm
Aiya, good people! I have been working on my site considerably in the past few weeks. I am working on a languages page, which includes information about my...
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Saulotus@...
Feb 10, 2001 2:17 am
... Not a problem. ... languages invented by JRR Tolkien. I saw the intro. I've never actually studied the languages on more than a cursory level. An analysis...
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kiltzd@...
Feb 10, 2001 5:15 pm
... Very interesting ! Where now do you get the meanings from ? Cd you update me on that ? (I don't have VT 36...) -David Kiltz...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Feb 10, 2001 11:05 pm
[it's a part of the text "Northern Dialect of Sindarin" by me. The full text will be soon available on my website] Now I want to propose a different timetable...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Feb 10, 2001 11:06 pm
Thank you, Edouard, for reminding us about this interesting document. "The _Entu_ Declension" should be known by everybody who is really interested in the...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad@...
Feb 11, 2001 2:49 pm
Hi all, I have decided to make up a linguistic puzzle on Sindarin material. For those who do not know what a linguistic puzzle is: see the link ...
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Pavel Iosad
pavel_iosad@...
Feb 11, 2001 2:52 pm
Hi again, I've just found out that my stupid Outlook has left out all the circumflexes in my previous letter (Expert opinion needed). Sorry. Sorry again Pavel...
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Sin Claire
valkyrie8814_2001@...
Feb 11, 2001 6:11 pm
... I'm disgusted. Borrowing someones nasty comp with only AOheL on it... Sin ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get...
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DDanielA@...
Feb 11, 2001 11:09 pm
Didn't proof-read the whole thing, Pavel, but as for your questions: 1.) it should be "bith": the initial consonant of a direct objected is lenited. There are...
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kiltzd@...
Feb 12, 2001 10:14 am
... I think it shd be _peda_ as _penna_, _aniira_ for the present tense. ... I'd say "peth in ithryn tulu in (rather _ain) erain. It's definitely _in_ for the...
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kiltzd@...
Feb 12, 2001 10:32 am
If I remember correctly there was an elvish (Sindarin) sentence on the map of the "Hobbit", giving the size of the "secret entrance". However I can't get hold...
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didier.willis@...
Feb 12, 2001 1:19 pm
... The sentence (actually in 'Noldorin' from the pre-LotR stage) is reproduced in Hammond and Scull's _Tolkien, Artist & Illustrator_. It was written on the...
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didier.willis@...
Feb 12, 2001 1:19 pm
... The sentence (actually in 'Noldorin' from the pre-LotR stage) is reproduced in Hammond and Scull's _Tolkien, Artist & Illustrator_. It was written on the...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Feb 12, 2001 1:38 pm
The pronoun declension chart of "entu, ensi, enta, en, assun, assint, assant, endunt" was published in VT. Which means that _anyone_ can have a copy of it. It...
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Lukas Novak
lukas.novak@...
Feb 12, 2001 2:04 pm
Hello, ... What about the speech of Gondolin? Was that the northern dialect, or any else? ... But many sindarinized Men were left and gone to Nuumenor - they...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Feb 12, 2001 6:29 pm
... The long vowels of Sindarin, as _ê_, _û_ can be written on Elfling also as _ee_, _uu_. EJK...
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Lisa Star
amlug4@...
Feb 13, 2001 4:41 am
... [much snipped] ... **There is a 15 page legal opinion on my website that addresses the issue of the copyright of languages. The site is ...
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Julian Bradfield
jcb@...
Feb 13, 2001 11:34 am
... One should note that this interesting and helpful, if discourteous, opinion refers to U.S. law only, and is mostly concerned with uses that only the more...
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Javier Lorenzo
javilm@...
Feb 13, 2001 6:15 pm
... **The object of the verb suffers usually soft mutation: _I orthor gyth iin_ (i with cincurflex) ... **In Vinyar Tengwar 41 we have the phrase _guren beed...
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kiltzd@...
Feb 13, 2001 10:01 pm
... You're right, however, I personally doubt these forms to be correct. ... Well you're probably right. At least it there shd be lenition after the plural,...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Feb 14, 2001 6:30 am
Mae govannen! ... As Helge Fauskanger writes in his "Ardalambion": "In a Noldo-colony like Gondolin one might have thought that the Noldor would have revived...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Feb 14, 2001 5:12 pm
... ** Nice idea. ... ** _I aran orthor gyth în_ (lenition of object, and long vowel in _în_). ... ** _I ithron bêd bith_ (lenition of verb following its...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 14, 2001 6:21 pm
... "ON" have _kelepe_, which cannot well be the sourse of AT _tel(e)pe_ - they must both be derived from earlier _kjelepe(e)_. So I'm afraid we still need to...
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Lalaith
andreas.moehn@...
Feb 14, 2001 7:21 pm
Von: Ryszard Derdzinski <galadhorn@...> ... Which is odd enough, for the Gondolindrim were essentially the same individuals who had left Vinyamar a few...
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kiltzd@...
Feb 14, 2001 8:21 pm
... Why not ? Sindarin was the language of common converse in Beleriand. The people who later founded Gondolin, wd have conversed with Sindarin-speaking...
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Cirk Bejnar
eluchil@...
Feb 14, 2001 9:05 pm
... <snip> ... I think that David's response (while true in and of itself) misses the thruast of Lailath's question. Sindarin was the native tongue on most of...
