... **well, you'll be able to use it, which is the important thing. ... **not till after I've published it. Sorry, don't know date, and I probably shouldn't...
4157
Ales Bican
bican@...
Jan 24, 2001 7:19 pm
Some time back here there was a discussion about the accusative of the nouns not ending in a vowel. Some wondered how it could look like and I am wondering...
4158
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Jan 24, 2001 8:11 pm
... I certainly don't presume to know what David Salo intended, but one possible solution would be that the lost *_-h_ causes a preceding short vowel to ...
4159
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 24, 2001 9:58 pm
... I didn't know that Tolkien wrote Ardalambion? ;-)))) More seriously, the site written by Helge is a *very good* but it is not a _starting point_. It...
4160
Jerome Colburn
jscolbur@...
Jan 25, 2001 8:37 am
... (1) It looks and has always looked to me as if a surface short final vowel is simply lengthened (as a synchronic rule) when the addition of a suffix puts...
4161
Javier Lorenzo
javilm@...
Jan 25, 2001 9:02 am
... wrote ... 60's. And note Mmmm... Excuse me, bur there are six words explicitly marked as PQ in Etymologies: _atuu_, _atar_ (ATA); _maa3_ (MA3); _deer_...
4162
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Jan 25, 2001 12:48 pm
... Obviously, I do not claim that JRRT wrote the Ardalambion or that it enjoys the same authority as JRRT's material. I simply wanted to stress that I'm not...
4163
Didier Willis
didier.willis@...
Jan 25, 2001 10:28 pm
... My feeling is that these "weird" accentuation patterns are perhaps explainable as a matter of stress *only*, without having to introduce etymological...
4164
Didier Willis
didier.willis@...
Jan 25, 2001 10:38 pm
Very quickly: I posted my previous message just before I could read Jerome Colburn's post on the subject. It seems that we arrived at nearly the same...
4165
Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Jan 25, 2001 10:56 pm
Dear Friends, Sorry for this short ad. I want to announce that the new Elvish calendar for the human year 2001 (spring 2001 - stirring 2002) has been printed...
4166
Didier Willis
didier.willis@...
Jan 25, 2001 11:55 pm
In his "Nomenclature of the Lord of the Rings" (in _A Tolkien Compass_), Tolkien wrote on p. 169: Leaflock .... translation of the Elvish _Finglas_: _fing_...
4167
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 26, 2001 12:20 am
... Yes, this was what I meant. A difficult matter indeed, with Tolkien's changing terminolgy. The PQ stage of "Etymogies" is I think = to the CE stage of...
4168
marreseereon@...
Jan 27, 2001 1:28 am
ok My wife and I have been studying Quenya for about 2 weeks now. Together we are learning it quickly. One problem tho....we cannot figure out how to say...
4169
webmaster@...
Jan 27, 2001 9:35 am
I knew Yahoo would become owner of eGroups, but I didn't expect this! I spent over half an hour to 'convert' my acount and to Join this group again. And the...
4170
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 27, 2001 11:54 am
... Have you been reading several on-line Quenya site? This is not a very good start, I'm afraid. By reading just the on-line "Tolkien language stuff" without...
4171
marreseereon@...
Jan 27, 2001 4:40 pm
ok, so if you is to say dwelling instead of home, witch I personally takes away from the fluidity of the Eldar language. My original question is still as yet...
4172
Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
Jan 27, 2001 4:59 pm
... Sorry about that. If there's anything I can do, let me know. When Yahoo acquired eGroups, I considered finding Elfling a new home. When I asked about it on...
4173
Cirk Bejnar
eluchil@...
Jan 27, 2001 8:59 pm
... Not from my point of view. The conversion took me only 30 seconds to do. The re-sign up for people who want Web access is annoying but I think that...
4174
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 27, 2001 9:05 pm
Seeing that more and more people come to this list each day, I would like to propose a step by step learning to help Newbies to get a good gasp of Quenya : 1/...
4175
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 27, 2001 9:16 pm
... <snip> ... The loss of a consonant means that a short wovel was lost too : Old Quenya Mandosto > Quenya Mandos (stem Mandost-). ... I don't see how else to...
4176
Cirk Bejnar
eluchil@...
Jan 27, 2001 9:23 pm
... Well as Edward pointed out the sentece is really quite complex. I would say Lelyalye mardenna. Which means you go to home. It analysis thusly: 'lelya'...
4177
David Grimfors
dgrimfors@...
Jan 27, 2001 11:45 pm
We may not be able to speak entirely correct Quenya, but that do not prevent us from using it as a language. We may use the wrong grammar in some cases. We may...
4178
amanda england
Englandamanda@...
Jan 28, 2001 6:22 am
Is the correct translation of this phrase "Day will come again?" I believe I stumbled across it in The Silmarillian. Thanks, Amanda ...
4179
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 28, 2001 11:29 am
... And you "speak" Quenya whith whom may I ask? :-) _Sei jou iz nonzense what_. Is the obove English? No. I'm sure you will agree. Each language has a...
4180
Ales Bican
bican@...
Jan 28, 2001 11:33 am
... **May you explain me why you think it should be a long /i/? I think that Tolkien wanted to show the final stage after "the shortening and subsequent loss...
4181
Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Jan 28, 2001 12:27 pm
... Not "should be", just "might be" I should have said. Because in Classical Quenya the pl. maker i was long, "lasse" pl. "lassii" (according to the "Dick ...
4182
David Grimfors
dgrimfors@...
Jan 28, 2001 12:47 pm
... Good question. With myself? :) Actually, Quenya is used to represent the elven laguage in Live Action Roleplaying or Interactive Theatre. I´m sure you´ve...
4183
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Jan 28, 2001 1:36 pm
... Neither do I. As far as I can see, it could've occured anytime between the PQ/CE of Etym and Exilic Quenya. However, the Q shares the change with ON/OS,...
4184
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Jan 28, 2001 1:59 pm
... Well, if I heard someone actually say that I'd consider it to be hideously bad English, but that's still English. ... Terminology again, I'm afraid. If X...
4185
Ice Pick
icepick3000@...
Jan 28, 2001 3:44 pm
... Or do as I have done, read Ardalambions excellent Quenya page, get UT, Silm, and just expirament. Produce some sentances, ask for help and see if the ...
