... The relevant sentence in VT #41 reads: "Evidence elsewhere among Tolkien's papers suggests that _ora_, _oorea_, and _orane_ are reflexes of an _a_-stem...
3825
vanlin680@...
Dec 10, 2000 1:22 am
<< I would use "tulle ea" - it is both safer and more appropriate. ("tulle ie" would be rather "came existing") Or maybe "nee ontaina" "was created".>> I was...
3826
David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 10, 2000 1:27 am
... I believe this KWOR is inconsistent with Quenya phonology. There are no attested roots in mature Eldarin showing the sequence -kwo- (or -kwu-), suggesting...
3827
David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 10, 2000 1:27 am
... While this is a reasonable argument, assuming that the words are presented correctly, there is another interpretation; namely, that the first element in...
3828
Cirk Bejnar
eluchil@...
Dec 10, 2000 3:54 am
... Aiya probably works. But why not use ela from WJ:362. It is an "imperative exclamation, directing sight to an actually visible object". And seems...
3829
Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Dec 10, 2000 4:25 pm
... I agree with you, I just thought (on the basis of what you wrote) that the term "resonants" denotes not only these four consonants, but also the REASON why...
3830
Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Dec 10, 2000 4:25 pm
... What about the genitives on -o (alqua, alquo?alco?) ? And the other cases when a final -qua sequence receives an -o ending (masculine -o, -or, e.g?)? And...
3831
Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Dec 10, 2000 4:25 pm
Hello, << I would use "tulle ea" - it is both safer and more appropriate. ("tulle ie" would be rather "came existing") Or maybe "nee ontaina" "was created".>> ...
3832
vanlin680@...
Dec 10, 2000 4:41 pm
<< Please, could you not delete what are you answering on - I have to look it up in the previous letters...>> I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to delete any of...
3833
David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 10, 2000 8:41 pm
... I see. Well, actually the term "resonants" does not explicity refer to the fact that these sounds maybe both syllabic and unsyllabic. It's an inherent ...
3834
Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 10, 2000 9:15 pm
... **Yup, I wrote it and it can be found on my site. But I want everyone to keep in mind that the words are NOT made by Tolkien himself, it is a mere fiction...
3835
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 11, 2000 6:45 pm
David Kiltz wrote ... An OT but related question: Is there any "reason" that these resonants can be syllabic and "stronger"; consonants can't? Is it...
3836
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 11, 2000 6:55 pm
... Eh, excuse me, but what's an "English present perfect"? My English is, I'd like to think, about as good as you can ask of a non-native speaker, but I've...
3837
John Rateliff
sacnoth@...
Dec 11, 2000 7:19 pm
... present perfect: has finished past perfect: had finished future perfect: will have finished basically, it'll use "has" as the auxiliary....
3838
Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 11, 2000 8:38 pm
... **I think the same, I think ju- produced the diphtong _iu-_, I just asked if someone had had another opinion (still it might have been lost, though I do...
3839
vanlin680@...
Dec 11, 2000 9:19 pm
<< I do not agree. In my opinion Quenya perfect is in fact a kind of PRESENT tense - like Greek perfect or English present perfect. But I may be wrong. I would...
3840
Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Dec 12, 2000 4:11 pm
... May be silly, but it seems to me that the stops you cannot pronounce as such - the sound comes out only when you finish their pronunciation and let the air...
3841
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 12, 2000 4:51 pm
... Telerin stage? (If CT is meant to be the language of Teleri after Noldor and Vanyar were gone to Valinor, and not a Telerian dialect of Common Eldarin.) ...
3842
Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 12, 2000 5:14 pm
... OK, I had simlpy never seen the term "present perfect" for this before. For the first two examples the terms we Swedes learn in school are "perfekt" and ...
3843
Dieter Bachmann
dab@...
Dec 12, 2000 7:28 pm
I am trying to translate Canticum 6,9 into Quenya (and, yes, the context is a love letter). I am taking the Vulgata text as a base: quae est ista quae...
3844
Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Dec 12, 2000 9:39 pm
Aiya! I'm curious about the wordlist titled _Quettaparma Quenyanna_ - who is its author? Namaarie! S.Y., Elenhil Laiquendo...
3845
propspixie@...
Dec 12, 2000 11:55 pm
I am looking for a site that will show me what either Evenstar or Undomiel looks like in Elvan. I am considering getting a tattoo of one of these but would...
3846
David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 13, 2000 12:47 am
... I have considered this question already, but I cannot come to any certain conclusion on the basis of available data. Historically, the genitive of alqua...
3847
kiltzd@...
Dec 13, 2000 1:29 am
... AFAIK yes, it is impossible. This being so, I'd say there must be a reason. To put it shortly, it seems to have sth. to do with what is done with the...
3848
kiltzd@...
Dec 13, 2000 1:39 am
... Isn't it actually 6,10 ? ... _sina_ is "this" (neuter = German "dieses"). "She" is _si/se_ (in the Etymologies). However the (hebrew) original has _zot_...
3849
Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 13, 2000 6:28 am
... Thanks for this little ad, Ales! I worry everybody has been fed up with all my recent ads on the Elfling. But I remind you that you can visit my modest ...
3850
Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Dec 13, 2000 10:04 am
... Do you mean English past perfect or pluperfect? ("had done") - then the most suitable would be Latin pluperfect, I think. English present perfect could ...
3851
David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 13, 2000 12:56 pm
... The difference between e.g. /t/ and /s/ you're describing is that /t/ is a occlusive or stop while /s/ is a spirant, a Continuative. However /s/ is not a...
3852
David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 13, 2000 12:56 pm
... The difference between e.g. /t/ and /s/ you're describing is that /t/ is an occlusive or stop while /s/ is a spirant, a continuative. However /s/ is not a...
