... From: Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> ... Correctly. I have never heard it pronounced any way other than /vauel/. Incidentally, there is an English...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Mar 1, 1999 12:44 pm
... Regarding the problem of language change amongst the immortals Elves Tolkien addressed this question in a long and quite important essay : "Dangweth...
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Edward Kloczko
106065.2071@...
Mar 1, 1999 12:44 pm
... That Aldudénie has a typographical error (a misspelling) is out of the question because it is so spelled not only in the 1977 Silmarillion but also in the...
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Josu Gomez
josu@...
Mar 1, 1999 12:44 pm
... [...] ... All that I know is Aldudeenie was composed by Elemmiire of the Vanyar... So, perhaps the word is Vanyarin, and not Noldorin Quenya. I don't know ...
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David Kiltz
mail.uni-muenster.de@...
Mar 1, 1999 12:44 pm
Compounds in Semitic: Strictly speaking there are no compounds in Semitic with very few exceptions. In Akkadian, names (like Sanherib) are written in one word...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Mar 2, 1999 12:58 pm
... Let's apply this idea to the real world. Can you recall the exact sounds you created in an utterance made ten years ago? Five? Just three weeks? I ...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Mar 2, 1999 12:59 pm
... My guess would be that the book in question was "The Language Instinct" by Stephen Pinker, since that is the only place I have seen the term "Mentalese" ...
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Raymond A. Brown
raybrown@...
Mar 2, 1999 12:59 pm
At 11:28 am -0500 28/2/99, Edward Kloczko wrote: [....] ... Pinker is the author - and I forget off hand the name of the book; my son's borrowed my copy. ... ...
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bpj@...
Mar 3, 1999 1:03 pm
... [snipping myself] ... OK, I was a bit unfair to Tolkien: he SAID, in Quendi and Eldar, that the Elves "updated" their memories, so that they remembered old...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 3, 1999 1:03 pm
... to= ... = ... very= ... (and = ... = ... h= ... Home = ... quite ... i= ... the= ... I think you just excluded all psychology from Science :-) But this...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 3, 1999 1:03 pm
... quite ... exchange in ... the ... by ... "Mentalese" ... Grammar. ... just the ... You happen to be wrong. I got it in the atticle "Vi föds som ...
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David Kiltz
mail.uni-muenster.de@...
Mar 4, 1999 12:56 am
Everybody who has studied some Elvish has noticed, that there are words in Elvish, to which there seem to be correspondences in 'real-world' languages. Besides...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:58 am
... in ... languages. ... I'd ... has ... etc. ... in ... * ... that ... goes ... elsewhere ... elvish ... are ... attracted ... drawn ... It has been argueed...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:58 am
From the Ardalambion: "... the Sindarin name of Tom Bombadil was given as Iarwain, meaning "Eldest". The ending -wain would seem to be the superlative suffix....
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Thorwald Peeters
thorkien@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:58 am
<Some elvish welcoming wish> ... Not very elvish, but ever considered the different words for tea? On writing this I (someone with no linguistic knowledge...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:46 pm
... in Elvish, to which there seem to be correspondences in 'real-world' languages. Besides correspondences in individual languages it occurs to me, that...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:46 pm
Thorwald Peeters <thorkien@...> wrote: <Some elvish welcoming wish> ... i.e. a certain meaning goes ... Not very elvish, but ever considered the...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:46 pm
... i.e. a certain meaning goes ... could ... Russian, Dutch and Hindi are all Indo-european languages, that's it, they belong to the same language family....
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Mar 5, 1999 12:47 pm
... A closed syllable is a syllable ending in a consonant (pattern CVC or VC). An open syllable ends in a vowel (pattern CV or V). I wondered whether -wain is...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Mar 6, 1999 3:06 am
... Tea was first cultivated in China. From there the plant and the word for it went all over the world. The word for tea is a typical 'migratory term'. What I...
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Raymond A. Brown
raybrown@...
Mar 6, 1999 3:06 am
At 9:17 am -0800 4/3/99, Andreas Johansson wrote: ... The themes ama/ma/mama are indeed very widespread across the globe and crop up in all sorts of unrelated...
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Raymond A. Brown
raybrown@...
Mar 6, 1999 3:06 am
... All derived from from Mandarin Chinese 'cha2'. Most languages AFAIK derive their words either from the Mandarin or from a southern Chinese form 'te' (I...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
... The Quenya words are along the same line: amil "mother" (*AM+ a feminine ending -il), amme "mama"; but the Sindarin words use a dental root NAN instead:...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
... Well, I'd just like to say that those forms I was referring to are certainly NOT onomatopoetic in any way. It is true -of course- that there has been...
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Raymond A. Brown
raybrown@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
... No. ... Yes indeed - whether the north Chinese 'cha' or southern 'te'. A similar migratory terms are 'coffee' where the original Arabic 'qahwah' has given ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
[snip] ... they ... I think I've seen ammę/ammî mentioned as a loan from Q somewere, but I don't seem to remember the actual Q form. Ammë, perhaps. Andreas ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
... coffee? ... Tolkien did list a word for "tea" in his early "Qenya Lexicon", page 49: _tyé_ (_tyee_). This, presumably, is the source of Mandarin Chinese...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Mar 7, 1999 3:23 am
... 'ammî'/ 'ammę'. I don't recall the Quenya or Sindarin words. Are they known? Yes. Quenya _amil_, _amme_ (stem AM, LR:348; UT:191 also has _mamil_). ...
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Raymond A. Brown
raybrown@...
Mar 7, 1999 7:52 pm
... Thanks. ... In Britain in certain regions, e.g. in anglophone SE Wales and in several English regions, 'nan' is the regular colloquial word for...
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bican@...
Mar 10, 1999 12:58 pm
Hello, can someone give an information about adverbs in Quenya to me? Thank eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/elfling Free Web-based e-mail groups by...
