... I am not sure, but is should not be "haarane"? "i nes" - doubled subject. I would write "i nee" What about "intyanes"; instead of "sanwanes";? ... Do we know...
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Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Nov 26, 2000 8:50 pm
Hello, Boris, ... Please, what do you mean by MT? If you mean the Morgoth's Ring, the chapter "Myths Transformed", I have read it, and been shocked by it. I...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Nov 27, 2000 7:47 pm
I wanted to ask before, but I have not remembered it till now... In WJ:340 in 'Of the Ents and the Eagles' there is written: "There are two amanuensis...
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Gildor Inglorion
gildor@...
Nov 27, 2000 8:54 pm
ales bican wrote... ... well that reminds me of "mahanaxar".. if a word like "anaxartaron" exists, that means that the former word can be analysed as...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
beregond@...
Nov 27, 2000 9:25 pm
... I read _onyalie_ as _onya_ 'child' + _lie_ 'people'. Ents and Eagles are yet another kind of 'child-people', as compared to Elves and Men (Eru's children)...
3739
vanlin680@...
Nov 27, 2000 9:49 pm
<<>Nan sin Iluuvatar harane ar lastane, ar andave sanwanes [1] i nes maara, an ... I am not sure, but is should not be "haarane"? "i nes" - doubled subject. I ...
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Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Nov 27, 2000 9:55 pm
Here is the rest of my suggestions, - some of the words I do not know, these I leave unnoticed. Please remember these are only my opinion. ... "lirnenter": the...
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Boris Shapiro
elenhil@...
Nov 28, 2000 6:57 am
Hello Lukas, ... LN> Please, what do you mean by MT? If you mean the Morgoth's Ring, the chapter LN> "Myths Transformed", Yes. LN> I have read it, and been...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Nov 28, 2000 10:42 am
... Hi Ales, a very interesting question! I always thought that in _onyalie_ the root ONO- "beget, become" was involved. The ET give _onna_ "creature"; and thus...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Nov 28, 2000 10:50 am
... _maahanaxar_ is _maahan_ + axar, where _maahan_ means "authority, authoritive decision" (from Valarin, cf. HoME XI). Maahan (pl. Mahani) was also used for...
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Eleder
josugp@...
Nov 28, 2000 2:21 pm
... This is an ancient discussion. In Dec 1998, Edward Kloczko suggested _onya_ "son" and the plural _lie_ to get the meaning "offspring", and in _Anaxarta_...
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Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Nov 28, 2000 2:51 pm
Ales Bican wrote, ... I think "onyalie" can really be "o-en-yal-ie": but what would that mean? "en-yal-" is "re-call", "-ie" is gerund ending. Can "onyalie"...
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Patricia Carlson
awdree@...
Nov 29, 2000 9:00 am
I Liked what I heard in the Anaxartaron Onyalie letters, that Ents were paired with Eagles. I had supposed them with Eagles though Yavanna's concern for the...
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Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Nov 29, 2000 12:15 pm
RL: Quite right about "haarane." The "i" was a slip for what I guess should be "sa" ("that" as a conjunction) "intyanes"; is good as well, thank you. LN: I am...
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Deniz
denizakhan@...
Nov 29, 2000 7:38 pm
This is something I´ve never understood fully. When you see tengwar writing all around the net, it´s always written from the right to the left. But what´s...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Nov 29, 2000 8:34 pm
... ? Well, maybe you have some "new" edition, but in my edition of LOTR the Sindarin text on the Gate of Moria is written just as this English text and the...
3750
vanlin680@...
Nov 29, 2000 9:34 pm
<> What is a liquid stem? Is it a basic stem as opposed to one ending in -ya or -ta? <> The "quetteparma quenyanna" gives a stem of "tele-"; it says it's from...
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Beregond. Anders Sten...
beregond@...
Nov 29, 2000 10:28 pm
... Idiosyncratic, then. But I have not seen it. ... No, from left to right. Suilad, Beregond...
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mckastro
mckastro@...
Nov 30, 2000 3:52 am
Aiya ilye quenyandilin! 1. May be, this problem is already discussed somewhere, but - how to express "or" in Quenya? a) The first thought appearing in a head...
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Andrew Durdin
andy@...
Nov 30, 2000 5:39 am
... "Note 15 "A simple agental formation (like /*abaro/ > /*abar/ from *ABA) from the stem *TELE, the primary sense of which appears to have been 'close, end, ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Nov 30, 2000 1:03 pm
... Maybe Deniz you have been using a translation of LOTR? In one of the Polish edition of LOTR I own (published by Czytelnik/CiA Books/Savaro) the ring ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Nov 30, 2000 1:03 pm
... There is *no* etymological connection between the ending -ar (as seen in Eldar) and the word _ar_ "and". ... Never heard that Quenya was Arabic. Quenya is...
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Lukas Novak
profesorr@...
Nov 30, 2000 5:25 pm
... It was a shorthand for a stem ending on a liquid consonant - these are (in a wider sense) l,r,m,n. These stems allow adding -na instead of -ina, according...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Nov 30, 2000 6:03 pm
Aiya ilquen! ... Polish ... ring ... That's true. Untill 1996 in the Polish LotR every tengwar insription had some defects. Edouard writes about them above....
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Nov 30, 2000 6:07 pm
... "real" language. But that _Quenya_ is not "Tolkien's Q(u)enya" it is a pidgin. Yes, we should always remember that there is a deep gap between real ...
3759
johanlundqvist@...
Nov 30, 2000 8:01 pm
Hello, i'm new to this group and i has not learned so much sindarin or quenia. Is there someone that can translate my name into sindarin, my name is Johan and...
3760
vanlin680@...
Nov 30, 2000 8:50 pm
I'm not aware of any Quenya word that translates precisely to "merciful"; or "mercy"; the closest I think is "failo" = "generous";. "Eru" is God. So perhaps...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Nov 30, 2000 9:49 pm
... **Seems a bit strange to me. Pa. t. of _har-_ would be _harne_ or ever maybe _haare_, but very likely not _haarane_. _har-_ is of the same pattern as...
3762
vanlin680@...
Nov 30, 2000 11:38 pm
... I thought the verb was _hara-_. I'm not sure, though. ... I assume you meant _uuner_; I agree. Why use _ea_, though? I thought this should only be used...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 1, 2000 11:04 am
... Maxim, I'm afraid I can't help you out with the translation of Q. "or" either. It wd be nice if we knew of some "disjunctiv" element in Q. However "or" is ...
