... Maxim, I'm afraid I can't help you out with the translation of Q. "or" either. It wd be nice if we knew of some "disjunctiv" element in Q. However "or" is ...
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Richard F. Smit
r.f.smit@...
Dec 1, 2000 4:44 pm
... This is something that's been bugging me for a while. I get the impression that JRRT meant Quenya to be a Latin of the Elves - hence the term "Elf Latin"....
3765
vanlin680@...
Dec 1, 2000 7:47 pm
Regarding the comparative, I just had a thought: what do you think about using _pella_ = "beyond"? E.g., " . . . alta noo pella . . ." = " great beyond [what...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 1, 2000 9:41 pm
... pella means lit. "beyond the border(s) of" as "I went beyond the borders of the US" => e.g. "I was abroad" but pella was translated in English as "beyond" ...
3767
Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 2, 2000 12:15 am
**Yes, there is a lot of people who actually use Quenya for writing, mainly poems. And why do they (yes, I am one of them) do? I think it is quite enjoyable...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 2, 2000 9:21 am
Dear Friends, If you want to see a new list of Tolkien's resources found in the periodicals (like "Vinyar Tengwar", "Parma Eldalamberon", etc) see my ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:30 am
... Sure it could be nice if everybody, including me and you, knew how to use/speak/write Quenya. It looks as if you thought that Tolkien's Elven languages...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:39 am
... 1. I'd like to know that too ! 2. If I remember correctly that's Westron (or its precursor), it's translated "Common Speech" (again, if my memory doesn't...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:52 am
... Well, AFAIK there's no comparative attested. There is superlative (or rather elative) prefix _an-_ as in _ancalima_ "exceedingly bright, brightest". ...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 2, 2000 11:58 am
... To be frank -I don't think so-. There are a lot of elements in Q. which are quite un-Latin. Also it can be gathered from J.R.R.T.'s writings that the ...
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David Kiltz
kiltzd@...
Dec 2, 2000 12:21 pm
... I wanted to have another look at it, but cdn't find it ! Messages 2673 and 2674 seem to have been removed from the archive, the relevant message apparently...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 2, 2000 10:50 pm
... The correct spelling is "Hwenti", not _Hvendi_. As EJK says, it's found in WJ along with some other Avarin derivatives of PQ _kwendî_ "elves". But the ...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 3, 2000 12:25 am
Those who use Quenya decline its nouns as in the so called "Dick Plotz declension chart" which was published many years ago. But other cases could be used as...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 3, 2000 9:37 am
... <snip> ... There is also from this same woodland Elvish the word lęg "green" as in Leg(g)olas. Tolkien wrote _lęg_ not _leg_ as published in Letters. I...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 3, 2000 1:56 pm
Someone on this list asked if anyone has been teaching Elvish (or maybe "how to teach"? I don’t remember, sorry.) I will be giving Quenya lessons on...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 3, 2000 2:20 pm
... An interesting idea but I cannot agree with it. I think Tolkien had in mind something different from the language-structure when writing about Quenya as ...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 3, 2000 2:20 pm
... As the so called 'poet' [not possessing any poetic talents I shouldn't use this term] in Quenya and Sindarin I also have to 're-construct' many forms [for...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 3, 2000 2:20 pm
... In my opinion the Telerin initial _i-_ must have been pronounced as [ j- ] - like in Sindarin: CE *_julmá_ 'drinking-vessel' > CT *_julma_ > T *_iulma_; ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 3, 2000 6:16 pm
... I was under the impression that that this _leg_/_lęg_ and _Legolas_ represented a dialectal form of Sindarin, spoken in Thranduil's realm. Does JRRT state...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 3, 2000 8:28 pm
... What's this _Mork_ I keep hearing about? Who spoke it and where is it mentioned in the sources? Andreas ...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 3, 2000 9:27 pm
... **There is _haarar_ in CO and Tolkien translated it as "are sitting". According to what we know _haara_ is the present continuative, the aorist would be...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 3, 2000 9:27 pm
... **Some use _var_ "or" attested in the early Qenya Lexicon, which might be invalid. The others use *_ecar_ back-formed from Sindarin _egor_ "or", which...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Dec 3, 2000 9:27 pm
... **I think we know, at least, about Quenya relatively enough to write something meaningful, even when we would not use any newly made up words. It is, of...
3786
InnoccentXlll@...
Dec 3, 2000 11:10 pm
Hey Can you people stop sending me all this Usless Laugauge stuff?...
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Edward J. Kloczko
ejk@...
Dec 3, 2000 11:19 pm
... Hey can you stop this Usless talk? ;-))) EJK PS Try the magic word "unsubscribe". :-)...
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Andrew Durdin
andy@...
Dec 4, 2000 6:21 am
Hello, I'm trying to translate the phrase "May Eru watch over your paths" into Quenya; but I'm a bit unsure how some of it should go. I currently have, "Nai...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 4, 2000 8:06 pm
... mentioned in the sources? _Mork_ is mentioned by Lisa Star, an editor of a very good periodical "Tyalie Tyelelliéva", in her two articles "Lege Artis"...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 4, 2000 8:06 pm
... Library ... I would like to be there... But Poland is so far... Maybe you could write a bit more about the teaching methods? Do you use any tests,...
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Ryszard Derdzinski
galadhorn@...
Dec 4, 2000 8:06 pm
... My knowledge of Quenya is rather poor, but in my opinion your sentence should be translated as: _Nai Eru tiruva tielyannar_ [_nai tiruva_ 'may (he) will...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Dec 4, 2000 8:49 pm
Ales Bican wrote ... [snip] ... Seems like Edouard Kloczko and I jump a bit to quickly to the "simple misspelling" conclusion. Approximately when would JRRT...
